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Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:28 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:51 pm If Fletcher is chosen, it will be a terrible decision, but I guarantee the next day we will have a video from Ling, spouting the usual bollocks, in his dreary monotone voice justifying it
I can't believe a better candidate wasn't available.

Unless you are Mystic Meg , then I would suggest that only time will tell if the decision is “ terrible” or not. Hopefully you will at least give the bloke an opportunity to prove himself? As to better candidates being available then you may well be right, however we don’t know if they were interested in applying especially given the number of vacancies that have cropped up in the three weeks or so since RE decided to give notice.A lot of names have been bandied about on betting websites but unless you have inside knowledge we’ll never know who actually made the interview stage will we, because no one at the club is likely to divulge it.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:31 pm**

redintheface wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:28 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:51 pm If Fletcher is chosen, it will be a terrible decision, but I guarantee the next day we will have a video from Ling, spouting the usual bollocks, in his dreary monotone voice justifying it
I can't believe a better candidate wasn't available.
Unless you are Mystic Meg , then I would suggest that only time will tell if the decision is “ terrible” or not. Hopefully you will at least give the bloke an opportunity to prove himself? As to better candidates being available then you may well be right, however we don’t know if they were interested in applying especially given the number of vacancies that have cropped up in the three weeks or so since RE decided to give notice.A lot of names have been bandied about on betting websites but unless you have inside knowledge we’ll never know who actually made the interview stage will we, because no one at the club is likely to divulge it.

The chances are this is a terrible appointment.
He ticks non of the boxes and almost certainly was not first or forth choice.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:38 pm**

If he's the best of 40 applicant's it don't say much for the others ............ ( providing it is his gig )

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:41 pm**

BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:38 pm If he's the best of 40 applicant's it don't say much for the others ............ ( providing it is his gig )

That’s why I didn’t apply.
Over qualified.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:47 pm**

Byways1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:41 pm
BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:38 pm If he's the best of 40 applicant's it don't say much for the others ............ ( providing it is his gig )
That’s why I didn’t apply.
Over qualified.

As most managers head coaches are.described by some section of supporters
As CLUELESS IDIOTS , i can understand why you are over qualified .

GORMLESS CLUELESS IDIOT springs to mind

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:14 pm**

Did a bit of Googling on the role of loan manager. Crucial role in transitioning players from the U21s/23s to the first team. Helping players who are promising but not quite good enough for the Premier league to find playing experience and nurturing them through that process. Sounds to me like relevant experience for managing in League 2.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:16 pm**

Im wondering how much the thing about having to work with the coaches already here , limited the choice
most managers will always want to chose their own staff, often people they know and trust, rather than have coaches foisted upon them

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:16 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:51 pm If Fletcher is chosen, it will be a terrible decision, but I guarantee the next day we will have a video from Ling, spouting the usual bollocks, in his dreary monotone voice justifying it
I can't believe a better candidate wasn't available.

‘It will be a terrible decision”

And this is everything wrong with some of the cretinous fan base we’ve got. Some fans have such short memories.

It’s still only just over 2 years ago we were a non league club been run into the ground with nothing to it’s name but a couple of corner flags. It’s a little over 4 months since we’ve lost the possibly the best manager this club has ever had in the most tragic of ways, plus lost our two best strikers.

And yet despite this, we sit pretty much in mid table, as a football league club in where attending matches again at Brisbane Road is a fantastic experience once again. And that’s largely down to what those upstairs have achieved and put in place at this great club.

But an online alias apparently knows better to brand it a ‘terrible decision’ before the guys even started

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:19 pm**

Byways1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:31 pm
redintheface wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:28 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:51 pm If Fletcher is chosen, it will be a terrible decision, but I guarantee the next day we will have a video from Ling, spouting the usual bollocks, in his dreary monotone voice justifying it
I can't believe a better candidate wasn't available.
Unless you are Mystic Meg , then I would suggest that only time will tell if the decision is “ terrible” or not. Hopefully you will at least give the bloke an opportunity to prove himself? As to better candidates being available then you may well be right, however we don’t know if they were interested in applying especially given the number of vacancies that have cropped up in the three weeks or so since RE decided to give notice.A lot of names have been bandied about on betting websites but unless you have inside knowledge we’ll never know who actually made the interview stage will we, because no one at the club is likely to divulge it.
The chances are this is a terrible appointment.
He ticks non of the boxes and almost certainly was not first or forth choice.

I admit that there were others that I would have thought had more to offer but again, I have no idea who actually applied ( as opposed to appearing in the betting) and I don’t know what “ boxes” T&T and Ling Snr wanted ticked - I only know what I thought made sense in the club’s current circumstances. Presumably the new man will be the person who most closely matches what the owners and DoF feel is the right template to take the club forward and if that’s Carl Fletcher then so be it. Whatever our concerns may be it seems to me we should be open minded and give the bloke a chance.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:20 pm**

Jman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:16 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:51 pm If Fletcher is chosen, it will be a terrible decision, but I guarantee the next day we will have a video from Ling, spouting the usual bollocks, in his dreary monotone voice justifying it
I can't believe a better candidate wasn't available.
‘It will be a terrible decision”

And this is everything wrong with some of the cretinous fan base we’ve got. Some fans have such short memories.

It’s still only just over 2 years ago we were a non league club been run into the ground with nothing to it’s name but a couple of corner flags. It’s a little over 4 months since we’ve lost the possibly the best manager this club has ever had in the most tragic of ways, plus lost our two best strikers.

And yet despite this, we sit pretty much in mid table, as a football league club in where attending matches again at Brisbane Road is a fantastic experience once again. And that’s largely down to what those upstairs have achieved and put in place at this great club.

