Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:58 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:55 pm If Carl Fletcher didn’t know where are weaknesses are, he does now. It’s now down to him to try and put things right

Embarrassing. I doubt he can.

Maybe he's going to need a couple of players on loan. When does the loan window open ?

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:16 pm

Rambling Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:48 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:35 pm

This is the same set of players in the same formation that have just started to get things together, 10 points from 12 isn’t it?

The only difference is Fletcher was in charge tonight.

So if he hasn't changed anything what's he done wrong?

No idea mate.

Only the players can tell you that.

Maybe we simply met a better team with better players .

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:45 pm Just got in from the game...took me an hour and a half to drive the 280 miles......I borrowed Spens car!!!

Nooooooo, im joking, i didnt go, too far. followed the game on twitter.

Terrible result, but we drew the second half 0-0. Same line up as at Grimsby...its hard to understand how that happened.

Last comment on the terrible decision by the ref not to rule out their first goal for handball...it was as blatant, as its possible to be.

If we had VAR in our league, it wouldnt have stood.

I knew you were lying and on a wind up as Spen’s car would have done it in 30 mins!!

On a more serious note, I would not want VAR in our league, I personally think it’s killing the premier league.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:24 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:16 pm

Rambling Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:48 pm

So if he hasn't changed anything what's he done wrong?

No idea mate.

Only the players can tell you that.

Maybe we simply met a better team with better players .

The team is decent enough to cope with anything this league has to offer. However, I’d bring in 1 maybe 2 players max to cover and strengthen our deficiencies.

Tonight we had an off night against a decent team, trouble is you can carry one maybe two players at a max, but we had virtually the whole team missing in the first half, damage done, game over.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:26 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:45 pm Just got in from the game...took me an hour and a half to drive the 280 miles......I borrowed Spens car!!!

Nooooooo, im joking, i didnt go, too far. followed the game on twitter.

Terrible result, but we drew the second half 0-0. Same line up as at Grimsby...its hard to understand how that happened.

Last comment on the terrible decision by the ref not to rule out their first goal for handball...it was as blatant, as its possible to be.

If we had VAR in our league, it wouldnt have stood.

I knew you were lying and on a wind up as Spen’s car would have done it in 30 mins!!

On a more serious note, I would not want VAR in our league, I personally think it’s killing the premier league.

Too right, the EPL implementation of VAR has been an absolute shambles. Keep it well away from us please.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:26 pm

I knew you were lying and on a wind up as Spen’s car would have done it in 30 mins!!

On a more serious note, I would not want VAR in our league, I personally think it’s killing the premier league.

Good idea for prediction League points.How quick could Spens Ferrari do it in?

Badly roughed up in the first half, but in truth they only scored twice. Second half we kept them out and could have scored twice ourselves. That would have been 2-2 and we'd all be saying it was a good result and a good comeback. That's not to say there isn't room for improvement from the squad we have - we know they can do better, but nights like that happen to all teams. On now to new management and Carlisle, and making sure their poor run of form doesn't end saturday.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:30 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:24 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:16 pm

No idea mate.

Only the players can tell you that.

Maybe we simply met a better team with better players .

The team is decent enough to cope with anything this league has to offer. However, I’d bring in 1 maybe 2 players max to cover and strengthen our deficiencies.

Tonight we had an off night against a decent team, trouble is you can carry one maybe two players at a max, but we had virtually the whole team missing in the first half, damage done, game over.

Why was the whole team missing though?

We're coming off the back of a really good run. We've got a new man coming into the changing room to head things up properly. The players should have been properly up for this. Why were they not?

RedO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:32 am

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:30 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:24 pm

Maybe we simply met a better team with better players .

The team is decent enough to cope with anything this league has to offer. However, I’d bring in 1 maybe 2 players max to cover and strengthen our deficiencies.

Tonight we had an off night against a decent team, trouble is you can carry one maybe two players at a max, but we had virtually the whole team missing in the first half, damage done, game over.

Why was the whole team missing though?

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Delayed owing to a points failure outside Exeter St Davids Station

RedO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:32 am

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:30 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:24 pm

Maybe we simply met a better team with better players .

The team is decent enough to cope with anything this league has to offer. However, I’d bring in 1 maybe 2 players max to cover and strengthen our deficiencies.

Tonight we had an off night against a decent team, trouble is you can carry one maybe two players at a max, but we had virtually the whole team missing in the first half, damage done, game over.

Why was the whole team missing though?

We're coming off the back of a really good run. We've got a new man coming into the changing room to head things up properly. The players should have been properly up for this. Why were they not?

The first goal properly goes against us, the players probably feel aggrieved, lose concentration and mistakes happen.

Then you have the midfield which to me was not at the races in the first half, not enough pressure, not closing down quick enough allowing them too much time and space and then rest becomes history.

In no way do I think its fletch's fault nor the coaching teams, it's just one of those days when it's not gonna go for you and it's a bad day at the office.

So back to the training ground, look at the videos again, which they probably did on the coach back (training team, not the players) sit down analyse and put on sessions to reflect patterns of play that need working on.

We go again.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:06 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:04 pm Imagine if they gave him a whole week with the players instead of 2 days. Well done to the board

That comment is even more stupid than your name. Only assume you must be very young or drunk

Just watched Fletcher's post match interview and he made a point of saying he's only had "3 hours on the training pitch with them". I'll wait for your apology.

cymruO wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:35 am Badly roughed up in the first half, but in truth they only scored twice. Second half we kept them out and could have scored twice ourselves. That would have been 2-2 and we'd all be saying it was a good result and a good comeback. That's not to say there isn't room for improvement from the squad we have - we know they can do better, but nights like that happen to all teams. On now to new management and Carlisle, and making sure their poor run of form doesn't end saturday.

Is that true,though?

I heard they took off their three best players.Actually I don't know though as they made their first substitution on 64 then 68 and then 76 mins.