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Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm**

Wait - has a thread about strikes, a topic which should unify lefties, descended into infighting and division?

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:53 pm
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:27 pm I guess its okay to lie to the left as the last two elections have proved you dont have the numbers to matter.
Its ok for him to lie to me as a Labour voter as long as thf T@RY Scum get voted out. Anyone who doesnt want them out is as responsible for the mess this country is in .

The dirty, stinkin', filthy Tory rats are responsible for the state the country is in. Please stop blaming the voters.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:12 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm Wait - has a thread about strikes, a topic which should unify lefties, descended into infighting and division?

Dunno. Define what you mean by "Lefty".

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:13 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:07 pm
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:03 pm Exactly Tuffers, far left already gifted them two elections when they hijacked Labour.
Dont forgef the centrists and far right Labour members played their part too.

Still clinging onto that after two massive defeats.

Perhaps I could be described as a centrist and I still voted Labour in these elections even though Corbs was not exactly my politics.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:15 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:06 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:22 pm It's not that Labour and Starmer aren't left wing enough. It's that they're not left wing.
Exactly. Here's the right-wing fascist espousing his neo-liberal ideology again:

Depends what he means by reforming the NHS. That little weasel Wes Streeting seems to prefer more privatisation.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:15 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:53 pm
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:27 pm I guess its okay to lie to the left as the last two elections have proved you dont have the numbers to matter.
Its ok for him to lie to me as a Labour voter as long as thf T@RY Scum get voted out. Anyone who doesnt want them out is as responsible for the mess this country is in .
The dirty, stinkin', filthy Tory rats are responsible for the state the country is in. Please stop blaming the voters.

They are in power because they won votes by CON-ning the STUPID into believing labour are BAD ! Of course its the fault of the Voter !!!!!

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:18 pm**

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:13 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:07 pm
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:03 pm Exactly Tuffers, far left already gifted them two elections when they hijacked Labour.
Dont forgef the centrists and far right Labour members played their part too.
Still clinging onto that after two massive defeats.

Perhaps I could be described as a centrist and I still voted Labour in these elections even though Corbs was not exactly my politics.

Why must you always make it about you? I wasn't referring to you or other loyal Labour voters but to the traitorous weasels who spent 4 years undermining their own party and high jacking it for their own neo liberal project.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:19 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm Wait - has a thread about strikes, a topic which should unify lefties, descended into infighting and division?

The centrists purporting to be of a left persuasion have indeed started telling the lefties they need to more pragmatic and, well, centrist, yes.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:20 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm Wait - has a thread about strikes, a topic which should unify lefties, descended into infighting and division?

Nope , T@RY Politics created the strikes , now we are discussing who is to blame for allowing them to get in !

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:22 pm**

CEB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:02 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:22 pm It's not that Labour and Starmer aren't left wing enough. It's that they're not left wing.

Do you think a left wing party will win a general election in 2024?

Yes.

I also believe that a left wing party would have won a general election in 2017 if the centrists within the Labour Party machine hadn't plotted against their own party.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:23 pm**

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:19 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm Wait - has a thread about strikes, a topic which should unify lefties, descended into infighting and division?
The centrists purporting to be of a left persuasion have indeed started telling the lefties they need to more pragmatic and, well, centrist, yes.

Last GE election I voted Labour but I cannot bring myself to vote for Starmer and his rag bag of weasels.

I didn't bother voting in the Scotch election.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:24 pm**

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:19 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm Wait - has a thread about strikes, a topic which should unify lefties, descended into infighting and division?
The centrists purporting to be of a left persuasion have indeed started telling the lefties they need to more pragmatic and, well, centrist, yes.

Not at all . Some people just forget who the REAL ENEMY is & then the T@ry party jumps in to CON the STUPID & WINS ELECTIONS it never should .

