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Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:50 pm Lol the annual relegation zone by November post is up

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:43 pm Why would you give Jobi the gig?
No experience at management level being a captain is completely different
Danny Webb has the experience he did ok under a lot of pressure last time round and is a no nonsense guy just like JE he knows the players how the club works etc
For me Danny with Ross at his side
Jobi and Brill can still be mentors etc

Orient_Man_And_Boy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:13 pm The important thing is to remember that we must honour JE by getting behind the new appointment and all the players for 90+ minutes every game and push them to League 1. But we must not forget that everybody on the pitch is gonna be mighty chewed up by this horrid loss.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:26 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:08 pm The only way I can see an internal reshuffling working is giving Jobi the gig and keeping the others in situ.

Don’t you need coaching badges etc to be a manager/coach

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:30 pm Blimey I really thought the statement was going to prepare us for something positive to make up for the deep joy of welcoming Josh Wright back to the club: A side-passing midfielder par excellence who is not even the best footballer in his own family.
We will now have a week of crown jewels moving on and the arrival of a clutch of hopeful but probably tarnished and in all likelihood garbage replacements.
At least the club will be able to balance the books.

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:30 pm Blimey I really thought the statement was going to prepare us for something positive to make up for the deep joy of welcoming Josh Wright back to the club: A side-passing midfielder par excellence who is not even the best footballer in his own family.
We will now have a week of crown jewels moving on and the arrival of a clutch of hopeful but probably tarnished and in all likelihood garbage replacements.
At least the club will be able to balance the books.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:40 pm

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:30 pm Blimey I really thought the statement was going to prepare us for something positive to make up for the deep joy of welcoming Josh Wright back to the club: A side-passing midfielder par excellence who is not even the best footballer in his own family.
We will now have a week of crown jewels moving on and the arrival of a clutch of hopeful but probably tarnished and in all likelihood garbage replacements.
At least the club will be able to balance the books.

There will be a lot of talk about keeping the club “sustainable” all summer. Season tickets up 40%. 1 player signed on a free and the other one for pretty much 2 months wages. That’s either going to be the pattern or they’re the easy deals done early and first.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:46 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:40 pm

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:30 pm Blimey I really thought the statement was going to prepare us for something positive to make up for the deep joy of welcoming Josh Wright back to the club: A side-passing midfielder par excellence who is not even the best footballer in his own family.
We will now have a week of crown jewels moving on and the arrival of a clutch of hopeful but probably tarnished and in all likelihood garbage replacements.
At least the club will be able to balance the books.

There will be a lot of talk about keeping the club “sustainable” all summer. Season tickets up 40%. 1 player signed on a free and the other one for pretty much 2 months wages. That’s either going to be the pattern or they’re the easy deals done early and first.

We paid what his release clause required us to pay for him, in exactly the same way Charlton did for Bonne. Just because the release fee is set at a certain level, it doesn't mean that it matches the players value.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:48 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:46 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:40 pm
There will be a lot of talk about keeping the club “sustainable” all summer. Season tickets up 40%. 1 player signed on a free and the other one for pretty much 2 months wages. That’s either going to be the pattern or they’re the easy deals done early and first.

We paid what his release clause required us to pay for him, in exactly the same way Charlton did for Bonne. Just because the release fee is set at a certain level, it doesn't mean that it matches the players value.

I know. I’m saying that the release clause was cheap.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:54 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:48 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:46 pm

We paid what his release clause required us to pay for him, in exactly the same way Charlton did for Bonne. Just because the release fee is set at a certain level, it doesn't mean that it matches the players value.

I know. I’m saying that the release clause was cheap.

Yes, because we had to accept such a clause at a low price in order to get anything for him. If we had gone higher and the offer had been rejected, he could have walked for free this summer, or for a tribunal cost which I'd imagine would be somewhat less than whatever we have got for him.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:54 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:48 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:46 pm

We paid what his release clause required us to pay for him, in exactly the same way Charlton did for Bonne. Just because the release fee is set at a certain level, it doesn't mean that it matches the players value.

I know. I’m saying that the release clause was cheap.

Yes, because we had to accept such a clause at a low price in order to get anything for him. If we had gone higher and the offer had been rejected, he could have walked for free this summer, or for a tribunal cost which I'd imagine would be somewhat less than whatever we have got for him.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:40 pm

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:30 pm Blimey I really thought the statement was going to prepare us for something positive to make up for the deep joy of welcoming Josh Wright back to the club: A side-passing midfielder par excellence who is not even the best footballer in his own family.
We will now have a week of crown jewels moving on and the arrival of a clutch of hopeful but probably tarnished and in all likelihood garbage replacements.
At least the club will be able to balance the books.

