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Tory Government missed MISSED THREE CHANCES to join EU scheme to bulk-buy PPE

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... lk-buy-ppe

Just goes to prove that tw*t Hancock and Priti (disgusting) Patel have been lying.

If they don't get sacked, it will only prove what a spineless creature Boris Johnson truly is.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:13 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:42 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:11 pm

$64000 Question. The scientist that I heard today said likely to be based on age groups at lowest risks so probably under 40's with no underlying health issues first and then track transmission for a few weeks to see if it spreads again, If it is containable them 40-60 age group with no UHI's and track again. If this does not work it could be 3 months in every 4 in lockdown until a vaccine is available.

I think those of us in the older age group of 60+ with UHI's will be isolating until a vaccine is available.

Oxford University have said there is 80% chance of a Vaccine being avaialable in September but scaling up the number of doses needed, Distribution and administering them would take some time.

We can’t even organise masks, gowns and tests (unless you are in the Tory government or related to someone who is) for essential workers.

What confidence can we have that these clowns can sort out a vaccine system in 2020?

The scientific Group at Oxford University are part funded by the UK Goverment but are independent in what they do, They are already starting clinical trials.

But they are still funded (!) by the government though so my point stands.

Anyone else catch Macron's speech yesterday?

To paraphrase: "Supply chains will have to become more French..." Quite a statement from a neoliberalist.

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:40 am Anyone else catch Macron's speech yesterday?

To paraphrase: "Supply chains will have to become more French..." Quite a statement from a neoliberalist.

Gutsy and honest.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:08 pm So is it a case that they are not able to keep much stocks because of budgets?

It’s lack of availability. My wife is a buyer for a big import company and she has been given an instruction to source hundreds of thousands of surgical masks from public health England. She is using every contact she has in China and just can’t get them. Well, she can get them but a) they are expensive and b) China is changing the shipping rules, costs, taxes etc just about every day making it impossible to get them out.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:47 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:08 pm So is it a case that they are not able to keep much stocks because of budgets?

It’s lack of availability. My wife is a buyer for a big import company and she has been given an instruction to source hundreds of thousands of surgical masks from public health England. She is using every contact she has in China and just can’t get them. Well, she can get them but a) they are expensive and b) China is changing the shipping rules, costs, taxes etc just about every day making it impossible to get them out.

Hardly surprising that demand is outstripping supply at present which is why the government f*cked up by leaving it too late, again.

Would government usually buy supplies for the NHS?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:53 am Would government usually buy supplies for the NHS?

This covers it off. We could have taken part in the EU wide bulk buy procedure but "we didn't get the email"..........

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... lk-buy-ppe

Trump gone full trump https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... test-media

The only saving grace we have - as awful as Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson and his family are, they are not Donald and the Trumps.

BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:50 am

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:47 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:08 pm So is it a case that they are not able to keep much stocks because of budgets?

It’s lack of availability. My wife is a buyer for a big import company and she has been given an instruction to source hundreds of thousands of surgical masks from public health England. She is using every contact she has in China and just can’t get them. Well, she can get them but a) they are expensive and b) China is changing the shipping rules, costs, taxes etc just about every day making it impossible to get them out.

Hardly surprising that demand is outstripping supply at present which is why the government f*cked up by leaving it too late, again.

Especially when you see that
Ireland sent a plane direct to china ro
Buy millions of euros worth on the 27 th
Of March

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irisht ... 3fmode=amp

Beradogs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:47 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:08 pm So is it a case that they are not able to keep much stocks because of budgets?

It’s lack of availability. My wife is a buyer for a big import company and she has been given an instruction to source hundreds of thousands of surgical masks from public health England. She is using every contact she has in China and just can’t get them. Well, she can get them but a) they are expensive and b) China is changing the shipping rules, costs, taxes etc just about every day making it impossible to get them out.

My Wife has asked whether you could provide the name of your Wife's import company please?

You can PM me if you prefer.

Many thanks.

778 deaths recorded in the last 24 hours

8-Apr-20 9-Apr-20 10-Apr-20 11-Apr-20 12-Apr-20 13-Apr-20
750 636 579 575 437 122

9th April figure looks promising, we may have peaked on the 8th.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:38 pm
Used to be 75% Irish nurses

Most of them retired or went to the states.

Many were found in O'Neills in Leytonstone on most Friday / Saturday nights back in the mid - late 90s. Don't ask me how I know this.

