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Re: Election Watch

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 9:55 pm
by Yanzi Gravy
Proposition Joe wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:29 pm
Yanzi Gravy wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 10:39 am
Dale sounds well balance would make a super future Speaker
Oh no: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ar ... t-comments
That didn’t last then. Wonder if he is going back cap in hand to LBC? Then again, I always thought he would be good on QT or Newsnight

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 7:44 am
by Dunners
I make Harwood spot on here.


Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:03 am
by Hoover Attack
Never had you down as a fan of GB News’ Thomas Hadley Fairfax Harwood…

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:34 am
by Dunners
:shock:


Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:35 am
by FrankOFile
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:34 am :shock:

Amazing how much potential support there is for Labour without the anti-semitic undercurrent.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:36 am
by FrankOFile
Yanzi Gravy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:55 pm
Proposition Joe wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:29 pm
Yanzi Gravy wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm

Dale sounds well balance would make a super future Speaker
Oh no: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ar ... t-comments
That didn’t last then. Wonder if he is going back cap in hand to LBC? Then again, I always thought he would be good on QT or Newsnight
You couldn’t make it up.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:37 am
by Dunners
^ If that poll is even remotely true, my life will become unbearable. I'll end up spending more time dealing with QUANGOs, scrutiny committees, unconscious bias training, diversity awareness courses etc than the day job.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:45 am
by Dunners
With and without tactical voting. Either one is incredible.


Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:55 am
by Proposition Joe
The legions of silent Tories out there will ensure it's not that big a landslide.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:58 am
by Dunners
Proposition Joe wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:55 am The legions of silent Tories out there will ensure it's not that big a landslide.
Yeah, I keep reminding myself of the shy Tory vote. But apparently, an Opinium poll due to be released this evening, will either corroborate the above or suggest things are even worse for the Tories.

It will be entertaining to see how the party reacts. How does Sunak survive until 4 July?

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:19 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:58 am
Proposition Joe wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:55 am The legions of silent Tories out there will ensure it's not that big a landslide.
Yeah, I keep reminding myself of the shy Tory vote. But apparently, an Opinium poll due to be released this evening, will either corroborate the above or suggest things are even worse for the Tories.

It will be entertaining to see how the party reacts. How does Sunak survive until 4 July?
Surely at this point any new leader would do better. I don’t think Jesus himself coming back and leading the tories would win but it would convince enough people to vote Tory that they might have a chance in the election after this

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:24 am
by Dunners
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:19 am
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:58 am
Proposition Joe wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:55 am The legions of silent Tories out there will ensure it's not that big a landslide.
Yeah, I keep reminding myself of the shy Tory vote. But apparently, an Opinium poll due to be released this evening, will either corroborate the above or suggest things are even worse for the Tories.

It will be entertaining to see how the party reacts. How does Sunak survive until 4 July?
Surely at this point any new leader would do better. I don’t think Jesus himself coming back and leading the tories would win but it would convince enough people to vote Tory that they might have a chance in the election after this
I agree. But who would want to take over at this point? Anyone with serious longer term ambitions would be better off waiting until after the election so that they're not forever associated with what could be their most humiliating defeat ever.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 10:07 am
by Proposition Joe
Give it Allardyce til the end of the season.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 10:33 am
by Currywurst and Chips
That MRP is incredible and way way ahead of what Labour could even dream of earlier in the week

Letting Abbot stand in Hackney has been a game changing master stroke by the NEC

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 10:35 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:24 am
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:19 am
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:58 am

Yeah, I keep reminding myself of the shy Tory vote. But apparently, an Opinium poll due to be released this evening, will either corroborate the above or suggest things are even worse for the Tories.

It will be entertaining to see how the party reacts. How does Sunak survive until 4 July?
Surely at this point any new leader would do better. I don’t think Jesus himself coming back and leading the tories would win but it would convince enough people to vote Tory that they might have a chance in the election after this
I agree. But who would want to take over at this point? Anyone with serious longer term ambitions would be better off waiting until after the election so that they're not forever associated with what could be their most humiliating defeat ever.
The risk with that is, they may not have a seat any more

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:09 pm
by Dunners
A big year for democracy. And the ANC has finally lost its majority in the South African elections.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:08 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Proposition Joe wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 10:07 am Give it Allardyce til the end of the season.
The BMLC (British managers lunch club) wing of the Tory party.

Moneymoneymoneymoney

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:40 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:09 pm A big year for democracy. And the ANC has finally lost its majority in the South African elections.
My old comrade Nimrod Sejake predicted as much some 40 years ago. He would take no comfort from his prophecy coming true but will be turning in his grave.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:48 pm
by BoniO
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:24 am
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 9:19 am
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:58 am

Yeah, I keep reminding myself of the shy Tory vote. But apparently, an Opinium poll due to be released this evening, will either corroborate the above or suggest things are even worse for the Tories.

It will be entertaining to see how the party reacts. How does Sunak survive until 4 July?
Surely at this point any new leader would do better. I don’t think Jesus himself coming back and leading the tories would win but it would convince enough people to vote Tory that they might have a chance in the election after this
I agree. But who would want to take over at this point? Anyone with serious longer term ambitions would be better off waiting until after the election so that they're not forever associated with what could be their most humiliating defeat ever.
But how pathetic is it to blame their position on Sunak alone and put to one side just how utterly terrible and corrupt this last 14 years has been. I know the British public has typically got the memory of a goldfish but I doubt that the electorate will completely forget the feck ups.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:10 am
by FrankOFile
Proposition Joe wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:55 am The legions of silent Tories out there will ensure it's not that big a landslide.
Yes and the far-left Corbynista Tories too.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:00 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:58 am But apparently, an Opinium poll due to be released this evening, will either corroborate the above or suggest things are even worse for the Tories.
Said poll


Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:02 am
by Currywurst and Chips
In short - They’re fu*ked

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:28 am
by BoniO
I sincerely hope so.

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:10 pm
by Dunners
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:00 am
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:58 am But apparently, an Opinium poll due to be released this evening, will either corroborate the above or suggest things are even worse for the Tories.
Said poll

Indeed. Clearly Starmer's handling of Abbott et al has been a "disaster."

Re: Election Watch

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:21 pm
by Max B Gold
Dunners wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:10 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 11:00 am
Dunners wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:58 am But apparently, an Opinium poll due to be released this evening, will either corroborate the above or suggest things are even worse for the Tories.
Said poll

Indeed. Clearly Starmer's handling of Abbott et al has been a "disaster."
Probably a reaction to Starmer caving in to Abbots demands. Voters like a leader who listens to the people and who is big enough to change their mind when they get things so badly wrong.