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Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:13 am
by BiggsyMalone
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:24 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:19 pm
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:15 pm
RW knew the budget when he signed a new contract in the summer and was happy with it - there wont be any new money without moving people out
and he knew that two a couple of weeks ago when he spoke to Dulcet Dave. We need to move out two or three squad players and bring in a couple of loans until the end of the season. I imagine Cooper will go back to Swansea and they will have to try and move on a couple more. Not easy but if we haven't got the money not a lot we can do.
Money is there. They just don’t want to put their hands in their pockets.
The budget has been spent - They put their hands in their pockets every week to keep the club running. who do you think covers our weekly losses.
If Orient were around the relegation zone, money would be found
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:20 am
by Hoover Attack
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:24 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:19 pm
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:15 pm
RW knew the budget when he signed a new contract in the summer and was happy with it - there wont be any new money without moving people out
and he knew that two a couple of weeks ago when he spoke to Dulcet Dave. We need to move out two or three squad players and bring in a couple of loans until the end of the season. I imagine Cooper will go back to Swansea and they will have to try and move on a couple more. Not easy but if we haven't got the money not a lot we can do.
Money is there. They just don’t want to put their hands in their pockets.
The budget has been spent - They put their hands in their pockets every week to keep the club running. who do you think covers our weekly losses.
But the budget doesn't know what our injury list is going to look like. It has to be adjusted accordingly. We've had horrific problems so far, we've currently got 3 forward players out leaving us with just 4 players (plus Moncur) for the 4 forward positions.
Our multi millionaire investors are not putting their money in every week, by the way. Their investment was agreed up front. They now need to decide if they want to protect their investment or not.
As others have said, they know that we'll still be L1 next season however little or however much they put in, so they won't be digging that deep.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:36 am
by Story of O
Are we really so certain we are safe from relegation? Not strengthening the squad could be a mistake
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:42 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Richie said we haven't got much to spend in the transfer window but that means we do have a little left in the budget . If we can only afford one decent player I'd rather we brought in a winger . Put Agyei more central .
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:45 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:36 am
Are we really so certain we are safe from relegation? Not strengthening the squad could be a mistake
It would be a big mistake because you can bet all our rivals will be strengthening during the transfer window .
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:21 pm
by Top of the JES
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:20 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:24 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:19 pm
Money is there. They just don’t want to put their hands in their pockets.
The budget has been spent - They put their hands in their pockets every week to keep the club running. who do you think covers our weekly losses.
But the budget doesn't know what our injury list is going to look like. It has to be adjusted accordingly. We've had horrific problems so far, we've currently got 3 forward players out leaving us with just 4 players (plus Moncur) for the 4 forward positions.
Our multi millionaire investors are not putting their money in every week, by the way. Their investment was agreed up front. They now need to decide if they want to protect their investment or not.
As others have said, they know that we'll still be L1 next season however little or however much they put in, so they won't be digging that deep.
The budget has already been adjusted upwards once as confirmed by Travis. We need a couple of decent loans and we will be fine. Just out of interest who do you think is going to cover the likely £2 million loss this season the investors agreed to put in but at the end of the day Travis and Teague put in the Lions share.
Why do you constantly refer to to our investors like it’s loose change to them - it’s not they already put millions in they are not obliged to keep doing so. A few tweaks to the squad at this time of year makes sense we will be lucky to get players we want because this window is the most difficult to work in.
Hopefully a couple of decent loans and a more substantial rebuild in summer.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:57 pm
by Chelmsford Swimmer
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:45 am
Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:36 am
Are we really so certain we are safe from relegation? Not strengthening the squad could be a mistake
It would be a big mistake because you can bet all our rivals will be strengthening during the transfer window .
I love the concept that a transfer window opens, players reshuffle and everybody gets better. Doesn't work like that, some teams lose assets and gets worse. Not sure why our current squad that has got us half way up League 1 won't be capable of avoiding the bottom 4, but then again we could just spend spend spend like some suggest just to make sure.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:01 pm
by PoundhillO
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:21 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 11:20 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:24 pm
The budget has been spent - They put their hands in their pockets every week to keep the club running. who do you think covers our weekly losses.
But the budget doesn't know what our injury list is going to look like. It has to be adjusted accordingly. We've had horrific problems so far, we've currently got 3 forward players out leaving us with just 4 players (plus Moncur) for the 4 forward positions.