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:06 am . But apart from that he's definitely right. As for Beatrice, it really has been too long since her old.man has made an appearance and watching him dressed to the nines to walk her down the aisle while knowing I've contributed to it will certainly give me a warm glow.

Preferably followed by a couple of lads from the relevant authorities ready to ask him some questions.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:13 pm 778 deaths recorded in the last 24 hours

Reckon its gonna be a massive number tomorrow.

Admin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:25 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:38 pm
Used to be 75% Irish nurses

Most of them retired or went to the states.

Many were found in O'Neills in Leytonstone on most Friday / Saturday nights back in the mid - late 90s. Don't ask me how I know this.

I'll tell you how ....

Because they closed the Nurses rec down in the Hospital grounds .
Now theyd start in the plough on leytonstone high road & then all piled
back to the rec bar for 10.30 & didnt stumble out until 2
with some poor fella as the nights victim .

The nurses accomadation at the back is all boarded up now , but many escaped
through windows there , not.because they were unhappy at the situation , but because security would.clock you on the way out & if you wanted in again the next weekend it was best to avoid them.

Dont ask me know how i know any of this ,
lets just say what happens in vegas stays in vegas

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:30 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:13 pm 778 deaths recorded in the last 24 hours

Reckon its gonna be a massive number tomorrow.

Based on what AW ?

Number of daily infections seems to be flatenening out over the few days and numbers in hospital have fallen slightly since yesterday, these are the first two areas that you would expect to see improve followed by the number in Intensive Care and then Deaths, maybe showing very early signs of the peak being reached. hopefully deaths will start to decrease early next week .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:04 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:25 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:38 pm
Used to be 75% Irish nurses

Most of them retired or went to the states.

Many were found in O'Neills in Leytonstone on most Friday / Saturday nights back in the mid - late 90s. Don't ask me how I know this.

I'll tell you how ....

Because they closed the Nurses rec down in the Hospital grounds .
Now theyd start in the plough on leytonstone high road & then all piled
back to the rec bar for 10.30 & didnt stumble out until 2
with some poor fella as the nights victim .

The nurses accomadation at the back is all boarded up now , but many escaped
through windows there , not.because they were unhappy at the situation , but because security would.clock you on the way out & if you wanted in again the next weekend it was best to avoid them.

Dont ask me know how i know any of this ,
lets just say what happens in vegas stays in vegas

Had many a similar Friday/Saturday night in the Hospital Tavern opposite the London Hospital - Some of those Irish nurses could really let their hair down

I'd guess the bank holiday will be counted over the next couple of days. Admissions have flattened thankfully but that's not a reduction in the number of people in hospital, just the rate that they are coming in at isn't getting any faster. A couple of people I know died over the weekend and several more waiting for tests, thankfully so far none of the individual cases have turned into an outbreak in any of the care homes they lived in. Almost all our places are smallish houses rather than big care homes but that is the real fear.

On the plus side we have some access to testing now, if people can drive themselves or find a household member to with a car to get them to Ikea in Wembley. I don't suppose it's crossed Hancock's mind that the wages paid to people in caring roles means that quite a lot of them can't afford to own a car..

"Admissions have flattened thankfully but that's not a reduction in the number of people in hospital, just the rate that they are coming in at isn't getting any faster" - Down 2% since yesterday, but we need to see a downward trend over a few days to be sure that we have reached a peak.

Sorry you are experiencing deaths among people you know these are tough times.

FAO Thor

My mate who was taken to hospital
Was sent home again 3 hours later .

Hospital said that that was the worst point for him &
they reckon he will now recover .

Strange disease how it affects different people .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:04 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:25 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:38 pm
Used to be 75% Irish nurses

Most of them retired or went to the states.

Many were found in O'Neills in Leytonstone on most Friday / Saturday nights back in the mid - late 90s. Don't ask me how I know this.

I'll tell you how ....

Because they closed the Nurses rec down in the Hospital grounds .
Now theyd start in the plough on leytonstone high road & then all piled
back to the rec bar for 10.30 & didnt stumble out until 2
with some poor fella as the nights victim .

The nurses accomadation at the back is all boarded up now , but many escaped
through windows there , not.because they were unhappy at the situation , but because security would.clock you on the way out & if you wanted in again the next weekend it was best to avoid them.

Dont ask me know how i know any of this ,
lets just say what happens in vegas stays in vegas

Pretty much it. I've suffered worst victimisation though so it wasn't all bad.