But an online alias apparently knows better to brand it a ‘terrible decision’ before the guys even started

Its called an opinion....you obviously have trouble with that!

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:23 pm**

Jman wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:16 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:51 pm If Fletcher is chosen, it will be a terrible decision, but I guarantee the next day we will have a video from Ling, spouting the usual bollocks, in his dreary monotone voice justifying it
I can't believe a better candidate wasn't available.
‘It will be a terrible decision”

And this is everything wrong with some of the cretinous fan base we’ve got. Some fans have such short memories.

It’s still only just over 2 years ago we were a non league club been run into the ground with nothing to it’s name but a couple of corner flags. It’s a little over 4 months since we’ve lost the possibly the best manager this club has ever had in the most tragic of ways, plus lost our two best strikers.

And yet despite this, we sit pretty much in mid table, as a football league club in where attending matches again at Brisbane Road is a fantastic experience once again. And that’s largely down to what those upstairs have achieved and put in place at this great club.

But an online alias apparently knows better to brand it a ‘terrible decision’ before the guys even started

How long are you going to trade on this fella? At what point in your opinion can opposition towards club decisions be made? When does it not become ‘cretinous’? I am curious about this point, as I can envisage you posting in 2042 ‘It’s still just over 25 years ago we were a non league club been (sic) run into the ground with nothing to it’s (sic) name but a couple of corner flags.’

Please clarify to help everyone going forward.

Cheers fella.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:25 pm**

Cheer up chaps, perhaps we will get Charlie Daniels on loan.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:26 pm**

Pandy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:25 pm Cheer up chaps, perhaps we will get Charlie Daniels on loan.

Now, wouldn’t that be something.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:42 pm**

I reckon we are still paying JE'S salary as im told we had no Keyman insurance in place. Obviously a lowish salary is on offer & would have put the likes of Adams, Parkindson from relocating. Fletcher is no doubt desperate for the job. Likeyly Porter has sounded out Charlie Daniels & Purches. I was told Gareth Barry had applied too. Would much have preferred SoL C. Potential Players would have respect for his playing career. Can you imagine Sol telling & helping our defenders to inprove at corners etc

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:47 pm**

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:42 pm I reckon we are still paying JE'S salary as im told we had no Keyman insurance in place. Obviously a lowish salary is on offer & would have put the likes of Adams, Parkindson from relocating. Fletcher is no doubt desperate for the job. Likeyly Porter has sounded out Charlie Daniels & Purches. I was told Gareth Barry had applied too. Would much have preferred SoL C. Potential Players would have respect for his playing career. Can you imagine Sol telling & helping our defenders to inprove at corners etc

No way would we be that amateur. Of course we would have had cover.

But even if we did not,why would we pay his salary? Presumably Justin was a very wealthy man and would have had his own life cover in place. If the owners still wanted to pay the rest of his salary, of course that wouldn’t come out of the existing wage budget.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:51 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:17 pm
one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:08 pm I'm certainly surprised in a way similar to how I might feel if I sh*t myself
Oh come on we've all done it when forcing out gas that surprisingly turns to a solid.

Just to clarify, the state of matter transfers from gas to liquid to solid.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:56 pm**

In 10 years time there will still be the Ling fanboys saying ‘how dare you, we were in the non-league 12 years ago’, you don’t have the right to criticise the board!

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:59 pm**

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:56 pm In 10 years time there will still be the Ling fanboys saying ‘how dare you, we were in the non-league 12 years ago’, you don’t have the right to criticise the board!

He’s achieved 1 promotion in 2 years thus far. That’s a pretty reasonable record.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:04 pm**

Byways1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:41 pm
BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:38 pm If he's the best of 40 applicant's it don't say much for the others ............ ( providing it is his gig )
That’s why I didn’t apply.
Over qualified.

You'll be in line to get the MK Dons job soon, the way they're going!

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:12 pm**

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:59 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:56 pm In 10 years time there will still be the Ling fanboys saying ‘how dare you, we were in the non-league 12 years ago’, you don’t have the right to criticise the board!
He’s achieved 1 promotion in 2 years thus far. That’s a pretty reasonable record.

No, the players and management have

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:32 pm**

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:12 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:59 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:56 pm In 10 years time there will still be the Ling fanboys saying ‘how dare you, we were in the non-league 12 years ago’, you don’t have the right to criticise the board!
He’s achieved 1 promotion in 2 years thus far. That’s a pretty reasonable record.
No, the players and management have

Um, he is the management.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:35 pm**

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:32 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:12 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:59 pm

He’s achieved 1 promotion in 2 years thus far. That’s a pretty reasonable record.
No, the players and management have
Um, he is the management.

He has nothing to do with picking the team that got us promoted, he is just the DOF !

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:36 pm**

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:35 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:32 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:12 pm
No, the players and management have
Um, he is the management.
He has nothing to do with picking the team that got us promoted, he is just the DOF !

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:43 pm**

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:12 pm
RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:59 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:56 pm In 10 years time there will still be the Ling fanboys saying ‘how dare you, we were in the non-league 12 years ago’, you don’t have the right to criticise the board!
He’s achieved 1 promotion in 2 years thus far. That’s a pretty reasonable record.
No, the players and management have

Ling ain’t got everything right but he can take a lot of the credit for our promotion. How can anybody question that?

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:57 pm**

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:51 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:17 pm
one o in huntingdon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:08 pm I'm certainly surprised in a way similar to how I might feel if I sh*t myself
Oh come on we've all done it when forcing out gas that surprisingly turns to a solid.
Just to clarify, the state of matter transfers from gas to liquid to solid.

Hmm. Interesting what if it was under high pressure would that make any difference?

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