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:06 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:22 pm It's not that Labour and Starmer aren't left wing enough. It's that they're not left wing.
Exactly. Here's the right-wing fascist espousing his neo-liberal ideology again:

Wow, how radical. He's going to reform the NHS and train some more doctors and underpaid nurses. Right on, Sirkier!

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:27 pm**

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:22 pm
CEB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:02 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:22 pm It's not that Labour and Starmer aren't left wing enough. It's that they're not left wing.

Do you think a left wing party will win a general election in 2024?
Yes.

I also believe that a left wing party would have won a general election in 2017 if the centrists within the Labour Party machine hadn't plotted against their own party.

The 2017 and 2019 manifestos were an attempt to re-establish the validity of social democratic policies apart from the Broadband Communism which was too far left to be of any use to anyone.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:30 pm**

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:22 pm
CEB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:02 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:22 pm It's not that Labour and Starmer aren't left wing enough. It's that they're not left wing.

Do you think a left wing party will win a general election in 2024?
Yes.

I also believe that a left wing party would have won a general election in 2017 if the centrists within the Labour Party machine hadn't plotted against their own party.

centrists right & left voted labour in 2017, however the Stupid were CONNED into voting T@RY . Therefore the left right or centre labour voters are not the ENEMY . THE T@RIES are . If you disagree YOU are part of the STUPID !!

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:33 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:27 pm apart from the Broadband Communism which was too far left to be of any use to anyone.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:35 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:30 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:22 pm
CEB wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:02 pm

Do you think a left wing party will win a general election in 2024?
Yes.

I also believe that a left wing party would have won a general election in 2017 if the centrists within the Labour Party machine hadn't plotted against their own party.
centrists right & left voted labour in 2017, however the Stupid were CONNED into voting T@RY . Therefore the left right or centre labour voters are not the ENEMY . THE T@RIES are . If you disagree YOU are part of the STUPID !!

I'm assuming that you are on the phone right now pleading with sirkeith to stop expelling and deselecting Leftists for the sake of Unity.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:36 pm**

Cant be bothered to read all 6 pages. Have we signed a striker or not?

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:38 pm**

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:36 pm Cant be bothered to read all 6 pages. Have we signed a striker or not?

Depends on what your definition of striker is. At the moment we are discussing a Left Winger with goals in him.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:56 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:38 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:36 pm Cant be bothered to read all 6 pages. Have we signed a striker or not?
Depends on what your definition of striker is. At the moment we are discussing a Left Winger with goals in him.

Can he play on the right, if required?

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:59 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:12 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:11 pm Wait - has a thread about strikes, a topic which should unify lefties, descended into infighting and division?
Dunno. Define what you mean by "Lefty".

The likes of you and me.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:00 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:35 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:30 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:22 pm

Yes.

I also believe that a left wing party would have won a general election in 2017 if the centrists within the Labour Party machine hadn't plotted against their own party.
centrists right & left voted labour in 2017, however the Stupid were CONNED into voting T@RY . Therefore the left right or centre labour voters are not the ENEMY . THE T@RIES are . If you disagree YOU are part of the STUPID !!
I'm assuming that you are on the phone right now pleading with sirkeith to stop expelling and deselecting Leftists for the sake of Unity.

Nope , just trying to remind Labour voters who the ENEMY is . The T@RIES MAX , they are the ENEMY

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:01 pm**

TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:06 pm
TRUMP Plumbing wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:22 pm It's not that Labour and Starmer aren't left wing enough. It's that they're not left wing.
Exactly. Here's the right-wing fascist espousing his neo-liberal ideology again:

Wow, how radical. He's going to reform the NHS and train some more doctors and underpaid nurses. Right on, Sirkier!

Hmmm, something smells off here. Somebody is clearly worried about Labour scrapping non-dom tax status.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:01 pm**

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:36 pm Cant be bothered to read all 6 pages. Have we signed a striker or not?

Specs on ffs !!

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:21 pm**

The usual mob wont be happy until Keith dyes his hair bright red, gobs a greeny on JK Rowling and glues his face to the M1.

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