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Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:14 pm

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:29 pm Let’s hope Happe & Ruel injuries are not serious.
Maybe Tues the 2 young Loanees will get their well overdue chance to impress RW, especially if Ruel is injured.
I just hope if Ruel is injured, RW doesn’t start with Piggot on Tues, if I was one of the Loanees, and Piggot was picked again ahead of me, I would be asking to go back to my club.

Oh f**k off.

Long overdue? They’ve been here 1 week and had what, 2 or 3 training sessions max with the squad.

I’m fully aware of Piggot limitations but if Ruel is out, he’s our only option.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:14 pm

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:29 pm Let’s hope Happe & Ruel injuries are not serious.
Maybe Tues the 2 young Loanees will get their well overdue chance to impress RW, especially if Ruel is injured.
I just hope if Ruel is injured, RW doesn’t start with Piggot on Tues, if I was one of the Loanees, and Piggot was picked again ahead of me, I would be asking to go back to my club.

Oh f**k off.

Long overdue? They’ve been here 1 week and had what, 2 or 3 training sessions max with the squad.

I’m fully aware of Piggot limitations but if Ruel is out, he’s our only option.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:08 pm You have to be a complete Dimwit to suggest Richie should have put on one of the kids up top.

Our forward line was inexperienced enough as it was with Ruel, ONeill and Shaqford.

PKM wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:55 pm Wonder how much experience Rooney had when he made his debut in the Premier League at 16?
Experience ain’t everything, as Pigott is proving every week.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:58 pm Second half a disaster tactically, not the first time Richie has ballsed up like this.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:58 pm Second half a disaster tactically, not the first time Richie has ballsed up like this.

Saying that, we held out until the final few minutes, but we couldn't get out our own half for the last 30.

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:48 pm We lost yesterday because Brynn, having had a great game, made a mistake. After they equalised the game completely changed and they were energised and really going for the win. If Brynn hadn’t made that mistake we probably would’ve won that game.

Much as I too don’t rate Pigott and what he brings to the table, it wasn’t because of him that we lost. Hence those banging on about not getting the “senior striker” in the window are also missing the point - maybe deliberately - as this bears no relevance to yesterday’s loss.

To repeat, we lost because of a goalkeeper’s cock up which was such a shame as he’d been excellent. He has been getting better and better recently so let’s hope he won’t repeat this for a while.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:23 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:48 pm We lost yesterday because Brynn, having had a great game, made a mistake. After they equalised the game completely changed and they were energised and really going for the win. If Brynn hadn’t made that mistake we probably would’ve won that game.

Much as I too don’t rate Pigott and what he brings to the table, it wasn’t because of him that we lost. Hence those banging on about not getting the “senior striker” in the window are also missing the point - maybe deliberately - as this bears no relevance to yesterday’s loss.

To repeat, we lost because of a goalkeeper’s cock up which was such a shame as he’d been excellent. He has been getting better and better recently so let’s hope he won’t repeat this for a while.

I know people like to think of things in simplistic, binary terms but it’s more complex than that.

The defence and GK were under continual pressure. We were unable to relieve that pressure by keeping hold of the ball. When that happens, momentum builds and at some point, cracks will appear, mistakes will be made and goals will be conceded.

Pigs clearly contributed to that.

For what it’s worth, James let his man run off him and is as culpable as Brynn. Bur that will happen when under the cosh for as long as we were.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:27 pm Good point, don’t bring anyone in because they might bomb.

Another consequence of us not bringing in a senior striker appears to be another injury to Ruel….

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:51 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:23 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:48 pm We lost yesterday because Brynn, having had a great game, made a mistake. After they equalised the game completely changed and they were energised and really going for the win. If Brynn hadn’t made that mistake we probably would’ve won that game.

Much as I too don’t rate Pigott and what he brings to the table, it wasn’t because of him that we lost. Hence those banging on about not getting the “senior striker” in the window are also missing the point - maybe deliberately - as this bears no relevance to yesterday’s loss.

To repeat, we lost because of a goalkeeper’s cock up which was such a shame as he’d been excellent. He has been getting better and better recently so let’s hope he won’t repeat this for a while.

I know people like to think of things in simplistic, binary terms but it’s more complex than that.

The defence and GK were under continual pressure. We were unable to relieve that pressure by keeping hold of the ball. When that happens, momentum builds and at some point, cracks will appear, mistakes will be made and goals will be conceded.

Pigs clearly contributed to that.

For what it’s worth, James let his man run off him and is as culpable as Brynn. Bur that will happen when under the cosh for as long as we were.

I know some people like to overcomplicate things in order to match their agenda i.e. that not getting in a senior striker was a contributor to our loss but the fact is whilst we were, indeed, under pressure yesterday we were keeping them out. An unfortunate mistake from Brynn let them in and the rest is history. I agree that Pigott is a liability. I agree that he doesn't hold the ball up front. But it's a stretch to suggest that the lack of a new "senior striker" to replace him would have changed anything. I mean, it's not as if we've brought in senior pro's who've bombed before is it? Even well thought of senior pro's have failed down the O's. As for Rich Tea liking your post - hehe.

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:16 pm

Jeremy Bentham wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:12 pm

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:32 pm

Unfortunately this is why we needed to bring in an experienced forward. Perfect situation to bring on someone that has a bit about themselves and can hold the ball. Not a 19 year old kid with no professional games coming on against a big back 3

The point is, those young loanees would offer more than Pigott, one time, Moncs ran with the ball and gave it to Pigott in the penalty area and he just stood there not knowing what to do and the defender just came and took it off him. I'm sure one of the loanees would have done better.

I don’t disagree that Pigott is a waste of space. The point is we could have had an experienced pro instead of two young loanees, who Richie doesn’t trust.

Jeremy Bentham wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:35 pm

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:16 pm

Jeremy Bentham wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:12 pm

The point is, those young loanees would offer more than Pigott, one time, Moncs ran with the ball and gave it to Pigott in the penalty area and he just stood there not knowing what to do and the defender just came and took it off him. I'm sure one of the loanees would have done better.

I don’t disagree that Pigott is a waste of space. The point is we could have had an experienced pro instead of two young loanees, who Richie doesn’t trust.

Khayon Edwards starting tonight.