Our multi millionaire investors are not putting their money in every week, by the way. Their investment was agreed up front. They now need to decide if they want to protect their investment or not.
As others have said, they know that we'll still be L1 next season however little or however much they put in, so they won't be digging that deep.
The budget has already been adjusted upwards once as confirmed by Travis. We need a couple of decent loans and we will be fine. Just out of interest who do you think is going to cover the likely £2 million loss this season the investors agreed to put in but at the end of the day Travis and Teague put in the Lions share.
Why do you constantly refer to to our investors like it’s loose change to them - it’s not they already put millions in they are not obliged to keep doing so. A few tweaks to the squad at this time of year makes sense we will be lucky to get players we want because this window is the most difficult to work in.
Hopefully a couple of decent loans and a more substantial rebuild in summer.
The short and long term risk of relegation and all that entails means that enough funds must be forthcoming for players that RW wants and not for who ML and the so so called transfer committee foists upon RW.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:06 pm
by Chelmsford Swimmer
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:01 pm
The short and long term risk of relegation and all that entails means that enough funds must be forthcoming for players that RW wants and not for who ML and the so called transfer committee foists upon RW.
Would that be the so called transfer committee that has overseen our rise from the NL to League 1 ?
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:49 pm
by PoundhillO
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:06 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:01 pm
The short and long term risk of relegation and all that entails means that enough funds must be forthcoming for players that RW wants and not for who ML and the so called transfer committee foists upon RW.
Would that be the so called transfer committee that has overseen our rise from the NL to League 1 ?
The very same transfer committee that are responsible for more failures than successes since our NL days.
If the club are serious about keeping RW need to bring in only the players that RW wants and not players that are foisted upon him by ML and the so called transfer committee.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:49 pm
by Story of O
The good signings outweigh the bad. Show me a club where every signing is a success
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:15 pm
by Top of the JES
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:49 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:06 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:01 pm
The short and long term risk of relegation and all that entails means that enough funds must be forthcoming for players that RW wants and not for who ML and the so called transfer committee foists upon RW.
Would that be the so called transfer committee that has overseen our rise from the NL to League 1 ?
The very same transfer committee that are responsible for more failures than successes since our NL days.
If the club are serious about keeping RW need to bring in only the players that RW wants and not players that are foisted upon him by ML and the so called transfer committee.
Really? You need to give your head a wobble, So our promotion to L1 was based on signings that were mainly failures. We are used to you posting rubbish but you have outdone yourself with this one.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:20 pm
by PoundhillO
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:15 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:49 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:06 pm
Would that be the so called transfer committee that has overseen our rise from the NL to League 1 ?
The very same transfer committee that are responsible for more failures than successes since our NL days.
If the club are serious about keeping RW need to bring in only the players that RW wants and not players that are foisted upon him by ML and the so called transfer committee.
Really? You need to give your head a wobble, So our promotion to L1 was based on signings that were mainly failures. We are used to you posting rubbish but you have outdone yourself with this one.
You clearly didn’t fully read what I said .I said more failures than successes since our NL days.
That is from when we entered the NL until now, don’t be selective be accurate.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:34 pm
by Top of the JES
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:20 pm
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:15 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:49 pm
The very same transfer committee that are responsible for more failures than successes since our NL days.
If the club are serious about keeping RW need to bring in only the players that RW wants and not players that are foisted upon him by ML and the so called transfer committee.
Really? You need to give your head a wobble, So our promotion to L1 was based on signings that were mainly failures. We are used to you posting rubbish but you have outdone yourself with this one.
You clearly didn’t fully read what I said .I said more failures than successes since our NL days.
That is from when we entered the NL until now, don’t be selective be accurate.
Oh but I did and I was - After winning the Conference we stabilised in league Two and then became champions - all on more signings that were failures than were a success according to you.So I give you. Vigs, James, Beckles, El Miz, Theo, Smyth, Pratley, Graham and others all signed after promotion from NL all good successful signings with a handful of players who haven’t made an impact.No club ever gets it 100% right even those with lots of money to spend but we have done well considering not a. bean on transfer fees for those, even Moncur was good for most of last season.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:39 pm
by Chelmsford Swimmer
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:20 pm
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:15 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:49 pm
The very same transfer committee that are responsible for more failures than successes since our NL days.
If the club are serious about keeping RW need to bring in only the players that RW wants and not players that are foisted upon him by ML and the so called transfer committee.
