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Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:24 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:13 am
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:35 pm
Starmer smashes PMQs again, Boris clearly a better performer than Raab but great to see them being held to account for once
Such a breath of fresh air to have a strong opposition leader and a functioning opposition again
How are the opinion polls looking for this functioning opposition?
Approval ratings for the leadership have gone from minus 54 in the last poll under Corbyn to plus 50 under Keir
It's so refreshing that the grown ups are leading the party again
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am
by Max B Gold
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:24 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:13 am
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:35 pm
Starmer smashes PMQs again, Boris clearly a better performer than Raab but great to see them being held to account for once
Such a breath of fresh air to have a strong opposition leader and a functioning opposition again
How are the opinion polls looking for this functioning opposition?
Approval ratings for the leadership have gone from minus 54 in the last poll under Corbyn to plus 50 under Keir
It's so refreshing that the grown ups are leading the party again
A deflection for an answer. I'm assuming the party he leads is storming ahead in the polls.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:49 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:24 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:13 am
How are the opinion polls looking for this functioning opposition?
Approval ratings for the leadership have gone from minus 54 in the last poll under Corbyn to plus 50 under Keir
It's so refreshing that the grown ups are leading the party again
A deflection for an answer. I'm assuming the party he leads is storming ahead in the polls.
Then you're an idiot, of course they're not
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:52 am
by Max B Gold
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:49 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:24 am
Approval ratings for the leadership have gone from minus 54 in the last poll under Corbyn to plus 50 under Keir
It's so refreshing that the grown ups are leading the party again
A deflection for an answer. I'm assuming the party he leads is storming ahead in the polls.
Then you're an idiot, of course they're not
I can therefore only conclude that he can't be much of a leader and that all we are hearing is hype.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:57 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:52 am
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:49 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am
A deflection for an answer. I'm assuming the party he leads is storming ahead in the polls.
Then you're an idiot, of course they're not
I can therefore only conclude that he can't be much of a leader and that all we are hearing is hype.
I can therefore only conclude that you think Boris is a great leader
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:24 pm
by Max B Gold
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:57 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:52 am
I can therefore only conclude that he can't be much of a leader and that all we are hearing is hype.
I can therefore only conclude that you think Boris is a great leader
Then you sir are a wrong concluder.
Starmer should be steaming into the Tories arms flailing like a tattie howker because lives are at stake.
His lawyerly approach isn't political and it's not working.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:22 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:24 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:57 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:52 am
I can therefore only conclude that he can't be much of a leader and that all we are hearing is hype.
I can therefore only conclude that you think Boris is a great leader
Then you sir are a wrong concluder.
Starmer should be steaming into the Tories arms flailing like a tattie howker because lives are at stake.
His lawyerly approach isn't political and it's not working.
He's playing 3D chess, come across as statesmanlike on the telly.
Meanwhile he lets charismatic articulate shitposters like NuneatonOs do his dirty work against his enemies where it matters on message boards where votes are decided
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:05 pm
by Max B Gold
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:22 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:24 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:57 am
I can therefore only conclude that you think Boris is a great leader
Then you sir are a wrong concluder.
Starmer should be steaming into the Tories arms flailing like a tattie howker because lives are at stake.
His lawyerly approach isn't political and it's not working.
He's playing 3D chess, come across as statesmanlike on the telly.
Meanwhile he lets charismatic articulate shitposters like NuneatonOs do his dirty work against his enemies where it matters on message boards where votes are decided
It is possible to be statemanlike AND land political punches. Is it not?
If only he was funnier.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:53 pm
by Dunners
Labour members are not happy following Starmer's meeting with Labour Friends of India. He has repositioned Labour on the India/Pakistan/Kashmir issue, and said:
"We must not allow issues of the sub-continent to divide communities here. Any constitutional issues in India are a matter for the Indian Parliament, & Kashmir is a bilateral issue for India and Pakistan to resolve peacefully."