There will be a lot of talk about keeping the club “sustainable” all summer. Season tickets up 40%. 1 player signed on a free and the other one for pretty much 2 months wages. That’s either going to be the pattern or they’re the easy deals done early and first.

Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:34 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:40 pm

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:30 pm Blimey I really thought the statement was going to prepare us for something positive to make up for the deep joy of welcoming Josh Wright back to the club: A side-passing midfielder par excellence who is not even the best footballer in his own family.
We will now have a week of crown jewels moving on and the arrival of a clutch of hopeful but probably tarnished and in all likelihood garbage replacements.
At least the club will be able to balance the books.

There will be a lot of talk about keeping the club “sustainable” all summer. Season tickets up 40%. 1 player signed on a free and the other one for pretty much 2 months wages. That’s either going to be the pattern or they’re the easy deals done early and first.

What a load of CR.P! What season tickets have gone up 40% (If you are referring to the kids tickets then your maths is still wrong) For most ST's the increase was fairly modest and one I was very happy to pay and took advantage of the early deal.

You just don't get it do you?

Moan when we get relegated, complain about a non existent 40% rise.

I have never felt so confident about our club with our new owners and the way they have handled the passing of Justin with such sensitivity sets a very high standard. Just for once let them do their job, appoint who they want and we get on with giving 100% support to the club at this very difficult time.
Do you really think 'balancing the books' is an appropriate thing to say to two very successful men who literally poured money into Orient and were happy to do so to keep the club going.
You really p.ss me off with your carping and negativity.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:40 pm

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:30 pm Blimey I really thought the statement was going to prepare us for something positive to make up for the deep joy of welcoming Josh Wright back to the club: A side-passing midfielder par excellence who is not even the best footballer in his own family.
We will now have a week of crown jewels moving on and the arrival of a clutch of hopeful but probably tarnished and in all likelihood garbage replacements.
At least the club will be able to balance the books.

There will be a lot of talk about keeping the club “sustainable” all summer. Season tickets up 40%. 1 player signed on a free and the other one for pretty much 2 months wages. That’s either going to be the pattern or they’re the easy deals done early and first.

Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:35 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:40 pm

ContrifibulatoryFred wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:30 pm Blimey I really thought the statement was going to prepare us for something positive to make up for the deep joy of welcoming Josh Wright back to the club: A side-passing midfielder par excellence who is not even the best footballer in his own family.
We will now have a week of crown jewels moving on and the arrival of a clutch of hopeful but probably tarnished and in all likelihood garbage replacements.
At least the club will be able to balance the books.

There will be a lot of talk about keeping the club “sustainable” all summer. Season tickets up 40%. 1 player signed on a free and the other one for pretty much 2 months wages. That’s either going to be the pattern or they’re the easy deals done early and first.

Err I quoted what YOU said above about a 40% hike in season tickets so don’t blame someone else. I could claim someone called you an imbecile but that doesn’t necessarily mean you are, does it?

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:54 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:48 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:46 pm

We paid what his release clause required us to pay for him, in exactly the same way Charlton did for Bonne. Just because the release fee is set at a certain level, it doesn't mean that it matches the players value.

I know. I’m saying that the release clause was cheap.

Yes, because we had to accept such a clause at a low price in order to get anything for him. If we had gone higher and the offer had been rejected, he could have walked for free this summer, or for a tribunal cost which I'd imagine would be somewhat less than whatever we have got for him.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:39 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:54 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:48 pm
I know. I’m saying that the release clause was cheap.

Yes, because we had to accept such a clause at a low price in order to get anything for him. If we had gone higher and the offer had been rejected, he could have walked for free this summer, or for a tribunal cost which I'd imagine would be somewhat less than whatever we have got for him.

Disagree mate.

A tribunal would definitely have awarded us moe than £200k. Would have had a sell on %age too.

Makes you wonder if we’d have been better off going down that route?

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:22 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:39 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:54 pm

Yes, because we had to accept such a clause at a low price in order to get anything for him. If we had gone higher and the offer had been rejected, he could have walked for free this summer, or for a tribunal cost which I'd imagine would be somewhat less than whatever we have got for him.

Disagree mate.

A tribunal would definitely have awarded us moe than £200k. Would have had a sell on %age too.

Makes you wonder if we’d have been better off going down that route?

I've no idea what the tribunal fee would be, I was just making the assumption that it would be less than whatever the clause was, as the clause and new contract would then be pointless.