Really? You need to give your head a wobble, So our promotion to L1 was based on signings that were mainly failures. We are used to you posting rubbish but you have outdone yourself with this one.
You clearly didn’t fully read what I said .I said more failures than successes since our NL days.
That is from when we entered the NL until now, don’t be selective be accurate.
So just to clarify with all our transfer failures and a couple of successes, over six seasons we have managed two promotions and have improved our league position every season bar the one where we dropped a whole two places. The transfers have been truly disastrous !
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:42 pm
by PoundhillO
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:39 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:20 pm
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:15 pm
Really? You need to give your head a wobble, So our promotion to L1 was based on signings that were mainly failures. We are used to you posting rubbish but you have outdone yourself with this one.
You clearly didn’t fully read what I said .I said more failures than successes since our NL days.
That is from when we entered the NL until now, don’t be selective be accurate.
So just to clarify with all our transfer failures and a couple of successes, over six seasons we have managed two promotions and have improved our league position every season bar the one where we dropped a whole two places. The transfers have ben truly disastrous !
Once again you are being selective, since our non league days ,Non league days started from our very first day in NL not from when we were promoted.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:52 pm
by Top of the JES
Still applies we signed a squad that won the Conference didn’t we (from scratch) you don’t win that with a team of failures either. Seems to me you expect every player we sign to be a world beater we do very well all things considered. It’s just never enough for some though is it.
Look at most clubs at our level we all want a 20 goal striker but it’s difficult to get them on our budget.Paul Mullin could have gone from League one Cambridge to 4 or 5 clubs in the championship, he went to Wrexham in the conference who offered him a long deal on a fantastic wage, that is what we and other clubs at our level are up against.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:57 pm
by Chelmsford Swimmer
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:42 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:39 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:20 pm
You clearly didn’t fully read what I said .I said more failures than successes since our NL days.
That is from when we entered the NL until now, don’t be selective be accurate.
So just to clarify with all our transfer failures and a couple of successes, over six seasons we have managed two promotions and have improved our league position every season bar the one where we dropped a whole two places. The transfers have ben truly disastrous !
Once again you are being selective, since our non league days ,Non league days started from our very first day in NL not from when we were promoted.
Martin Ling joined when were non league. Seems a bit harsh to blame him and his transfer committee for the first season finishing below our previous league place, but on that basis I'm happy to include this season instead where we will again finish higher than the season before.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:19 pm
by Story of O
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:42 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:39 pm
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:20 pm
You clearly didn’t fully read what I said .I said more failures than successes since our NL days.
That is from when we entered the NL until now, don’t be selective be accurate.
So just to clarify with all our transfer failures and a couple of successes, over six seasons we have managed two promotions and have improved our league position every season bar the one where we dropped a whole two places. The transfers have ben truly disastrous !
Once again you are being selective, since our non league days ,Non league days started from our very first day in NL not from when we were promoted.
In our 2 years in non league, I would say 75% of the players were a success. I would suggest a slightly higher percentage since being back in the league.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:05 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Ling brings in players recommended to him by the scouts, particularly Steve Foster.
I would doubt if Ling goes around the country watching players in games
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:09 pm
by Top of the JES
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:05 pm
Ling brings in players recommended to him by the scouts, particularly Steve Foster.
I would doubt if Ling goes around the country watching players in games
I have been to several NL games where both Foster and Ling have been in attendance also Ling and RW on one Occasion.
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:11 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:09 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:05 pm
Ling brings in players recommended to him by the scouts, particularly Steve Foster.
I would doubt if Ling goes around the country watching players in games
I have been to several NL games where both Foster and Ling have been in attendance also Ling and RE on one Occasion.
Ok, fair enough
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:08 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Richie said in his post Wycombe interview that he wasn't bothered about the transfer window and he'll leave it to Lingy . Fair enough but I hope it's Richie's decision who we go for .
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:54 am
by Tuffers#2
cockhat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:12 pm
Dane Scarlett would be nice!
Scarlett will stay at Spurs,Postecoglu press conference couple of days ago. So we can count him out
Re: Who will join in January?
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:00 pm
by Tuffers#2
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:26 pm
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:15 pm
RW knew the budget when he signed a new contract in the summer and was happy with it - there wont be any new money without moving people out
He knew the budget though I do wonder if he knew it'd be spent on Pigott whether he would've made different demands...
RW said no to players last January, If he didnt fancy Pigott he would of said No.