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:36 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
It's a fringe issue though so I don't expect Labour members to make a big deal of it
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:03 pm
by Max B Gold
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:36 pm
It's a fringe issue though so I don't expect Labour members to make a big deal of it
Which side are you cheering for?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:28 pm
by Mikero
After all the complaints about what the nasty right wing Labour MPs did to the last leader we now see the the self-same attempts being made to undermine the new leader, its as if some people don't want Labour to be electable.
Mikero
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:01 pm
by Max B Gold
Mikero wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:28 pm
After all the complaints about what the nasty right wing Labour MPs did to the last leader we now see the the self-same attempts being made to undermine the new leader, its as if some people don't want Labour to be electable.
Mikero
Thats a false comparison. The leftists are moaning and being critical but they are not undermining the leader on anything like the same scale as the red Tories.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:38 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:53 pm
Labour members are not happy following Starmer's meeting with Labour Friends of India. He has repositioned Labour on the India/Pakistan/Kashmir issue, and said:
"We must not allow issues of the sub-continent to divide communities here. Any constitutional issues in India are a matter for the Indian Parliament, & Kashmir is a bilateral issue for India and Pakistan to resolve peacefully."
Link attached
https://labourlist.org/2020/04/keir-sta ... k6OCGD8_LY
Sir Kier beginning to show his true colours already. And they appear to be blueish. Who would have thought it?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:12 pm
by Dunners
Blue Labour certainly have their man.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:18 pm
by Dunners
"Labour should not shy away from patriotism, says Starmer"
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/apr/3 ... ys-starmer
Heh, he's just trolling Momentum now, isn't he?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:14 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
‘120 people from Bury tuned in’.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:18 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Speaking of Zoom calls, Abbott and a fellow crank MP have been sharing platforms with high profile ex members expelled for racism.
Must be such a relief for her and the cranks to not have to pretend anymore
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:49 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:18 pm
Speaking of Zoom calls, Abbott and a fellow crank MP have been sharing platforms with high profile ex members expelled for racism.
Must be such a relief for her and the cranks to not have to pretend anymore
They’re serious with this ‘sharing a platform’ thing ain’t they? Embarassing.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:13 pm
by Disoriented
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:18 pm
Speaking of Zoom calls, Abbott and a fellow crank MP have been sharing platforms with high profile ex members expelled for racism.
Must be such a relief for her and the cranks to not have to pretend anymore
Oh dear. I suppose that is the centrists fault too, another stitch-up etc.
Time for the old brigade to fade away and let the adults run the Labour Party.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:18 pm
by Max B Gold
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:14 pm
‘120 people from Bury tuned in’.
How many from their former Heartland in Scotland?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:20 pm
by Disoriented
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:18 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:14 pm
‘120 people from Bury tuned in’.
How many from their former Heartland in Scotland?
So many they were PUMPED.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:02 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:13 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:18 pm
Speaking of Zoom calls, Abbott and a fellow crank MP have been sharing platforms with high profile ex members expelled for racism.
Must be such a relief for her and the cranks to not have to pretend anymore
Oh dear. I suppose that is the centrists fault too, another stitch-up etc.
Time for the old brigade to fade away and let the adults run the Labour Party.
Lot easier to establish who you are ‘sharing a platform with’ (ie who is in the audience) when there’s only 120 of you, I guess.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 1:01 am
by Max B Gold
Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:20 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:18 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:14 pm
‘120 people from Bury tuned in’.
How many from their former Heartland in Scotland?
So many they were PUMPED.
But Sirkak is appealing to "Patriots".
Not many in Scotchland. Can't speak for the Englanders. This is not going to end well for socialists.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri May 01, 2020 7:22 am
by Currywurst and Chips
RedO wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 12:02 am
Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:13 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:18 pm
Speaking of Zoom calls, Abbott and a fellow crank MP have been sharing platforms with high profile ex members expelled for racism.
Must be such a relief for her and the cranks to not have to pretend anymore
Oh dear. I suppose that is the centrists fault too, another stitch-up etc.
Time for the old brigade to fade away and let the adults run the Labour Party.
Lot easier to establish who you are ‘sharing a platform with’ (ie who is in the audience) when there’s only 120 of you, I guess.
Or 12 for that matter and 2 of them are high profile expulsions
