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Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:10 pm 393

If it doubles every few days could be near 1000 a day by the weekend.

Why weren't those experts predicting this?

Oh.

Try reading this thread from the beginning. It tells a story, and it's interesting to note how some attitudes changed from whimsical and dismissive to real concern (including my own).

Remember the daily deaths is only hospitalised cases. Community cases (eg care homes) aren’t currently included. Stats, eh?

Waiting for 99p store Alan Sugar to come along and tell us you can prove anything with stats.

slacker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:20 pm Remember the daily deaths is only hospitalised cases. Community cases (eg care homes) aren’t currently included. Stats, eh?

I thought they were supposed to include that from today. Holy f***!

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:24 pm

slacker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:20 pm Remember the daily deaths is only hospitalised cases. Community cases (eg care homes) aren’t currently included. Stats, eh?

I thought they were supposed to include that from today. Holy f***!

Yes, I thought that too. In fact, I swear I saw a BBC article about it which I now can't find...

Yes I thought they included a lot more than they were counting before as yesterday they said it will jump by quite a lot due to the new way of counting.

See i always thought 1 plus 1 was 2, but they were doing something else.

But you also thought it was a Secret Biological Weapon thory , so everyone kind of grabs the salt when you talk.

I believe they are now include reported deaths by GPs and the criteria appears to be that Covid19 "may" have been a contributory factor, if so not particularly reliable.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:33 pm

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:24 pm

slacker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:20 pm Remember the daily deaths is only hospitalised cases. Community cases (eg care homes) aren’t currently included. Stats, eh?

I thought they were supposed to include that from today. Holy f***!

Yes, I thought that too. In fact, I swear I saw a BBC article about it which I now can't find...

Found it

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52103808

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:15 pm The breathing assistance prototypes developed in partnership between UCL and Mercedes should save lives.

They will at least help with early stage treatment and free up IC beds, Ventolators and ICU staff for critically ill patients at a later stage, they should be able to produce about 1000 a week with the first being delivered from next week.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:13 pm

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:15 pm The breathing assistance prototypes developed in partnership between UCL and Mercedes should save lives.

They will at least help with early stage treatment and free up IC beds, Ventolators and ICU staff for critically ill patients at a later stage, they should be able to produce about 1000 a week with the first being delivered from next week.

Not wanting to be pedantic but the BBC article said production of 1k/day, which will be massively beneficial.

Tuffers wake up, its man made, it's been genetically altered just like they do with bio weapons.

Do they lock the world down every year when 650k people die of influenza? No they don't. Why is that?

They are not telling us the truth. One day you will wake up and see what's going on here.

Countries shut down, economies trashed, freedoms eroded, personal rights eroded. The powers that have been passed through very quickly will never be rolled back.

Did you know china have lost 21 million phone subscribers, where have they gone? Just disappeared? Where are they?

They turned their phones off?

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:21 pm Tuffers wake up, its man made, it's been genetically altered just like they do with bio weapons.

Do they lock the world down every year when 650k people die of influenza? No they don't. Why is that?

They are not telling us the truth. One day you will wake up and see what's going on here.

Countries shut down, economies trashed, freedoms eroded, personal rights eroded. The powers that have been passed through very quickly will never be rolled back.

Did you know china have lost 21 million phone subscribers, where have they gone? Just disappeared? Where are they?

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:21 pm Tuffers wake up, its man made, it's been genetically altered just like they do with bio weapons.

Do they lock the world down every year when 650k people die of influenza? No they don't. Why is that?

They are not telling us the truth. One day you will wake up and see what's going on here.

Countries shut down, economies trashed, freedoms eroded, personal rights eroded. The powers that have been passed through very quickly will never be rolled back.

Did you know china have lost 21 million phone subscribers, where have they gone? Just disappeared? Where are they?

Oh my Lord. Why haven't the blokes in the white coats caught you yet?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:23 pm They turned their phones off?

Further, China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT) stated that between December 18, 2019 and March 19 2020, cellphone users decreased from 1.600957 billion to 1.579927 billion, while the number of landlines dropped 840,000 during the same period.

It is believed that the decline in mobile subscriptions is, in part, a result of China’s travel ban. Individuals who travel regularly for work often have more than a single connected device, and therefore more than one subscription. Now that travel is impossible, those users may be reducing their connections to one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rcrwir ... ribers/amp


Nah PW this report says 1.6 billion to 1.5 billion users were lost over a 3 month period .

Thory now must think most of the Chinese popualtion are now dead or on the way to it

In china people have to have a mobile phone to do anything. You know that right? They have to obtain a green code which allows them to move around the country and without it they cant. They can only communicate with the government for welfare, pensions etc by mobile phone. To buy stuff they need a mobile phone.

So do tell me where are all these people? Why are they suddenly not requiring a green code?

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:21 pm Did you know china have lost 21 million phone subscribers, where have they gone? Just disappeared? Where are they?

They have all switched to pay as you go phones.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:34 pm In china people have to have a mobile phone to do anything. You know that right? They have to obtain a green code which allows them to move around the country and without it they cant. They can only communicate with the government for welfare, pensions etc by mobile phone. To buy stuff they need a mobile phone.

So do tell me where are all these people? Why are they suddenly not requiring a green code?

" It is believed that the decline in mobile subscriptions is, in part, a result of China’s travel ban. Individuals who travel regularly for work often have more than a single connected device, and therefore more than one subscription. Now that travel is impossible, those users may be reducing their connections to one."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rcrwir ... ribers/amp

Aren't there specialist sites where all the conspiracy theorists go - please.

Yes tuffers I know that has been said. It may well be the case that's the answer. But I also.know that china have lived about the death rate so I'm sure some of it will be done to that and some down to nothing moving around. But they are required by law to have a phone. LAW.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:34 pm In china people have to have a mobile phone to do anything. You know that right? They have to obtain a green code which allows them to move around the country and without it they cant. They can only communicate with the government for welfare, pensions etc by mobile phone. To buy stuff they need a mobile phone.

So do tell me where are all these people? Why are they suddenly not requiring a green code?

Dunno, neither does the Epoch Times, from where you sourced your latest "cut and paste" conspiracy nonsense. Don't you actually have anything better to do.

Mediabiasfactcheck.com said of the Epoch Times "when reporting on China they do reflect a strong anti-communism bias". Fancy that.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:41 pm But they are required by law to have a phone. LAW.

You're saying Chinese people are required by law (LAW!) to have a phone? Where is your evidence this is true?

I FOUGHT THE LAW & THE LAW WON


Thor please Stop .

1.6 billion people down to 1.5 billion people

So under 10 % of the population has cut 1 of
there phone bills.

Or possibly have been cut off for not paying
there phone bill as they havent been to work for 3 months.

I always had 2 phones on the go

3 people i am related to have 2 phones
All work & a Personal phone.

The amount of buisness people i know who have 2 phones is unreal.