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Looks like we're back to the"new Labour" ways, as expected.
Nandy & Reeves in the shadow cabinet aaaaagh..... Tells you all you need to know
Goodbye Labour , you'll have to do it without me

I suspected as much but it really does put the tin lid on the notion that Corbyn's critics in Labour were champions of a broad church, of pluralism and tolerance of differing views. Within 24 hours of gaining power the "centre" has utterly purged the left and jumped into bed with the Right. Don't say we on the left didn't tell you the last five years was a stitch up. The problem the whole time was that the gravy train stopped. The careerists rebelled and now they're polishing their knives and forks ready for feeding time. I'm getting awfully, awfully close to spoiling my vote.

Think all those announced except Reeves served in shadow positions under Corbyn. Imagine Thornberry, Lewis and RLB (if she's happy with a position befitting her pretty limited talent) will get roles as well.

Apparently Kier Starmer translates as bell end in Farsi.

EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:07 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:34 pm

EH16 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:31 pm

This'll be the same J Savile that Thatcher made 4 attempts to give a knighthood to?

I know terrible wasn’t it, all of course with hindsight. This goes to the very top, top. Still carry on and one day your will awaken to see what’s really going on.

What's really going on is the same as it was then when Savile had access to the highest echelons of government. Namely, the establishment protecting its own at any cost regardless of what they've done.

Absolutely spot on and I fully concur with your observation.

Imagine a few token appointments to appease the Momentum types will be announced tomorrow

Those unwilling to accept Sir Keir's decisions and party democracy should fuc* off and join the Tories though.

I’m torn. Just don’t know whether to be a grown up about this and support him even though I don’t agree with him on lots of issues, give my support to someone else who better fits my views, or just belittle him and be a whiny little bitch until we get him out?

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:37 pm I’m torn. Just don’t know whether to be a grown up about this and support him even though I don’t agree with him on lots of issues, give my support to someone else who better fits my views, or just belittle him and be a whiny little bitch until we get him out?

Is there a prize if I guess it right?

The Dilemma for Labour. Have a hard lefty like Corbyn and never get into power or a more moderate leader and stand a chance of winning an election.

I know what I think is more sensible.

After 4 successive defeats the penny may drop for some.

Redline wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:20 pm The Dilemma for Labour. Have a hard lefty like Corbyn and never get into power or a more moderate leader and stand a chance of winning an election.

I know what I think is more sensible.

After 4 successive defeats the penny may drop for some.

4
Miliband was hardly hard left

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:55 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:37 pm I’m torn. Just don’t know whether to be a grown up about this and support him even though I don’t agree with him on lots of issues, give my support to someone else who better fits my views, or just belittle him and be a whiny little bitch until we get him out?

Is there a prize if I guess it right?

Redline wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:20 pm The Dilemma for Labour. Have a hard lefty like Corbyn and never get into power or a more moderate leader and stand a chance of winning an election.

I know what I think is more sensible.

After 4 successive defeats the penny may drop for some.

I’d argue none of brown, Miliband and Jezza are hard lefties.

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:37 pm I’m torn. Just don’t know whether to be a grown up about this and support him even though I don’t agree with him on lots of issues, give my support to someone else who better fits my views, or just belittle him and be a whiny little bitch until we get him out?

Show some minerals. We have an electable leader at last.

Support for anyone else is a vote for the Tories.

Corbo has been set free with his Twitter once more

That account is well-known on Twitter for spewing antisemitic poison - I refuse to believe Corbyn wasn't at least semi aware of it when he retweeted it.

Nice Username wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:25 am That account is well-known on Twitter for spewing antisemitic poison - I refuse to believe Corbyn wasn't at least semi aware of it when he retweeted it.

Relentless.

It's also very well-know that Boris Johnson wrote a novel (Seventy Two Virgins) including very antisemitic themes of Jews controlling the media (as well as other racist tones).

And there's Corbyn, bold as bloody brass, wishing him best wishes and a speedy recovery. It's never ending.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:26 am

Nice Username wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:25 am That account is well-known on Twitter for spewing antisemitic poison - I refuse to believe Corbyn wasn't at least semi aware of it when he retweeted it.

Relentless.

More like Pointless.

BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:45 am

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:26 am

Nice Username wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:25 am That account is well-known on Twitter for spewing antisemitic poison - I refuse to believe Corbyn wasn't at least semi aware of it when he retweeted it.

Relentless.

More like Pointless.

Pointless 5.15 BBC1 @5.15 what a load of crap that programme is ☹

I enjoy Pointless Ron. Been surpassed by House of Games though.

Constanza wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:00 pm I enjoy Pointless Ron. Been surpassed by House of Games though.

You can't say that about Ron. Every human life has a point.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:42 pm

Redline wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:20 pm The Dilemma for Labour. Have a hard lefty like Corbyn and never get into power or a more moderate leader and stand a chance of winning an election.

I know what I think is more sensible.

After 4 successive defeats the penny may drop for some.

4
Miliband was hardly hard left

How left he is, like others, a matter of opinion. But he was definitely the wrong brother to get the job. Just how different the political landscape today could look. An opportunity missed, big time, huge, massive. Shame.

Nice Username wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 11:25 am That account is well-known on Twitter for spewing antisemitic poison - I refuse to believe Corbyn wasn't at least semi aware of it when he retweeted it.

Corbyn is consigned to history. Best left that way. No point in dwelling on his failure. Time to move onwards and upwards.

Redline wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:01 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:42 pm

Redline wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:20 pm The Dilemma for Labour. Have a hard lefty like Corbyn and never get into power or a more moderate leader and stand a chance of winning an election.

I know what I think is more sensible.

After 4 successive defeats the penny may drop for some.

4
Miliband was hardly hard left

How left he is, like others, a matter of opinion. But he was definitely the wrong brother to get the job. Just how different the political landscape today could look. An opportunity missed, big time, huge, massive. Shame.

So thats 3 elections
Corbyn 2
Miliband 1

Who is the 4th hard left in a row ?


It seems like you are making a claim that the hard left lost 4 elections in a row when quite clearly they havent.

Good to see Millipede back in the Shadow Cabinet. FFS! Starmer.