Expecting Bad News........

Chat about Leyton Orient (or anything else)

Moderator: Long slender neck

User avatar
Thor
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:27 pm
Location: Asgard
Has thanked: 584 times
Been thanked: 1348 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Thor »

🤣🤣🤣

Yeah its not like dis to be all negative now is it?
gshaw
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 8153
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
Has thanked: 3663 times
Been thanked: 1866 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by gshaw »

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:32 am
gshaw wrote: Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:20 pm
Correct, our favourite source EFL Hub!
So why have a sulk about a 36 year old winger then instead of pouring cold water on it like you did when they linked us to someone decent?
More of a semi sarcastic jibe at there even being a consideration of signing a second nearly 40 y/o wide player. Jobi has been with us a while so fair enough but not a second one please.
User avatar
Disoriented
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 6534
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:06 pm
Location: Valhalla
Awards: Idiot of the year 2020
Has thanked: 509 times
Been thanked: 305 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Disoriented »

The Big Shot wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:19 am
Disoriented wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:57 am I have a bad feeling about all this.
But at least if it doesn't go according to plan, you can tell us you was right and that your ego will still be intact and you can claim the cerdit for being right.

At least you won't need to change your agenda mid summer.

I hope you're right, I don't like seeing a fellow big shot being proven wrong.
Ah, the personal attacks again. Seeing as you have nothing original, relevant or prescient to state, it is good to see the return of your default setting.

You’re no big shot, fella, just one of those friendless types who desperately desire to ‘join the club’.

Sad really.
The Big Shot
Fresh Alias
Posts: 351
Joined: Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:25 pm
Has thanked: 319 times
Been thanked: 175 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by The Big Shot »

Disoriented wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:01 am
The Big Shot wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:19 am
Disoriented wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:57 am I have a bad feeling about all this.
But at least if it doesn't go according to plan, you can tell us you was right and that your ego will still be intact and you can claim the cerdit for being right.

At least you won't need to change your agenda mid summer.

I hope you're right, I don't like seeing a fellow big shot being proven wrong.
Ah, the personal attacks again. Seeing as you have nothing original, relevant or prescient to state, it is good to see the return of your default setting.

You’re no big shot, fella, just one of those friendless types who desperately desire to ‘join the club’.

Sad really.
Has anyone ever told you, how great you are? You're never wrong about anything, I admire much about how you've never been wrong about anything on here, lets hope this continues :)
gshaw
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 8153
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
Has thanked: 3663 times
Been thanked: 1866 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by gshaw »

One down, how many to go...
User avatar
Rich Tea Wellin
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 11211
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:01 pm
Has thanked: 4808 times
Been thanked: 3502 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Rich Tea Wellin »

If only Coulson, Clay and Ling hadn't been given extensions and we'd be happily waving them goodbye so we could bring in some decent replacements...
User avatar
Disoriented
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 6534
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:06 pm
Location: Valhalla
Awards: Idiot of the year 2020
Has thanked: 509 times
Been thanked: 305 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Disoriented »

Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:41 pm If only Coulson, Clay and Ling hadn't been given extensions and we'd be happily waving them goodbye so we could bring in some decent replacements...
Correct. Laughable now and especially so if Ruel goes too (inevitable) and Cisse signs elsewhere (inevitable - Ebou mark 2).

No need to worry though as we have resigned Jobi after his magnificent 20 min cameo this season.
User avatar
Thor
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:27 pm
Location: Asgard
Has thanked: 584 times
Been thanked: 1348 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Thor »

Justin wanted to give clay and coulson a contract for what they did in the promotion season and I wasn’t going to argue then and I wouldn’t now. He was right, what happened after was disappointing in the extreme. I don’t think ling was part of that, he old man stitched that one up like taking Alabi off the list when Justin wanted him gone.

As much as I love the club, what the owners have done, things just ain’t right in the club overall on he playing side of things.
User avatar
Long slender neck
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 14905
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
Has thanked: 2620 times
Been thanked: 3436 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Long slender neck »

Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:41 pm If only Coulson, Clay and Ling hadn't been given extensions and we'd be happily waving them goodbye so we could bring in some decent replacements...
Why would we get rid of Clay when he was player of the season?
User avatar
Rich Tea Wellin
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 11211
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:01 pm
Has thanked: 4808 times
Been thanked: 3502 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Rich Tea Wellin »

Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:01 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:41 pm If only Coulson, Clay and Ling hadn't been given extensions and we'd be happily waving them goodbye so we could bring in some decent replacements...
Why would we get rid of Clay when he was player of the season?
You like that player of the season line don’t you?

