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Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:15 pm
by tuffers#1
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:11 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:55 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:49 pm
I don't know how Ferugson counts as 'proper' and Vallance, Whitty etc don't. It seems like there's been a understanding of the 'herd immunity' quote. I'd be lying if I said I understood this particularly well so perhaps I'm butchering the logic, but herd immunity is ultimately what most countries will end up achieving anyways, assuming that 18 months of the current situation is considered unsustainable. The whole point of flattening the curve is to regulate healthcare demands whilst accepting infections will become widespread. Merkel has said as much, and Germany is implementing rigorous controls for now.
Your last point I agree with, but there's nothing to suggest that's the result of the approach recommended by Whitty et all. Getting the right in place is a decade old problem as well, not just the last few botched months.
Not to sound too 'Thory' but I wouldn't believe a word from China on this. They have the WHO in their pocket and are responsible for not dealing with this at origin, and failing to notify the world in time.
Is that Why Russian conspiracy theorists are flooding the internet there with
Stories it was an American Biological weapon used to undermine China & Russias
Wealth & to help stabilise Americas rising debt ?
Is what why?
Exactly
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:28 am
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:15 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:11 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:55 pm
Is that Why Russian conspiracy theorists are flooding the internet there with
Stories it was an American Biological weapon used to undermine China & Russias
Wealth & to help stabilise Americas rising debt ?
Is what why?
Exactly
Let's go to war.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:53 am
by Disoriented
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:24 pm
I don't understand why we copied a disastrous country like Italy and not a successful one like South Korea who have had less than 200 deaths total.
Exactly.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:28 am
by Long slender neck
Minimal lockdown in Sweden, will be interesting to see if it works for them.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:41 am
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:35 pm
13 year old from South London died had no known underlying health conditions, yet there will be no post mortem.
Suffered cardiac arrest so that's probably why no post mortem. But they need to be investigating and verify whether the Coronavirus caused it, otherwise it's a bit misleading to put this down to Covid-19
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:38 am
by Long slender neck
China has approved the use of bear bile to treat critically ill coronavirus patients.
The National Health Commission has recommended the use of Tan Re Qing - an injection that contains bear bile, goat horn and herbs - to treat patients with Covid-19.
But there is no evidence the mixture has any medicinal value.
Bear bile, which is produced in the liver and stored in the gall bladder, has been used in traditional Chinese medicine for hundreds of years and fetches a high price in the illegal international market.
The move to approve its use has angered animal rights activists and comes just weeks after the country banned the sale of wild animals for food.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:59 am
by BoniO
I think the Chinese government enjoys putting 2 fingers up to the rest of the World. They also allowed the Wuhan market to re-open a few days back, trading in live animals just as before.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:43 am
by RedDwarf 1881
How long will it be before we get another virus from the area
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:55 pm
by tuffers#1
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:56 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
569 more deaths
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:58 pm
by Long slender neck
At least its not a huge increase on yesterday.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:09 pm
by JimbO
It's the cases you need to worry about as much if they keep going up by bigger and bigger numbers then we're all fecked.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:10 pm
by Long slender neck
Cases slightly down on yesterday
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:20 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Will be interesting to see how things go over the next week, especially as we're now approaching two weeks since the start of the lockdown. Hopefully we'll soon start to see the impact of that in the figures.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:22 pm
by NuneatonO's
The response from Britons returning to the UK:
https://www.aol.co.uk/living/2020/04/02 ... after-lan/
It appears that even Cambodia is better organised and prepared than the UK!
This useless, shambolic, totally incompetent Tory Government. It truly beggars belief.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:40 pm
by VeganO
Are we really surprised!
Their time in Government since 2010 has been a byword in incompetence, BREXIT, HS2, the economy etc
It is simply amazing that this shower were re-elected in Dec.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:15 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
684 deaths since yesterday.
Anybody got the cumulative total in a line chart?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:33 pm
by Long slender neck
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:54 pm
by Thor
Thor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:56 pm
Anthony Yardes dad is one of them, the boxer announced this news today and said his dad was fit and healthy and had no underlying health issues.
He has now lost his nan to the virus as well.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:27 am
by Thor
Vast morgue set up at the low farm depot, which is near houses.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:39 am
by Long slender neck
Got a cough
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:45 am
by BoniO
Hopefully that's all it is.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:45 am
by slacker
We've now had more deaths in the UK than in China. I really don't understand how anyone can look at those numbers and think that our Govt is doing "a great job". We have less than 5% of their population and we had more than a month's headstart in preparing to tackle and mitigate the issue.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:47 am
by Currywurst and Chips
slacker wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:45 am
We've now had more deaths in the UK than in China. I really don't understand how anyone can look at those numbers and think that our Govt is doing "a great job". We have less than 5% of their population and we had more than a month's headstart in preparing to tackle and mitigate the issue.
You believe the Chinese government figures?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:57 am
by Long slender neck
China aren't trustworthy but there are other Asian countries with low figures like South Korea.
