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Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:13 pm
by Ornchurch
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:03 pm
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:45 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:32 pm
Well I guess the consequence would be that the racist c*** would feel all butthurt and tearful and go on the internet to complain, but as that would be the intended consequence there's no problem.
Well I suggest that calling someone a racist c*** to their face could well result in more than a complaint on the internet.
Someone i went to school with
Called someone a racist c*nt
The Racist C*nt swang a fist but
The school friend had put his forehead
against the racist nose before the punch got near &
lots of Blood flowed .
I guess thats what Enoch meant by
Rivers of Blood .
Probably. Proves my point though.
Did the same situation ever occur over a bit of booing?
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:15 pm
by PutneyO
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:01 pm
PutneyO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:53 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:08 pm
I think it's the italics that did it, and your previous posts that lead me right down the path of you not being a vile racist. Well done you!
Whatever
Yes! I win! YES!
How can I ever win against someone as pompous and arrogant as you, it's impossible !
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:28 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:45 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:32 pm
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:18 am
So calling someone a racist c*** is consequence free speech is it?
Well I guess the consequence would be that the racist c*** would feel all butthurt and tearful and go on the internet to complain, but as that would be the intended consequence there's no problem.
Well I suggest that calling someone a racist c*** to their face could well result in more than a complaint on the internet.
Calm down pussycat, it's just free speech x
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:34 pm
by tuffers#1
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:13 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:03 pm
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:45 pm
Well I suggest that calling someone a racist c*** to their face could well result in more than a complaint on the internet.
Someone i went to school with
Called someone a racist c*nt
The Racist C*nt swang a fist but
The school friend had put his forehead
against the racist nose before the punch got near &
lots of Blood flowed .
I guess thats what Enoch meant by
Rivers of Blood .
Probably. Proves my point though.
Did the same situation ever occur over a bit of booing?
It didnt even start out as seriously as booing
people for kneeling down .
Proves nothing really
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:36 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
PutneyO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:15 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:01 pm
PutneyO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:53 pm
Whatever
Yes! I win! YES!
How can I ever win against someone as pompous and arrogant as you, it's impossible !
Exactly. Know your place!
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:37 pm
by Ornchurch
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:28 pm
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:45 pm
StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:32 pm
Well I guess the consequence would be that the racist c*** would feel all butthurt and tearful and go on the internet to complain, but as that would be the intended consequence there's no problem.
Well I suggest that calling someone a racist c*** to their face could well result in more than a complaint on the internet.
Calm down pussycat, it's just free speech x
So is the booing so why are you getting worked up?
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:41 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:37 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:28 pm
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:45 pm
Well I suggest that calling someone a racist c*** to their face could well result in more than a complaint on the internet.
Calm down pussycat, it's just free speech x
So is the booing so why are you getting worked up?
Where am I getting worked up?
The ones getting worked up are those booing. And those who repetitively launch threads entitled 'I'm bored of the kneeling'.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:27 pm
by tuffers#1
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:41 pm
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:37 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:28 pm
Calm down pussycat, it's just free speech x
So is the booing so why are you getting worked up?
Where am I getting worked up?
The ones getting worked up are those booing. And those who repetitively launch threads entitled 'I'm bored of the kneeling'.
Its a good job the bored of kneeling arent Catholics who
attend church every sunday . Brings a whole new
aspect of bored by kneeling !
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:21 pm
by PutneyO
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:36 pm
PutneyO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:15 pm
How can I ever win against someone as pompous and arrogant as you, it's impossible !
Exactly. Know your place!
You stupid boy
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:56 pm
by Long slender neck
Doubt it's ever going to make a significant impact so this is just going to go on forever or until the next distraction. With one side saying they're bored and the other claiming just not kneeled enough to end racism yet.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:55 pm
by PutneyO
Brentford’s players have announced they will no longer take the knee before matches.
Bees’ squad issued a statement yesterday ahead of this afternoon’s home clash with Barnsley.
They reinforced commitment to eradicating racism and discrimination - but explained they believe the gesture is no longer having an impact.
The decision comes days after Wilfried Zaha said it was “degrading” for black players to take the knee to “show that we matter”.
COMMON SENSE AT LAST
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:12 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
It’s good that we’ve now sorted racialism at last.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:16 pm
by Ornchurch
How has it gone from being a massive statement against racism to it being degrading to black players?
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:19 pm
by PutneyO
Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:16 pm
How has it gone from being a massive statement against racism to it being degrading to black players?
