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Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:28 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Give it a rest mate, it’s clearly cos people don’t work on weekends, or something

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:28 am
by HeyO
Aspiration - non-target

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:37 am
by NuneatonO's
Brexit will mean checks on goods crossing Irish Sea, government admits

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ent-admits

Even MORE lies from the Etonian Spaffer then. :lol:

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:33 pm
by NuneatonO's
Health minister Nadine Dorries has been accused of spreading "fake news"

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/m ... our-leade/

As Wes Streeting correctly points out (quote) "You had time to do this despite being a Minister in the Department of Health during a public health crisis".

What a pathetic woman.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:34 pm
by Clive Evans
She was helped by her Fasciti mates....UGH!!!!!

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:03 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Starmer should sue. For too long, the far right has got away with murder with lies they have been saying about Labour.
Sue, I say

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:15 pm
by Disoriented
In a nest of Tory vipers, Dorries is one of the more contemptible snakes.

Yes, I-Keir should sue.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:35 am
by Currywurst and Chips
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Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:23 pm
by NuneatonO's
Beggar’s banquet
FEW personify the incongruity of avoiding tax bills and then claiming taxpayer help better than the, er, treasurer of the Tory party.


https://www.private-eye.co.uk/news

What a deceitful lot these Tories truly are.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:51 pm
by Thor
Why are you surprised at what the ruling elite get up to?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:37 pm
by NuneatonO's
Thor wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:51 pm Why are you surprised at what the ruling elite get up to?
Where have I said I'm surprised?

Disgusted......most definitely.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:17 pm
by Top of the JES
UpminsterO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 10:55 pm It's the political system that is the core problem
Alternating red to blue and blue to red with a few others dotted about
How can any country be deemed accurately democratic when -
Blue - is funded the way it is / select it's MP the way it does and draws people educated in way where they are - from that social economic group

Grove and mr Boris both with degrees that show they will not be the best brains in this world. Yep get a crap degree in arts and then join a political party. Historically they recruited lawyers hence their uncaring behaviour

The Red lot are not much better with the quality to be seen - using left wing rhetoric as a veneer of their own career greed, Would Abbot hold any reasonable job not in politics - suprise me and tell me yes but use rational as evidence.

God we had Blair a person with a default grin that allegedly was chosen by a third party due to his historical behaviour outside politics and then controlled - I cannot write more on this as its would get me banned from this forum. How many houses does he now own in the best parts of London and the debacle when the honey wife bought those flats in Bristol with that dubious connections

You had or have the distgusting sky owner visiting Cameron so many times during the pre election run up at that time

Look at Boris record as a mayor look at WHU deal as a prime example of that debacle with Coe involved and his brainless comments about a legacy

The criticism is endless

The absolute shambles on the virus is a national disgrace and devoid of any logical decent planning and they should be sacked without the next award - gravitating to the House of Lords or rewarded with an Ambassadors position somewhere - great work if one can get chosen easy money for no real work

The number of health workers that have died is likeable irresponsibility to mankind,their families and the the tax payers. I really hope there is a class action against the conservatives

The cherry on the top is the queen telling us we will meet again that ain't going be easy unless you get a pass into the castle. Charles does not pay any tax on his earnings from his land owning inherited investments and struts about with his left hand always in his jacket pocket like a total twit

Keep safe and well everyone this virus nightmare will be over one day but it's you the British tax payer that needs to object to the system to improve fairness and create true transparency of decency.
The Prince of Wales voluntarily pays income tax at the 45 per cent rate on his income from the Duchy of Cornwall, after his business-related costs are deducted. His taxes are checked by HMRC, like anyone else, which reviews all his business deductions. However the Duchy of Cornwall itself is exempt from corporation Tax.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:18 pm
by HeyO
Top of the JES wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:17 pm
UpminsterO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 10:55 pm It's the political system that is the core problem
Alternating red to blue and blue to red with a few others dotted about
How can any country be deemed accurately democratic when -
Blue - is funded the way it is / select it's MP the way it does and draws people educated in way where they are - from that social economic group

Grove and mr Boris both with degrees that show they will not be the best brains in this world. Yep get a crap degree in arts and then join a political party. Historically they recruited lawyers hence their uncaring behaviour

The Red lot are not much better with the quality to be seen - using left wing rhetoric as a veneer of their own career greed, Would Abbot hold any reasonable job not in politics - suprise me and tell me yes but use rational as evidence.

