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Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:19 am
by Sid Bishop
ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:56 pm
I thought someone on here said Vigs was getting 12.5k a week.
If Burnley are paying him 30-40k a week thst would be mind boggling
Who knows how much he is getting, I mean Burnley are not a mega rich club and could well go straight back to the Championship after just the one season in the Premier.
As to ''I thought someone on here said Vigs was getting 12.5k a week''
Yes sounds to me like a good guess, but it is after all ''Just a guess'' !!
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:27 am
by spen666
Too many people looking at this from their own view point.
All that matters is whether Vigs is happy with the move. If he is happy to earn a shed load more money at Burnley and rarely play a game, then that is his choice. Who are we to decide he should earn less money and play more.
I'd be quite happy to have my salary increased and to have my workload greatly reduced. Most of us would be happy with that.
Steve Harper, a fine goalkeeper spent nearly all his career at Newcastle playing second fiddle to Pavel and then to Given. He could easily have moved elsewhere and played regular football, but he chose what was best for him and his family.
Fans tend to look at things through the viewpoint of a fan and forget that players are human beings and will make career choices as such and not as fans
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:47 am
by OyinbO
Really, the most important issue here is how the sport can be so unequal that a team just two divisions above us can afford to pay him more than double what we offered just as a punt
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:56 am
by The Reverend
spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:27 am
Too many people looking at this from their own view point.
All that matters is whether Vigs is happy with the move. If he is happy to earn a shed load more money at Burnley and rarely play a game, then that is his choice. Who are we to decide he should earn less money and play more.
I'd be quite happy to have my salary increased and to have my workload greatly reduced. Most of us would be happy with that.
Steve Harper, a fine goalkeeper spent nearly all his career at Newcastle playing second fiddle to Pavel and then to Given. He could easily have moved elsewhere and played regular football, but he chose what was best for him and his family.
Fans tend to look at things through the viewpoint of a fan and forget that players are human beings and will make career choices as such and not as fans
Basically everybody on this thread has acknowledged that financially it makes sense for him to do it and understand why he has.
Comparing the “workload” of a professional footballer to whatever tedious desk job you presumably do is such a false equivalence its hilarious.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:02 am
by spen666
The Reverend wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:56 am
spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:27 am
Too many people looking at this from their own view point.
All that matters is whether Vigs is happy with the move. If he is happy to earn a shed load more money at Burnley and rarely play a game, then that is his choice. Who are we to decide he should earn less money and play more.
I'd be quite happy to have my salary increased and to have my workload greatly reduced. Most of us would be happy with that.
Steve Harper, a fine goalkeeper spent nearly all his career at Newcastle playing second fiddle to Pavel and then to Given. He could easily have moved elsewhere and played regular football, but he chose what was best for him and his family.
Fans tend to look at things through the viewpoint of a fan and forget that players are human beings and will make career choices as such and not as fans
Basically everybody on this thread has acknowledged that financially it makes sense for him to do it and understand why he has.
Comparing the “workload” of a professional footballer to whatever tedious desk job you presumably do is such a false equivalence its hilarious.
You really are an idiot who comes out with utter tripe.
That ignore function not working?
LSN - provided a warning yesterday. Try to heed it and stop abusing me when I post something you disagree with old chap
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:26 am
by Max Fowler
spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:27 am
I'd be quite happy to have my salary increased and to have my workload greatly reduced.
His 'workload' is not greatly reduced.
If anything, I'd expect those not in the first team to put in more hours as they do not need the down time between games.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:29 am
by Loyal_Supporter
WhetstoneO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:27 pm
Not in the squad for Burnley's EFL game at Forest, Muric starts and Trafford on the bench. If he's not playing in these games when is he going to?
Probably in the EFL Trophy.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:36 am
by spen666
WhetstoneO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:27 pm
Not in the squad for Burnley's EFL game at Forest, Muric starts and Trafford on the bench. If he's not playing in these games when is he going to?
Does it matter if or when he plays?
if he is happy not playing and Burnley are happy to pay him, then it matters not if he plays or not.
We all work to make a living. If Vigs is making a living and is happy not playing often, then what does it matter?
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:49 am
by Sid Bishop
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:47 am
Really, the most important issue here is how the sport can be so unequal that a team just two divisions above us can afford to pay him more than double what we offered just as a punt
It is what it is, end of.
You could discuss endlessly as to why some people get vastly more money than others in so many different jobs, countries etc, but it wont change anything and never will.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:15 am
by Max B Gold
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:49 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:47 am
Really, the most important issue here is how the sport can be so unequal that a team just two divisions above us can afford to pay him more than double what we offered just as a punt
It is what it is, end of.
You could discuss endlessly as to why some people get vastly more money than others in so many different jobs, countries etc, but it wont change anything and never will.
Talk is cheap. Only action works.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:52 am
by The Reverend
Max Fowler wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:26 am
spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:27 am
I'd be quite happy to have my salary increased and to have my workload greatly reduced.
His 'workload' is not greatly reduced.
If anything, I'd expect those not in the first team to put in more hours as they do not need the down time between games.
Imagine comparing the “workload” of a professional footballer - a career which lasts 15 years if you’re lucky…maybe a bit more for a GK and where your progression is almost exclusively dependant on how well you perform when executing your “workload” - with some bog standard desk job.