He was decent at the back end of that season. If anyone would put him above Bonne, Koroma, marv, Jobi, Widdowson that season they are blind or stupid.

Either way - that was in a league lower. And we gave him 2 years. Have some foresight. Same with Coulson really.
User avatar
Long slender neck
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 14905
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:13 am
Has thanked: 2620 times
Been thanked: 3436 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Long slender neck »

Oh God, it must be Ling bashing season again.

I think Clay has proved himself in Lg2. Coulson probably a touch slow. Reluctant to judge anyone too harshly considering the events of last summer.
User avatar
tuffers#1
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 9998
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:11 pm
Awards: Boarder of the year 2020 #1 Wordle cheat
Has thanked: 6291 times
Been thanked: 2728 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by tuffers#1 »

Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:05 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:01 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:41 pm If only Coulson, Clay and Ling hadn't been given extensions and we'd be happily waving them goodbye so we could bring in some decent replacements...
Why would we get rid of Clay when he was player of the season?
You like that player of the season line don’t you?

He was decent at the back end of that season. If anyone would put him above Bonne, Koroma, marv, Jobi, Widdowson that season they are blind or stupid.

Either way - that was in a league lower. And we gave him 2 years. Have some foresight. Same with Coulson really.
So Justin was wrong ?
User avatar
Millennial Snowflake
Tiresome troll
Tiresome troll
Posts: 1329
Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:50 pm
Has thanked: 528 times
Been thanked: 423 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Millennial Snowflake »

Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:05 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:01 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:41 pm If only Coulson, Clay and Ling hadn't been given extensions and we'd be happily waving them goodbye so we could bring in some decent replacements...
Why would we get rid of Clay when he was player of the season?
You like that player of the season line don’t you?

He was decent at the back end of that season. If anyone would put him above Bonne, Koroma, marv, Jobi, Widdowson that season they are blind or stupid.

Either way - that was in a league lower. And we gave him 2 years. Have some foresight. Same with Coulson really.
I guess most of our squad was blind and stupid then as they’re the ones who voted him player of the season.

Offering Clay only one year after the season he had would have been a bit of an insult - had we done that and he left for a two-year deal elsewhere, everyone would have been up in arms at the club for not giving him what he wanted

Coulson I agree struggles a bit at this level, but clearly a good character to have around and a positive dressing room influence. He’ll be fine to have as a bit-part player, which I think he will be once we sign a CB.
User avatar
Rich Tea Wellin
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 11211
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:01 pm
Has thanked: 4808 times
Been thanked: 3502 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Rich Tea Wellin »

tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:29 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:05 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:01 pm

Why would we get rid of Clay when he was player of the season?
You like that player of the season line don’t you?

He was decent at the back end of that season. If anyone would put him above Bonne, Koroma, marv, Jobi, Widdowson that season they are blind or stupid.

Either way - that was in a league lower. And we gave him 2 years. Have some foresight. Same with Coulson really.
So Justin was wrong ?
Did you see Clay last season? Not up to league two so I’ll let you decide.
gshaw
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 8153
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
Has thanked: 3663 times
Been thanked: 1866 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by gshaw »

Clay is fine alongside a quality ball-winning CM, as we saw with Cissé. When asked to be that midfield destroyer he seriously struggles.
LittleMate
Regular
Regular
Posts: 3310
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:03 pm
Has thanked: 1736 times
Been thanked: 938 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by LittleMate »

Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:06 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:29 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:05 pm

You like that player of the season line don’t you?

He was decent at the back end of that season. If anyone would put him above Bonne, Koroma, marv, Jobi, Widdowson that season they are blind or stupid.

Either way - that was in a league lower. And we gave him 2 years. Have some foresight. Same with Coulson really.
So Justin was wrong ?
Did you see Clay last season? Not up to league two so I’ll let you decide.
Clay was far from the worst player last season - and one that is needed if the team try to play a pressing game. He'd tell you he's not the most gifted, but he'd argue if you questioned his work ethic.
User avatar
tuffers#1
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 9998
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:11 pm
Awards: Boarder of the year 2020 #1 Wordle cheat
Has thanked: 6291 times
Been thanked: 2728 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by tuffers#1 »

Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:06 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:29 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:05 pm

You like that player of the season line don’t you?

He was decent at the back end of that season. If anyone would put him above Bonne, Koroma, marv, Jobi, Widdowson that season they are blind or stupid.