God we had Blair a person with a default grin that allegedly was chosen by a third party due to his historical behaviour outside politics and then controlled - I cannot write more on this as its would get me banned from this forum. How many houses does he now own in the best parts of London and the debacle when the honey wife bought those flats in Bristol with that dubious connections

You had or have the distgusting sky owner visiting Cameron so many times during the pre election run up at that time

Look at Boris record as a mayor look at WHU deal as a prime example of that debacle with Coe involved and his brainless comments about a legacy

The criticism is endless

The absolute shambles on the virus is a national disgrace and devoid of any logical decent planning and they should be sacked without the next award - gravitating to the House of Lords or rewarded with an Ambassadors position somewhere - great work if one can get chosen easy money for no real work

The number of health workers that have died is likeable irresponsibility to mankind,their families and the the tax payers. I really hope there is a class action against the conservatives

The cherry on the top is the queen telling us we will meet again that ain't going be easy unless you get a pass into the castle. Charles does not pay any tax on his earnings from his land owning inherited investments and struts about with his left hand always in his jacket pocket like a total twit

Keep safe and well everyone this virus nightmare will be over one day but it's you the British tax payer that needs to object to the system to improve fairness and create true transparency of decency.
The Prince of Wales voluntarily pays income tax at the 45 per cent rate on his income from the Duchy of Cornwall, after his business-related costs are deducted. His taxes are checked by HMRC, like anyone else, which reviews all his business deductions. However the Duchy of Cornwall itself is exempt from corporation Tax.
Your point is?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:35 pm
by Max B Gold
HeyO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:18 pm
Top of the JES wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:17 pm
UpminsterO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 10:55 pm It's the political system that is the core problem
Alternating red to blue and blue to red with a few others dotted about
How can any country be deemed accurately democratic when -
Blue - is funded the way it is / select it's MP the way it does and draws people educated in way where they are - from that social economic group

Grove and mr Boris both with degrees that show they will not be the best brains in this world. Yep get a crap degree in arts and then join a political party. Historically they recruited lawyers hence their uncaring behaviour

The Red lot are not much better with the quality to be seen - using left wing rhetoric as a veneer of their own career greed, Would Abbot hold any reasonable job not in politics - suprise me and tell me yes but use rational as evidence.

God we had Blair a person with a default grin that allegedly was chosen by a third party due to his historical behaviour outside politics and then controlled - I cannot write more on this as its would get me banned from this forum. How many houses does he now own in the best parts of London and the debacle when the honey wife bought those flats in Bristol with that dubious connections

You had or have the distgusting sky owner visiting Cameron so many times during the pre election run up at that time

Look at Boris record as a mayor look at WHU deal as a prime example of that debacle with Coe involved and his brainless comments about a legacy

The criticism is endless

The absolute shambles on the virus is a national disgrace and devoid of any logical decent planning and they should be sacked without the next award - gravitating to the House of Lords or rewarded with an Ambassadors position somewhere - great work if one can get chosen easy money for no real work

The number of health workers that have died is likeable irresponsibility to mankind,their families and the the tax payers. I really hope there is a class action against the conservatives

The cherry on the top is the queen telling us we will meet again that ain't going be easy unless you get a pass into the castle. Charles does not pay any tax on his earnings from his land owning inherited investments and struts about with his left hand always in his jacket pocket like a total twit

Keep safe and well everyone this virus nightmare will be over one day but it's you the British tax payer that needs to object to the system to improve fairness and create true transparency of decency.
The Prince of Wales voluntarily pays income tax at the 45 per cent rate on his income from the Duchy of Cornwall, after his business-related costs are deducted. His taxes are checked by HMRC, like anyone else, which reviews all his business deductions. However the Duchy of Cornwall itself is exempt from corporation Tax.
Your point is?
He lost me at the voluntarily paying tax bit.

