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Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:48 pm
by tuffers#1
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:19 pm Speaking of taking the knee, came across this image the other day

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Whats funny is that Johnson
Will never get him on a leash

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:53 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Sailor wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:53 pm All lives matter.

Not just ethnic lives.
Saw a good comparison the other day with people getting angry at an #AllBuildingsMatter has tag on Twitter the other day, on the anniversary of 9/11.

It's akin to what you are saying though.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:54 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
And we're up to 6 pages now so we can leave this one now.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:02 pm
by tuffers#1



It seems Bigots in the U.S dont care .

Glad we have Clubs who would ban those sho did this here .

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:06 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:33 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:19 pm Speaking of taking the knee, came across this image the other day

Image
That made me laugh !
AR in that get up is giving me a reaction too.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:07 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Apple Wumble wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:53 pm
Sailor wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:53 pm All lives matter.

Not just ethnic lives.
Saw a good comparison the other day with people getting angry at an #AllBuildingsMatter has tag on Twitter the other day, on the anniversary of 9/11.

It's akin to what you are saying though.
:lol:

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:10 pm
by Ornchurch
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:19 pm Speaking of taking the knee, came across this image the other day

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Boris's Bitches :lol:

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:13 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
We’re all Boris’ bitches unfortunately

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:17 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:41 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.

"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.

The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.

Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.
Except Minneapolis has already voted to dismantle their police department. It's one of the reason's why the Democrats will lose this forthcoming November election. They seem to have completely lost the plot.
Didnt they say dismantle as it is now &
Replace it with something new ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2/06/07/us/minn ... olish.html
I heard they want social workers. WTF . By the way, your link said “Page not found “

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:20 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Sailor wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:53 pm All lives matter.

Not just ethnic lives.
Apparently not . A woman got shot dead in America for saying that very thing

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:22 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:17 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:41 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm

Except Minneapolis has already voted to dismantle their police department. It's one of the reason's why the Democrats will lose this forthcoming November election. They seem to have completely lost the plot.
Didnt they say dismantle as it is now &
Replace it with something new ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2/06/07/us/minn ... olish.html
I heard they want social workers. WTF . By the way, your link said “Page not found “
New York times article , It stated they would Dismantle the way Police training was done
With a thorough review on the Entire police system & replacement with a New Policing Force .

You heard ?
Social workers ?

Got any reputable links

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:25 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:22 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:17 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:41 pm

Didnt they say dismantle as it is now &
Replace it with something new ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2/06/07/us/minn ... olish.html
I heard they want social workers. WTF . By the way, your link said “Page not found “
New York times article , It stated they would Dismantle the way Police training was done
With a thorough review on the Entire police system & replacement with a New Policing Force .

You heard ?
Social workers ?

Got any reputable links


I’m at work at the moment. I’ll take a look tonight to see where I read it. Anyway, I wouldn’t believe anything in that rag . They’ve changed their tune because it was definitely abolishing police departments . The Democrats have seen how unpopular that is and are now trying to say it means something different

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:27 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:25 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:22 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:17 pm

I heard they want social workers. WTF . By the way, your link said “Page not found “
New York times article , It stated they would Dismantle the way Police training was done
With a thorough review on the Entire police system & replacement with a New Policing Force .

You heard ?
Social workers ?

Got any reputable links


I’m at work at the moment. I’ll take a look tonight to see where I read it
Slainte

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:16 pm
by Sid Bishop
RedO wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:06 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:33 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:19 pm Speaking of taking the knee, came across this image the other day

Image
That made me laugh !
AR in that get up is giving me a reaction too.
Language Timothy !

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:40 pm
by PutneyO
Is this Taking The Knee thing now a permanent pre-match ritual ?

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:38 pm
by Adz
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:22 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:17 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:41 pm

Didnt they say dismantle as it is now &
Replace it with something new ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2/06/07/us/minn ... olish.html
I heard they want social workers. WTF . By the way, your link said “Page not found “
New York times article , It stated they would Dismantle the way Police training was done
With a thorough review on the Entire police system & replacement with a New Policing Force .

You heard ?
Social workers ?

Got any reputable links
It's quite heartening to see a government tackle a failed system rather than just leave it in the too hard bucket. If I lived there they'd get my vote.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:41 pm
by tuffers#1
Something similar has been done in the U.K as the R.U.C Was
Abolished & P.S.N.I came into being

One a corrupt organisation allowed to fester from the early 70s until.it was disbanded &
Replaced by a far from perfect force but with much more of an even hand.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:52 am
by RedDwarf 1881
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:27 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:25 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:22 pm

New York times article , It stated they would Dismantle the way Police training was done
With a thorough review on the Entire police system & replacement with a New Policing Force .

You heard ?
Social workers ?

Got any reputable links


I’m at work at the moment. I’ll take a look tonight to see where I read it
Slainte

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:47 am
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:52 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:27 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:25 pm


I’m at work at the moment. I’ll take a look tonight to see where I read it
Slainte
So they were starting a conversation .

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:09 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Yeah , on replacing the police with social workers. God help them

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:07 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:09 am Yeah , on replacing the police with social workers. God help them
Yeah, dont bother trying anything new. The current system seems to be working perfectly.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:13 am
by tuffers#1
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:07 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:09 am Yeah , on replacing the police with social workers. God help them
Yeah, dont bother trying anything new. The current system seems to be working perfectly.
Indeed

The Land of the free has the most locked up people in the world .

Its a massive money making buisness from top to bottom in the U.S

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:15 am
by Adz
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:13 am
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:07 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:09 am Yeah , on replacing the police with social workers. God help them
Yeah, dont bother trying anything new. The current system seems to be working perfectly.
Indeed

The Land of the free has the most locked up people in the world .

Its a massive money making buisness from top to bottom in the U.S
Yeah, one of the failures of unfettered capitalism

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:18 am
by tuffers#1
Adz wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:15 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:13 am
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:07 am

Yeah, dont bother trying anything new. The current system seems to be working perfectly.
Indeed

The Land of the free has the most locked up people in the world .

Its a massive money making buisness from top to bottom in the U.S
Yeah, one of the failures of unfettered capitalism
Indeed ,
Funny how so many forget that the Police were set up to protect the
Rich & to keep the poor down , those common working class types
From places like the east end . The Rich didnt want that type of
scum taking there wealth & so instructed Peel to defend them .

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:24 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:07 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:09 am Yeah , on replacing the police with social workers. God help them
Yeah, dont bother trying anything new. The current system seems to be working perfectly.
What happens if these social workers come under fire and shot ?