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Good news for the planet though no?

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:53 pm

OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:19 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:03 pm Maybe they need some Irish immigrants?

China doesn't do immigration. They seem to prefer genocide.

Anyway - their own population is on course to be roughly half the size it is today by the end of this century.

Those estimates are now accepted as outdated. Based on the UNs revised figures, their population could reduce from 1.4billion to 750million as early as 2050. The last time a human society experienced that level of rapid decline was the Incas.

Accepted by who? The estimate of the decline I shared is already well in excess of what the U.N. themselves have been projecting. I’ve not seen anyone suggest their population will halve in the next 25 years.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:04 pm Good news for the planet though no?

In the long run, although it’s happening too slowly to avert climate change.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:29 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:53 pm

OyinbO wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:19 pm

China doesn't do immigration. They seem to prefer genocide.

Anyway - their own population is on course to be roughly half the size it is today by the end of this century.

Those estimates are now accepted as outdated. Based on the UNs revised figures, their population could reduce from 1.4billion to 750million as early as 2050. The last time a human society experienced that level of rapid decline was the Incas.

Accepted by who? The estimate of the decline I shared is already well in excess of what the U.N. themselves have been projecting. I’ve not seen anyone suggest their population will halve in the next 25 years.

Apologies - "Accepted" was a wrong choice of phrase. Reported and forecast would be more accurate. I'll try and dig out the report I saw which, IIRC, essentially summarised that demographic data out of China was unreliable, they are now issuing 'corrections' which downwardly adjust by the tens of millions (mainly females too), and the trend of these corrections (if to continue and be accurate) indicated that an almost halving of the population could occur at or around 2050.

Here's a recent Reuters article setting out that recent UN predictions are for China's population to shrink by 109milion by 2050, and that the population aged 60 and over reached 296.97 million in 2023, about 21.1% of its total population. Obviously not as dramatic as losing 650million, but still beyond anything experienced in living memory and is going to have massive implications.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chi ... 024-01-17/

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:20 am I'll try and dig out the report I saw which, IIRC, essentially summarised that demographic data out of China was unreliable, they are now issuing 'corrections' which downwardly adjust by the tens of millions (mainly females too), and the trend of these corrections (if to continue and be accurate) indicated that an almost halving of the population could occur at or around 2050.

Thank you. I'd be very interested to see it.

Blimey. Ireland picking sides against the current US position and backing an totalitarian state with imperial and expansionist intentions.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It even has the potential to cause a bigger ripple than Ted Crilly putting that lampshade on his head. Also, does this end Ireland's claim to neutrality?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... anned-drug

Swimmers were doped, but got away with it.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:35 pm https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/ ... anned-drug

Swimmers were doped, but got away with it.

Who would have thought it!

It is hard to trust any Olympic sports anymore.

Who could have seen that coming? Other than the court








https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a3c7 ... 220b7d7131

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:00 pm Who could have seen that coming? Other than the court








https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a3c7 ... 220b7d7131

My first thought was. It's Mossad, but that can't be right. Why would they meddle in murky underhand assassinations other than in the DRC or USA? Plus they're really busy at the moment pinpointing the whereabouts of dissenting Jews in Israel.

So then I thought MI5, but why would they murder anyone if its illegal. Can't be them.

I ran out of suspects at that point and then it came to me. What if the geeza did himself in without the help of China. Weird.

I think that’s pretty obvious to everyone but the court who bailed him

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 10:35 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 9:00 pm Who could have seen that coming? Other than the court








https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a3c7 ... 220b7d7131

My first thought was. It's Mossad, but that can't be right. Why would they meddle in murky underhand assassinations other than in the DRC or USA? Plus they're really busy at the moment pinpointing the whereabouts of dissenting Jews in Israel.

So then I thought MI5, but why would they murder anyone if its illegal. Can't be them.

I ran out of suspects at that point and then it came to me. What if the geeza did himself in without the help of China. Weird.

Rumour Has it Johnson & Corbyn visited him

Starmer wants closer ties between the UK and China

Guess he’s happy for them to take the piss as long as he gets the growth he craves

https://www.ft.com/content/c2fd2a45-bd2 ... e535782bf7

Maybe as a 3rd world country we'll sign up for belt and road.

f*cking worrying

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:46 pm Blimey. Ireland picking sides against the current US position and backing an totalitarian state with imperial and expansionist intentions.

As opposed to siding with an elective dictatorship who are the current holders of the Imperial & Expansionist World Cup.

China has recently landing a rover on the far side of the moon . We couldn't do that . That was demonstrated by one of our rocket engine exploding on the shetland islands Labour has just stopped winter fuel allowance for millions of our pensioners so I thought we were skint . It's us who needs that money , not China . Edit , So many people seem to be against America . How would you prefer a Chinese lead world instead ?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:38 am China has recently landing a rover on the far side of the moon . We couldn't do that . That was demonstrated by one of our rocket engine exploding on the shetland islands Labour has just stopped winter fuel allowance for millions of our pensioners so I thought we were skint . It's us who needs that money , not China . Edit , So many people seem to be against America . How would you prefer a Chinese lead world instead ?

Is that the only other alternative? NOW.

China has said it is “ready for war” with America as it raises defence spending and imposes retaliatory tariffs on US imports.

In a direct threat to Donald Trump, China’s representatives in America said: “If war is what the US wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war or any other type of war, we’re ready to fight until the end.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmd3g2nzqo

Roll on 2027.

faldO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:08 pm China has said it is “ready for war” with America as it raises defence spending and imposes retaliatory tariffs on US imports.

In a direct threat to Donald Trump, China’s representatives in America said: “If war is what the US wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war or any other type of war, we’re ready to fight until the end.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmd3g2nzqo

Roll on 2027.

It actually said that it is ready for any type of war and not ready for war. There is a subtle difference

George M wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 6:28 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:08 pm China has said it is “ready for war” with America as it raises defence spending and imposes retaliatory tariffs on US imports.

In a direct threat to Donald Trump, China’s representatives in America said: “If war is what the US wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war or any other type of war, we’re ready to fight until the end.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmd3g2nzqo

Roll on 2027.

It actually said that it is ready for any type of war and not ready for war. There is a subtle difference

You're right, China said they are ready for any type of war, but war is a type of war and their statement that they are ready for any type of war implies they are ready for war.

China has been subtling its way around the world for years now, expanding their sphere of influence with little regard for the consequences.

With all the cutbacks on foreign aid, China must think all their Christmas, or whatever they have over there, have come at once. There influence will just grow and grow. They will own the world without firing a bullet

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:56 am With all the cutbacks on foreign aid, China must think all their Christmas, or whatever they have over there, have come at once. There influence will just grow and grow. They will own the world without firing a bullet

Who is they?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:15 am

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:56 am With all the cutbacks on foreign aid, China must think all their Christmas, or whatever they have over there, have come at once. There influence will just grow and grow. They will own the world without firing a bullet

Who is they?

China

I’ve come to realise that Tupperware is far more of a threat to the world than china