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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:07 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:04 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:55 am Oh God!

I like that, nicely sung with a good message.

Who are those muppets , the Partridge family ?

Catchy song though. Notice that Melanie is at odds with husband Donald. Melania Trump seems to have joined a long line of Republican former first ladies who have come out in support of abortion rights, putting them at odds with their husbands' public views. In a short video clip promoting her forthcoming book, Mrs Trump expressed her support for women's "individual freedom", describing it as an "essential right that all women possess from birth".

I wonder which voting group she’s worried about losing ground with

Protect their crypto investments and legalise weed? f*cking hell.

MAGA!

That's racist.

"forgiveable loans"

Heh

Right out the lobbyist dictionary

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 9:53 am I wonder which voting group she’s worried about losing ground with

I'm very much anti trump, but that is a awful agenda

Looks like her divisive/identity campaign has backfired. Latest polls from CNN and early voting indicates that Harris is in trouble.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:35 pm Looks like her divisive/identity campaign has backfired. Latest polls from CNN and early voting indicates that Harris is in trouble.

Don't worry Jonathan Ashworths electoral cunning will soon turn things around.

Almost like they should’ve acknowledged the Biden problem instead of calling it a conspiracy theory then picked someone less unpopular and more capable

We’re at Trump is Hitler levels of concern

That just comes across as desperate. Desperate shambles.

Trump is going to win, isn’t he? Bad tactic labelling him a facist. Demonstrably true, but his supporters are going to want to defend him. Kamala should stick to the moral high ground, not sink to his tactics. People know he is a louse, but they still champion him. Can somebody explain this to me?

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:26 pm Trump is going to win, isn’t he? Bad tactic labelling him a facist. Demonstrably true, but his supporters are going to want to defend him. Kamala should stick to the moral high ground, not sink to his tactics. People know he is a louse, but they still champion him. Can somebody explain this to me?

If you've got nothing, the politician who's willing to offer you one or more scapegoats and promises to punish them is a more appealing pick than the politician who promises to look after everybody else.

(Should probably point out that I despise him, obviously)

Of course he is going to win . It was nailed on as soon as Harris was “selected “the official Democrat presidential candidate . I’ve seen some of her interviews and she’s completely out of her depth

oxo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:34 pm

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:26 pm Trump is going to win, isn’t he? Bad tactic labelling him a facist. Demonstrably true, but his supporters are going to want to defend him. Kamala should stick to the moral high ground, not sink to his tactics. People know he is a louse, but they still champion him. Can somebody explain this to me?

If you've got nothing, the politician who's willing to offer you one or more scapegoats and promises to punish them is a more appealing pick than the politician who promises to look after everybody else.

(Should probably point out that I despise him, obviously)

In that case then maybe the Democrats should have selected somebody who actually knew what they were talking about. Also her running mate ,Walz with his stolen valour. What an abysmal pair they make

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:38 pm

oxo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:34 pm

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:26 pm Trump is going to win, isn’t he? Bad tactic labelling him a facist. Demonstrably true, but his supporters are going to want to defend him. Kamala should stick to the moral high ground, not sink to his tactics. People know he is a louse, but they still champion him. Can somebody explain this to me?

If you've got nothing, the politician who's willing to offer you one or more scapegoats and promises to punish them is a more appealing pick than the politician who promises to look after everybody else.

(Should probably point out that I despise him, obviously)

In that case then maybe the Democrats should have selected somebody who actually knew what they were talking about. Also her running mate ,Walz with his stolen valour. What an abysmal pair they make

In what case?

Yes, the dems are poor too, but they're not so wildly dangerous.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:35 pm Of course he is going to win . It was nailed on as soon as Harris was “selected “the official Democrat presidential candidate . I’ve seen some of her interviews and she’s completely out of her depth

Well, there you go people, the reddwarf seal of approval. Welcome president Harris

oxo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:34 pm

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:26 pm Trump is going to win, isn’t he? Bad tactic labelling him a facist. Demonstrably true, but his supporters are going to want to defend him. Kamala should stick to the moral high ground, not sink to his tactics. People know he is a louse, but they still champion him. Can somebody explain this to me?

If you've got nothing, the politician who's willing to offer you one or more scapegoats and promises to punish them is a more appealing pick than the politician who promises to look after everybody else.

(Should probably point out that I despise him, obviously)

I can understand the “if you’ve got nothing” argument, but that explains but a portion of Trump’s constituency…

I don't know how you beat Trump really. The thick are determined to vote for him no matter what and there's a lot of them.

Would you judge the UK to be better informed in these matters? He is not popular this side of the pond and Trump-Light Boris was seen off in the main, though of course he does have a sizeable fan base. Not only that, there was plenty of support for Farage and Reform last time around.

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:49 pm

oxo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:34 pm

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:26 pm Trump is going to win, isn’t he? Bad tactic labelling him a facist. Demonstrably true, but his supporters are going to want to defend him. Kamala should stick to the moral high ground, not sink to his tactics. People know he is a louse, but they still champion him. Can somebody explain this to me?

If you've got nothing, the politician who's willing to offer you one or more scapegoats and promises to punish them is a more appealing pick than the politician who promises to look after everybody else.

(Should probably point out that I despise him, obviously)

I can understand the “if you’ve got nothing” argument, but that explains but a portion of Trump’s constituency…

Oh I see.

Well you've got issues like abortion that mean the 'traditional' and often very religious right (which is a far bigger proportion of the USA than the UK) will vote for any republican candidate, however unhinged. Plus wealthy people who don't care who gets crushed under the weight of a collapsing social/economic structure as long as they don't have to pay a penny in extra tax (plenty to spare for political donations/lobbying though, obviously).

I think the “if you’ve got nothing” argument also kind of applies to cultural capital. 'Incel' types and others who feel socially cast aside (Elon Musk fanboys and all that) might also vote for a strongman/bully type, if only to spite the 'normies'.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:38 pm Also her running mate ,Walz with his stolen valour.

What’s this bit about?

oxo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:39 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:38 pm Also her running mate ,Walz with his stolen valour.

What’s this bit about?

See link a couple of post's below

oxo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:08 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:38 pm

oxo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:34 pm

If you've got nothing, the politician who's willing to offer you one or more scapegoats and promises to punish them is a more appealing pick than the politician who promises to look after everybody else.

(Should probably point out that I despise him, obviously)

In that case then maybe the Democrats should have selected somebody who actually knew what they were talking about. Also her running mate ,Walz with his stolen valour. What an abysmal pair they make

In what case?

Yes, the dems are poor too, but they're not so wildly dangerous.

That's a matter of opinion which I don't share .