It’s also nonsensical to assume that getting paid more to do less is a universally desired situation. There are plenty of people in the world who actively like their job and would either get bored or demotivated if their workload significantly decreased.
It’s one of the worst false equivalences I’ve seen on this board (and that’s really saying something).
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:56 am
by Max B Gold
The Reverend wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:52 am
Max Fowler wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:26 am
spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:27 am
I'd be quite happy to have my salary increased and to have my workload greatly reduced.
His 'workload' is not greatly reduced.
If anything, I'd expect those not in the first team to put in more hours as they do not need the down time between games.
Imagine comparing the “workload” of a professional footballer - a career which lasts 15 years if you’re lucky…maybe a bit more for a GK and where your progression is almost exclusively dependant on how well you perform when executing your “workload” - with some bog standard desk job.
It’s one of the worst false equivalences I’ve seen on this board (and that’s really saying something).
But don't Goalies get really fat after they retire having led a sedentary life style. Desk jockeys get fat much earlier in life. That's why I'd never be a pencil pusher.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:39 pm
by OyinbO
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:49 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:47 am
Really, the most important issue here is how the sport can be so unequal that a team just two divisions above us can afford to pay him more than double what we offered just as a punt
It is what it is, end of.
You could discuss endlessly as to why some people get vastly more money than others in so many different jobs, countries etc, but it wont change anything and never will.
Steady on Senator McCarthy
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:46 pm
by Sid Bishop
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:39 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:49 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:47 am
Really, the most important issue here is how the sport can be so unequal that a team just two divisions above us can afford to pay him more than double what we offered just as a punt
It is what it is, end of.
You could discuss endlessly as to why some people get vastly more money than others in so many different jobs, countries etc, but it wont change anything and never will.
Steady on Senator McCarthy
Fact of life, always happens regardless of whatever political system or country you live in.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:55 pm
by OyinbO
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:46 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:39 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:49 am
It is what it is, end of.
You could discuss endlessly as to why some people get vastly more money than others in so many different jobs, countries etc, but it wont change anything and never will.
Steady on Senator McCarthy
Fact of life, always happens regardless of whatever political system or country you live in.
Inequality does change - even just looking at the UK over the last 100 years it has waxed and waned. And it certainly has in football - the sport is now much more unequal than it was when you were a nipper. Of course it has always been unequal, that's the point of having divisions - but the degree of inequality is what we're talking about here.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:11 pm
by Max B Gold
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:10 am
Definitely on a lot more than 6k. He’ll be counting towards home grown quotas as well.
Prove it.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:33 pm
by Proposition Joe
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:29 am
WhetstoneO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:27 pm
Not in the squad for Burnley's EFL game at Forest, Muric starts and Trafford on the bench. If he's not playing in these games when is he going to?
Probably in the EFL Trophy.
How? Is he going out on loan?
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:14 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:11 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:10 am
Definitely on a lot more than 6k. He’ll be counting towards home grown quotas as well.
Prove it.
Prove he’s on 6k
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:42 pm
by Max B Gold
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:14 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:11 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:10 am
Definitely on a lot more than 6k. He’ll be counting towards home grown quotas as well.
Prove it.
Prove he’s on 6k
I don't have to. You are the one who says it's more than that. How much is it?
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:31 pm
by Sid Bishop
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:42 pm
I don't have to. You are the one who says it's more than that. How much is it?
Whats the big deal about Lawrence Vigouroux ?
His contract at Leyton Orient expired at the end of last season. He was offered a new contract by the Os but instead accepted a 3 year Contract with Burnley and thats about it.....those who are annoyed about this happening, well players come and go in football, so get over it !!
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:47 pm
by Max B Gold
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:31 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:42 pm
I don't have to. You are the one who says it's more than that. How much is it?
Whats the big deal about Lawrence Vigouroux ?
His contract at Leyton Orient expired at the end of last season. He was offered a new contract by the Os but instead accepted a 3 year Contract with Burnley and thats about it.....those who are annoyed about this happening, well players come and go in football, so get over it !!
Wise words but I'm keeping you on foe for the time being.
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:50 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:42 pm
I don't have to. You are the one who says it's more than that. How much is it?
You said he’s on 6k originally. Prove it
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:53 pm
by Sid Bishop
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:47 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:31 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:42 pm
I don't have to. You are the one who says it's more than that. How much is it?
Whats the big deal about Lawrence Vigouroux ?
His contract at Leyton Orient expired at the end of last season. He was offered a new contract by the Os but instead accepted a 3 year Contract with Burnley and thats about it.....those who are annoyed about this happening, well players come and go in football, so get over it !!
Wise words but I'm keeping you on foe for the time being.
Good for you but why read my comment then if I am on FOE ?
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:54 pm
by Max B Gold
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:50 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:42 pm
I don't have to. You are the one who says it's more than that. How much is it?
You said he’s on 6k originally. Prove it
Re: Vigs gone
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:55 pm
by Max B Gold
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:53 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:47 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:31 pm
Whats the big deal about Lawrence Vigouroux ?
His contract at Leyton Orient expired at the end of last season. He was offered a new contract by the Os but instead accepted a 3 year Contract with Burnley and thats about it.....those who are annoyed about this happening, well players come and go in football, so get over it !!
Wise words but I'm keeping you on foe for the time being.
Good for you but why read my comment then if I am on FOE ?
It was a mistake. If you are not logged in unfortunately you can see the posts of foes. I was unlucky enough to experience that technical glitch.