Why is the Duchy exempt from CT?

So he pays tax on income drawn from a tax free enterprise but only on a voluntary basis BUT after deducting business expenses?

This is sounding very much like Camerons Dad's Offshore scam (Remember that?). Except this one is onshore. Nice.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:02 am
by Top of the JES
HeyO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:18 pm
Top of the JES wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:17 pm
UpminsterO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 10:55 pm It's the political system that is the core problem
Alternating red to blue and blue to red with a few others dotted about
How can any country be deemed accurately democratic when -
Blue - is funded the way it is / select it's MP the way it does and draws people educated in way where they are - from that social economic group

Grove and mr Boris both with degrees that show they will not be the best brains in this world. Yep get a crap degree in arts and then join a political party. Historically they recruited lawyers hence their uncaring behaviour

The Red lot are not much better with the quality to be seen - using left wing rhetoric as a veneer of their own career greed, Would Abbot hold any reasonable job not in politics - suprise me and tell me yes but use rational as evidence.

God we had Blair a person with a default grin that allegedly was chosen by a third party due to his historical behaviour outside politics and then controlled - I cannot write more on this as its would get me banned from this forum. How many houses does he now own in the best parts of London and the debacle when the honey wife bought those flats in Bristol with that dubious connections

You had or have the distgusting sky owner visiting Cameron so many times during the pre election run up at that time

Look at Boris record as a mayor look at WHU deal as a prime example of that debacle with Coe involved and his brainless comments about a legacy

The criticism is endless

The absolute shambles on the virus is a national disgrace and devoid of any logical decent planning and they should be sacked without the next award - gravitating to the House of Lords or rewarded with an Ambassadors position somewhere - great work if one can get chosen easy money for no real work

The number of health workers that have died is likeable irresponsibility to mankind,their families and the the tax payers. I really hope there is a class action against the conservatives

The cherry on the top is the queen telling us we will meet again that ain't going be easy unless you get a pass into the castle. Charles does not pay any tax on his earnings from his land owning inherited investments and struts about with his left hand always in his jacket pocket like a total twit

Keep safe and well everyone this virus nightmare will be over one day but it's you the British tax payer that needs to object to the system to improve fairness and create true transparency of decency.
The Prince of Wales voluntarily pays income tax at the 45 per cent rate on his income from the Duchy of Cornwall, after his business-related costs are deducted. His taxes are checked by HMRC, like anyone else, which reviews all his business deductions. However the Duchy of Cornwall itself is exempt from corporation Tax.
Your point is?
Correcting the original post that Prince Charles does not pay tax, which he does.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:08 am
by Max B Gold
Top of the JES wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:02 am
HeyO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:18 pm
Top of the JES wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:17 pm

The Prince of Wales voluntarily pays income tax at the 45 per cent rate on his income from the Duchy of Cornwall, after his business-related costs are deducted. His taxes are checked by HMRC, like anyone else, which reviews all his business deductions. However the Duchy of Cornwall itself is exempt from corporation Tax.
Your point is?
Correcting the original post that Prince Charles does not pay tax, which he does.
Not on the same basis as most taxpayers.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:12 am
by Top of the JES
Max B Gold wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:08 am
Top of the JES wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:02 am
HeyO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 11:18 pm

Your point is?
Correcting the original post that Prince Charles does not pay tax, which he does.
Not on the same basis as most taxpayers.
Maybe so but I guess he pays more than most taxpayers whatever basis it is.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:17 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
I also guess he was given more money for free than most others.

So swings and roundabouts.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:21 am
by Top of the JES
RedO wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:17 am I also guess he was given more money for free than most others.

So swings and roundabouts.
No denying that, he didn't have to work hard to pick up the Duchy of Cornwall gig did he, but to say he doesn't pay tax isn't right.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 12:34 am
by Max B Gold
Top of the JES wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:21 am
RedO wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:17 am I also guess he was given more money for free than most others.

