Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Well thats silly as it'll only stop through education.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:34 pm Well thats silly as it'll only stop through education.

Agreed - which starts with the young. Whereas the ignorant dyed in the wool bigots aren't likely to be swayed by any arguments are they. But making their views and utterances unacceptable, by any means possible, can only be a good thing.

Im not sure the knee really achieves that.

Story of O wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:29 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:21 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:03 am

i clearly showed you someone had broken your mb rules .
Still
not a worry . i only really do it to give you something to do for 5 minutes .

You are misinterpreting the rules. This is why I'm judge and jury on here.

Sounds like a dictatorship

Especially as The point i was making was indeed correct & not intepreted rules wrongly .

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:26 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:23 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:46 pm

Pol Pot
Josef Stalin
John wayne Gacy
Theodore Bundy

Are they allowed in Your Team Croissant ?

Within the laws of the land and the rules of the game.

I believe in individual freedom within that framework. The LV video on the Orient website covers the knee issue. Discussion and decision following his abuse. They will discuss again before the Walsall game and may go back to taking the knee.

Totally correct way of dealing with it. Deciding what they wish to do as a group and according to their views. Freedom in action.

Ah, so now you agree with my earlier post that they were making a point by not taking the knee and will probably revert to taking it vs Walsall. Thanks for confirming that you haven't got a clue what you're waffling on about.

well played Bones

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:41 pm

Story of O wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:29 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:21 am

You are misinterpreting the rules. This is why I'm judge and jury on here.

Sounds like a dictatorship

Especially as The point i was making was indeed correct & not intepreted rules wrongly .

Read them again Einstein.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:44 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:41 pm

Story of O wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:29 am

Sounds like a dictatorship

Especially as The point i was making was indeed correct & not intepreted rules wrongly .

Read them again Einstein.

yup as i thought , i was CORRECT .

" DO NOT post allegations against a person, organisation, company or group without making it clear that your comment is an allegation and do not present it as a fact. When making an allegation, this must be supported by evidence from a reputable source." .

Keep reading

Dont need to
That was the relevant point .

And please stop with the Einstein , He was far from Insane ,
Now Nikola Tesla or Lord Byron maybe !

"If only they would have taken the knee in Germany in the 1930s there wouldn't have had the Holocaust"

Who agrees with this statement ?

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:14 am "If only they would have taken the knee in Germany in the 1930s there wouldn't have had the Holocaust"

Who agrees with this statement ?

Hands up if you agree

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:14 am "If only they would have taken the knee in Germany in the 1930s there wouldn't have had the Holocaust"

Who agrees with this statement ?

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The club should organise an education evening involving black players, staff and anti-racist charities and campaigners can educate to all you willfully ignorant people. We’ll see how much educating you actually want then.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:41 am The club should organise an education evening involving black players, staff and anti-racist charities and campaigners can educate to all you willfully ignorant people. We’ll see how much educating you actually want then.

Are you suggesting racism is only an issue for people who are identified as black?

Seven pages and counting, and still some people are claiming the knee has achieved nothing.

Symbolism is important - that's why some people get so wound up by the knee.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:18 am Seven pages and counting, and still some people are claiming the knee has achieved nothing.

Symbolism is important - that's why some people get so wound up by the knee.

They’re not wound up and they’re not racist but they just think it’s ineffective and a waste of time. (The three seconds it takes out of their Saturday afternoon).

KVN wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:50 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:41 am The club should organise an education evening involving black players, staff and anti-racist charities and campaigners can educate to all you willfully ignorant people. We’ll see how much educating you actually want then.

Are you suggesting racism is only an issue for people who are identified as black?

Biggsy, tell us about how that Nigerian player was discriminated against...... wasn’t his name Scott Kashket?

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:33 am

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:18 am Seven pages and counting, and still some people are claiming the knee has achieved nothing.

Symbolism is important - that's why some people get so wound up by the knee.

They’re not wound up and they’re not racist but they just think it’s ineffective and a waste of time. (The three seconds it takes out of their Saturday afternoon).

Its like a leftie salute.

Our young friend BiggsyMalone should be made aware that Irish, Scottish, Greeks, Turks, Jews and Red Indians can also be discriminated against.

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:33 am

KVN wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:50 am

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:41 am The club should organise an education evening involving black players, staff and anti-racist charities and campaigners can educate to all you willfully ignorant people. We’ll see how much educating you actually want then.

Are you suggesting racism is only an issue for people who are identified as black?

Biggsy, tell us about how that Nigerian player was discriminated against...... wasn’t his name Scott Kashket?

Didnt Oh Tommy Tommy & His mob claim being anti islamic wasnt racism because
Islam isnt RACE .

bigotry
obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction; in particular, prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

"the difficulties of combating prejudice and bigotry"


racism
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

"a programme to combat racism .
Very nearly the same thing but not quite .

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:37 am Our young friend BiggsyMalone should be made aware that Irish, Scottish, Greeks, Turks, Jews and Red Indians can also be discriminated against.

And travellers

..... And travellers.

I hope you're noting this down Biggsy.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:18 am Seven pages and counting, and still some people are claiming the knee has achieved nothing.

Symbolism is important - that's why some people get so wound up by the knee.

It has achieved absolute zero apart from giving the bully boys on the looney left an excuse to press forward with their cancel culture whereby they jump up and down demanding we think their way or not at all

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:48 am ..... And travellers.

I hope you're noting this down Biggsy.

And English? White English??

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:58 am

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:48 am ..... And travellers.

I hope you're noting this down Biggsy.

And English? White English??

Good point Ornchurch, our matchday programme should be written in Patwa