That's an excellent point Ornchurch and you should raise this with Wilfried Zaha
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:47 pm
by OyinbO
Here's the thing - if Black players want to do it, I will support it - and them. If they don't want to do it anymore, I will respect that too.
It's not really for me, or for any other white person to decide what's best here - though everyone is, of course, entitled to their view. Just as we are entitled to call them out for it if that view clearly indicates there's some racism lurking in it.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:01 pm
by Mistadobalina
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:55 pm
Brentford’s players have announced they will no longer take the knee before matches.
Bees’ squad issued a statement yesterday ahead of this afternoon’s home clash with Barnsley.
They reinforced commitment to eradicating racism and discrimination - but explained they believe the gesture is no longer having an impact.
The decision comes days after Wilfried Zaha said it was “degrading” for black players to take the knee to “show that we matter”.
COMMON SENSE AT LAST
You've taken what Zaha said completely out of context. I really doubt the reason the Brentford players have decided to stop (which is also completely fine, no-one is saying its mandatory!) are the same reasons that you find the gesture objectionable.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:16 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:55 pm
Brentford’s players have announced they will no longer take the knee before matches.
Bees’ squad issued a statement yesterday ahead of this afternoon’s home clash with Barnsley.
They reinforced commitment to eradicating racism and discrimination - but explained they believe the gesture is no longer having an impact.
The decision comes days after Wilfried Zaha said it was “degrading” for black players to take the knee to “show that we matter”.
COMMON SENSE AT LAST
It’s almost like time and society moves on and changes/adapts.
Always wondered why the miners weren’t striking any more
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:30 pm
by Ornchurch
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:16 pm
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:55 pm
Brentford’s players have announced they will no longer take the knee before matches.
Bees’ squad issued a statement yesterday ahead of this afternoon’s home clash with Barnsley.
They reinforced commitment to eradicating racism and discrimination - but explained they believe the gesture is no longer having an impact.
The decision comes days after Wilfried Zaha said it was “degrading” for black players to take the knee to “show that we matter”.
COMMON SENSE AT LAST
It’s almost like time and society moves on and changes/adapts.
Always wondered why the miners weren’t striking any more
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:57 pm
by tuffers#1
OyinbO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:47 pm
Here's the thing - if Black players want to do it, I will support it - and them. If they don't want to do it anymore, I will respect that too.
It's not really for me, or for any other white person to decide what's best here - though everyone is, of course, entitled to their view. Just as we are entitled to call them out for it if that view clearly indicates there's some racism lurking in it.
Very well said !
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:09 pm
by BIGRON
I won't take the knee ......simply because I'd have a job to get back up again
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:20 pm
by Harlow
Does taking the knee hurt anyone, no of course not (Big Ron excepted, stuck in that position )? Does it do any good, I don't know, it highlights ongoing issues, issues which in a civilised country like ours should have been put to bed years ago.
I think BAME people are the ones to say whether it helps or not.
I have never seen or heard racism at Orient I am pleased to say
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:46 pm
by PutneyO
Harlow wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:20 pm
Does taking the knee hurt anyone, no of course not (Big Ron excepted, stuck in that position )? Does it do any good, I don't know, it highlights ongoing issues, issues which in a civilised country like ours should have been put to bed years ago.
I think BAME people are the ones to say whether it helps or not.
I have never seen or heard racism at Orient I am pleased to say
You're so patronising ...... where's the sick bucket
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:25 pm
by Ornchurch
Harlow wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:20 pm
Does taking the knee hurt anyone, no of course not (Big Ron excepted, stuck in that position )? Does it do any good, I don't know, it highlights ongoing issues, issues which in a civilised country like ours should have been put to bed years ago.
I think BAME people are the ones to say whether it helps or not.
I have never seen or heard racism at Orient I am pleased to say
The term BAME is also starting to cause issues. I was listening to Trevor Sinclair on TalkSport last week and he said that he doesn’t like the word and doesn’t like being included in the BAME group as he is not BAME but Black.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:42 am
by PutneyO
Will the World Cup footballers take the knee for the slaves that have died building the stadiums in Qatar ?
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:50 am
by Ornchurch
PutneyO wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:42 am
Will the World Cup footballers take the knee for the slaves that have died building the stadiums in Qatar ?
Were they black?
They was the other point that Sinclair made last week to Simon Jordan. He isn’t interested in Asian or other BAME people, just the ones that look like him.