So swings and roundabouts.
No denying that, he didn't have to work hard to pick up the Duchy of Cornwall gig did he, but to say he doesn't pay tax isn't right.
The real question is of course why is he even that position. Big Eared Nonce.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 7:01 am
by HeyO
Max B Gold wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:34 am
Top of the JES wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:21 am
RedO wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 12:17 am I also guess he was given more money for free than most others.

So swings and roundabouts.
No denying that, he didn't have to work hard to pick up the Duchy of Cornwall gig did he, but to say he doesn't pay tax isn't right.
The real question is of course why is he even that position. Big Eared Nonce.
Very accurate observation.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 9:11 am
by Admin
UpminsterO wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 10:55 pm It's the political system that is the core problem
Alternating red to blue and blue to red with a few others dotted about
How can any country be deemed accurately democratic when -
Blue - is funded the way it is / select it's MP the way it does and draws people educated in way where they are - from that social economic group

Grove and mr Boris both with degrees that show they will not be the best brains in this world. Yep get a crap degree in arts and then join a political party. Historically they recruited lawyers hence their uncaring behaviour

The Red lot are not much better with the quality to be seen - using left wing rhetoric as a veneer of their own career greed, Would Abbot hold any reasonable job not in politics - suprise me and tell me yes but use rational as evidence.

God we had Blair a person with a default grin that allegedly was chosen by a third party due to his historical behaviour outside politics and then controlled - I cannot write more on this as its would get me banned from this forum. How many houses does he now own in the best parts of London and the debacle when the honey wife bought those flats in Bristol with that dubious connections

You had or have the distgusting sky owner visiting Cameron so many times during the pre election run up at that time

Look at Boris record as a mayor look at WHU deal as a prime example of that debacle with Coe involved and his brainless comments about a legacy

The criticism is endless

The absolute shambles on the virus is a national disgrace and devoid of any logical decent planning and they should be sacked without the next award - gravitating to the House of Lords or rewarded with an Ambassadors position somewhere - great work if one can get chosen easy money for no real work

The number of health workers that have died is irresponsibility to mankind like genocide to their families and the victim as tax payers. I really hope there is a true independent action against the conservatives

The cherry on the top is the queen telling us we will meet again - that ain't going be easy unless you get a pass into the castle. Charles does not pay any tax on his earnings from his land owning inherited investments and struts about with his left hand always in his jacket pocket like a total twit

Keep safe and well everyone this virus nightmare will be over one day but it's you the British tax payer that needs to object to the system to improve fairness and create true transparency of decency.
Diane Abbott. The same Diane Abbott who held jobs in the civil service and as a researcher and then presenter on TV-AM?

The Diane Abbott who attended both grammar school and Cambridge in an era when black students in those surroundings was almost unheard of?

Diane Abbott - the first black woman MP and longest serving black MP who’s generally acknowledged as a pathfinder for the countless BAME MP’s who followed her.

Interesting choice you made there. Any idea why you chose her and why she still receives abuse of a daily basis for an error she made 3 years ago whilst other shitbags in and out of government float along untouched regardless of the havoc they wreak?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 10:14 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
To be fair, Patel can’t even read numbers out never mind remember them and no one goes on about that anymore, so you can’t play the racist and misogynist card on this one.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 10:45 am
by Admin
Disagree. Patel’s got plenty of pelters (admittedly not as much as Abbott) for her error. Someone like Hancock or Gove wouldn’t get anywhere near what those two got.

Believe me, I’m no fan of Patel - she’s a swivel eyed loon but I still believe she copped more abuse for being a BAME woman.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 11:59 am
by Eat The Rich
My wife had a very depressing conversation with her uncle the other day. He's a retired NHS lab tec. He still has a lot of friends who work in the sector and their assessment of where we're at is pretty grim. What's worse is that they have a lot of spare capacity but they're not being used because the Government agreed a deal to outsource our lab tec to the US where its undertaken by far less qualified people. This outsourcing has cost a small fortune and added to massive delays and flawed processing and analysis.