Either way - that was in a league lower. And we gave him 2 years. Have some foresight. Same with Coulson really.
So Justin was wrong ?
Did you see Clay last season? Not up to league two so I’ll let you decide.
I saw Clay & every other player filled with self belief & confidence by Justin Edinburgh, struggle without him.

I saw Ross do the same.

Lets see this season what happens & judge.
User avatar
Thor
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:27 pm
Location: Asgard
Has thanked: 584 times
Been thanked: 1348 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Thor »

Justin’s curve with the players was up, up and up.

Ross’s curve has been down, up, down and up.

The jury is out, I want him to succeed and only what he says and does and the signings made will determine if he is to be a success or failure. I hope he wins. But, I fear the worst.
Ronnie Hotdogs
MB Legend
MB Legend
Posts: 13069
Joined: Tue Sep 03, 2019 2:40 pm
Has thanked: 831 times
Been thanked: 2637 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by Ronnie Hotdogs »

Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:05 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:01 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:41 pm If only Coulson, Clay and Ling hadn't been given extensions and we'd be happily waving them goodbye so we could bring in some decent replacements...
Why would we get rid of Clay when he was player of the season?
You like that player of the season line don’t you?

He was decent at the back end of that season. If anyone would put him above Bonne, Koroma, marv, Jobi, Widdowson that season they are blind or stupid.

Either way - that was in a league lower. And we gave him 2 years. Have some foresight. Same with Coulson really.
Of the extensions, I would go along with both Coulson and Clay. Josh may have slipped from the first choice pairing but is still great to have as one of the four centre halves, no question. Clay is an extremely limited footballer, no question, but with a proper holding CM like Cisse behind him, he can run around like a loon in front of him and is effective.

It's the extensions to the likes of Ling, Brill, Dayton that should be questioned. The signing of Wright as well was an odd one when it was that CDM we needed all along.
PutneyO
Tiresome troll
Tiresome troll
Posts: 1481
Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:35 pm
Location: Putney
Has thanked: 1849 times
Been thanked: 240 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by PutneyO »

Next season is going to be like a long and unpleasant visit to the dentist
NuneatonO's
Tiresome troll
Tiresome troll
Posts: 1043
Joined: Thu May 02, 2019 12:14 am
Has thanked: 311 times
Been thanked: 245 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by NuneatonO's »

Clay to my mind, is a very good player (and a Midlands lad too).

At times last season, he did look as if he needed to shift up into a higher gear - but I'd be very disappointed if we lost him.
BiggsyMalone
Regular
Regular
Posts: 4553
Joined: Wed May 01, 2019 4:12 pm
Has thanked: 932 times
Been thanked: 990 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by BiggsyMalone »

Clay deserved a new contract and he’a better than Wright. I would have said keeping Coulson would bring Happe and Ekpiteta on but they didn’t improve last season and the whole defensive unit was a shambles
gshaw
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 8153
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:24 pm
Has thanked: 3663 times
Been thanked: 1866 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by gshaw »

All comes down to that defensive CM. We won NL in spite of having one, not because of it but you can't get away with that in L2, as we saw with most visitors to BR running riot in midfield prior to Cissé's arrival.

I have no doubt JE would've been looking to sign one given we released Lee and Lawless but only had Wright come in. Trying to put Marsh there was a classic Ling signing,. It's a real blind spot for him for some reason.
User avatar
tuffers#1
Boardin' 24/7
Boardin' 24/7
Posts: 9998
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:11 pm
Awards: Boarder of the year 2020 #1 Wordle cheat
Has thanked: 6291 times
Been thanked: 2728 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by tuffers#1 »

Disoriented wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:54 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:41 pm If only Coulson, Clay and Ling hadn't been given extensions and we'd be happily waving them goodbye so we could bring in some decent replacements...
Correct. Laughable now and especially so if Ruel goes too (inevitable) and Cisse signs elsewhere (inevitable - Ebou mark 2).

No need to worry though as we have resigned Jobi after his magnificent 20 min cameo this season.
Ebou mark 2
🤣😂
A Pedant
Fresh Alias
Posts: 541
Joined: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:24 pm
Has thanked: 186 times
Been thanked: 172 times

Re: Expecting Bad News........

Post by A Pedant »

Disoriented wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:54 pm if Ruel goes too (inevitable) and Cisse signs elsewhere (inevitable - Ebou mark 2).
Neither so inevitable after all, it turns out. :D

So in the end, only Ekpiteta didn't sign up, and he ran his contract down to move up a division.
Post Reply