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Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:43 pm
by slacker
A bit surprised, tbh. The other coaches & senior players must have been pretty unanimous with a thumbs down.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:46 pm
by BiggsyMalone
cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:26 pm
redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:47 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:07 pm
Been offline all afternoon getting my motor fixed, just logged in and wow it's all gone pete tong.
I'm not surprised, it was clear he lost the players from their languid performances, if the rumours are true of a bust up with danny the air at the training ground must have been toxic.
His tactics were inept, his lack of personality projection towards the players would have been an issue, and let's be honest not once either pitch side or in interviews did he look happy.
A poor appointment and let's hope that Danny, Jobi and Ross can give back the players the confidence, belief and the fun factor to their game.
I hope the rumours about Fletcher & Webb falling out are not true but if it is the case it illustrates the folly of insisting that the new Head Coach had to retain the existing staff. The new appointment, whoever it may be, must be given a free hand if the Board truly believe that they have got the right man to take the club forward.
What back room staff did Fletcher have? He was in charge of loan players! Since when does that include back room staff?
The issue isn't just Fletcher, it's any new manager coming in. The coaches have a tight bond with the players and if the coaches don't get on with the new manager's vision, then it won't work.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:52 pm
by Constantine
I think any experienced manager would be able to win over the coaches. As most of them have to do it when they go to a new club. Fletcher not being used to being the man in charge probably hasn't helped him.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:01 pm
by cockhat
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:46 pm
cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:26 pm
redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:47 pm
I hope the rumours about Fletcher & Webb falling out are not true but if it is the case it illustrates the folly of insisting that the new Head Coach had to retain the existing staff. The new appointment, whoever it may be, must be given a free hand if the Board truly believe that they have got the right man to take the club forward.
What back room staff did Fletcher have? He was in charge of loan players! Since when does that include back room staff?
The issue isn't just Fletcher, it's any new manager coming in. The coaches have a tight bond with the players and if the coaches don't get on with the new manager's vision, then it won't work.
Then Ling should check with them first!
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:38 pm
by Adz
I'm astonished the board gave CF so little time. It must have been a really toxic atmosphere with him at the helm.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:51 pm
by Chicken Dhansak
It sounds like, from various comments on here, that some of the players are holding any possible new manager to ransom, if
they don't get on with the new guy.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:01 am
by StockholmO
That'll learn him for hacking the board.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:36 am
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Adz wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:38 pm
I'm astonished the board gave CF so little time. It must have been a really toxic atmosphere with him at the helm.
Also I feel the timing ahead of this game was deliberate. I imagine a full house and a toxic atmosphere. Would not have been a nice place to be or make a good impression on potential new fans.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:45 am
by Thor
Valid point SF, but it was clear he had to go and I guess the talks and the to and throwing between lawyers on an acceptable nda determined when it happened.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:14 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Constantine wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:52 pm
I think any experienced manager would be able to win over the coaches. As most of them have to do it when they go to a new club. Fletcher not being used to being the man in charge probably hasn't helped him.
It’s this.
You can guarantee that when Justin walked in, the coaching staff got behind him straight away. None of them would have dared act up with him.
We need a strong, experienced man manager to come in and take on this situation.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:23 am
by Thor
Exactly we need a manager not another coach under the current structure.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:27 am
by Mr. Peanutbutter
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:36 am
Adz wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:38 pm
I'm astonished the board gave CF so little time. It must have been a really toxic atmosphere with him at the helm.
Also I feel the timing ahead of this game was deliberate. I imagine a full house and a toxic atmosphere. Would not have been a nice place to be or make a good impression on potential new fans.
Or it was coincidental and the timing was because of another training ground bust up during the week...
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:50 am
by Pandy
I heard he tried to loan out the whole team
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:53 am
by Thor
Do tell me where and when this bust up happened and what you've heard please?
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:33 am
by redintheface
Constantine wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:52 pm
I think any experienced manager would be able to win over the coaches. As most of them have to do it when they go to a new club. Fletcher not being used to being the man in charge probably hasn't helped him.
Not sure you’re right there tbh. Davis was extremely experienced and failed to do so.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:00 pm
by Hedmans Header
Like a great many i celebrated when he left the club,
but now cant help but think the fella had an idea what
was wrong with the club..
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:24 pm
by Disoriented
Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:00 pm
Like a great many i celebrated when he left the club,
but now cant help but think the fella had an idea what
was wrong with the club..
Aye. It is a four letter word.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:39 pm
by DonaldRocks
Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:00 pm
Like a great many i celebrated when he left the club,
but now cant help but think the fella had an idea what
was wrong with the club..
Nailed it.
Re: Fletcher SACKED, so to speak.
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:56 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
RoryRocks wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:39 pm
Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:00 pm
Like a great many i celebrated when he left the club,
but now cant help but think the fella had an idea what
was wrong with the club..
Nailed it.
And this is the dilemma . What if a new manager comes in and identifies the same problems , what happens next ? That's why I can't see any experienced manager being appointed anytime too soon.