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Labour aren't going to win until the election after next thanks to Corbyn

Good to see they've realised the reality

Who on earth are these members opting for Sir Keir?

RedO wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:11 pm Who on earth are these members opting for Sir Keir?

Part of the misogynist wing of the party who can't bring themselves to vote for a woman, when it's obvious the one with the double barrelled name who used to work for the city law firm that specialises in privatisation, is the best candidate.

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:17 pm Labour aren't going to win until the election after next thanks to Corbyn

Good to see they've realised the reality

When is the 'election after next' then?

Forget the date and Month......just give me the actual year (with substantiated proof please)?

If you can't, then basically, you are simply talking out of your rear end, aren't you dear chap.

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:01 am

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:17 pm Labour aren't going to win until the election after next thanks to Corbyn

Good to see they've realised the reality

When is the 'election after next' then?

Forget the date and Month......just give me the actual year (with substantiated proof please)?

If you can't, then basically, you are simply talking out of your rear end, aren't you dear chap.

Nope makes sense, it will take labour at least two elections to try and reduce the Tory lead, however with the options they have for leader that still ain't gonna, Maybe the labour guy in Manchester, can't remember his name, was involved in the Hillsborough dispute

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:01 am

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:17 pm Labour aren't going to win until the election after next thanks to Corbyn

Good to see they've realised the reality

When is the 'election after next' then?

Forget the date and Month......just give me the actual year (with substantiated proof please)?

If you can't, then basically, you are simply talking out of your rear end, aren't you dear chap.

Erm, subject to the FTP Act, the election after next is scheduled for 2029. As no party has ever overturned a defeat of the magnitude suffered by Labour within one election cycle before, DCC's prediction above is pretty realistic.

The only good thing to come out of this disaster will hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of the Marxist dream. Looking forward to the purges to remove these self/entitled serfs from the Party.

Good shout dis

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 am The only good thing to come out of this disaster will hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of the Marxist dream. Looking forward to the purges to remove these self/entitled serfs from the Party.

Be interesting to see what happens to the party membership if Sir Kier does get it.

When Keir wins, anyone who can't accept the will of the membership should fu*k off and join the Tories

But that doesn’t make any sense?

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:03 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 am The only good thing to come out of this disaster will hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of the Marxist dream. Looking forward to the purges to remove these self/entitled serfs from the Party.

Be interesting to see what happens to the party membership if Sir Kier does get it.

If Starmer wins I'm joining to oppose him.

I wrote to him about the Assange fiasco a few years back. His reply was very detailed but it was in lawyerese so didn't understand a word of it. He is a personality vacuum and that is why he was a lawyer.

Just voted

1. Nandy
2. Starmer
3. LRB

1. Murray
2. Allin-Khan
3. Burgon (for the bants)
4. Rayner
5. Butler

How have other comrades voted?

Secretly they all voted for boris.

1. Rebecca Long-Bailey
2. Keir Starmer
3. Lisa Nandy - only because I had to

1. Rosena Allin-Khan
2. Angela Rayner
3. Dawn Butler
4. Richard Burgon
5. Ian Murray (again, only because I had to)

As an aside, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson wasn't on the ballot paper. But then, he's got previous for going missing, hasn't he.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:07 am

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:01 am

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:17 pm Labour aren't going to win until the election after next thanks to Corbyn

Good to see they've realised the reality

When is the 'election after next' then?

Forget the date and Month......just give me the actual year (with substantiated proof please)?

If you can't, then basically, you are simply talking out of your rear end, aren't you dear chap.

Erm, subject to the FTP Act, the election after next is scheduled for 2029. As no party has ever overturned a defeat of the magnitude suffered by Labour within one election cycle before, DCC's prediction above is pretty realistic.

I thought the Fixed Term Parliament Act was dumped as soon as Boris was elected

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:48 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:07 am

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:01 am
When is the 'election after next' then?

Forget the date and Month......just give me the actual year (with substantiated proof please)?

If you can't, then basically, you are simply talking out of your rear end, aren't you dear chap.

Erm, subject to the FTP Act, the election after next is scheduled for 2029. As no party has ever overturned a defeat of the magnitude suffered by Labour within one election cycle before, DCC's prediction above is pretty realistic.

I thought the Fixed Term Parliament Act was dumped as soon as Boris was elected

I'm no lawyer nor even am I a legal assistant nor a paralegal but I suspect the law is a bit more complicated than a fat blonde w*nker deciding to ignore it.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:07 pm

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:48 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:07 am

Erm, subject to the FTP Act, the election after next is scheduled for 2029. As no party has ever overturned a defeat of the magnitude suffered by Labour within one election cycle before, DCC's prediction above is pretty realistic.

I thought the Fixed Term Parliament Act was dumped as soon as Boris was elected

I'm no lawyer nor even am I a legal assistant nor a paralegal but I suspect the law is a bit more complicated than a fat blonde w*nker deciding to ignore it.

Unless he snorts Cocaine & tries to burn down a restraunt
( alledgedly).

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:48 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:07 am

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:01 am
When is the 'election after next' then?

Forget the date and Month......just give me the actual year (with substantiated proof please)?

If you can't, then basically, you are simply talking out of your rear end, aren't you dear chap.

Erm, subject to the FTP Act, the election after next is scheduled for 2029. As no party has ever overturned a defeat of the magnitude suffered by Labour within one election cycle before, DCC's prediction above is pretty realistic.

I thought the Fixed Term Parliament Act was dumped as soon as Boris was elected

That's not my understanding (*paging spen).

My understanding is that it remains in place, however parliament can easily get around it by achieving a 51% vote on a motion for an election so long as it's subject to the proviso; "Notwithstanding the FTA etc..." That's what happened last time.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:28 pm

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:48 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:07 am

Erm, subject to the FTP Act, the election after next is scheduled for 2029. As no party has ever overturned a defeat of the magnitude suffered by Labour within one election cycle before, DCC's prediction above is pretty realistic.

I thought the Fixed Term Parliament Act was dumped as soon as Boris was elected

That's not my understanding (*paging spen).

My understanding is that it remains in place, however parliament can easily get around it by achieving a 51% vote on a motion for an election so long as it's subject to the proviso; "Notwithstanding the FTA etc..." That's what happened last time.

As I mentioned above I'm no Petrocelli when it comes to the law but the above opinion feels right to me so my gut reaction is to go for it. Should facts emerge in the future to contradict my feelings I will steadfastly ignore them and continue to agree with Dunners.

Corbyn now appearing in a campaign video for RLB. The Marxists are getting desperate now surely utilising ‘I won’t endorse anyone’ Jezza.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:40 pm Corbyn now appearing in a campaign video for RLB. The Marxists are getting desperate now surely utilising ‘I won’t endorse anyone’ Jezza.

The way you use the words "The Marxists" makes me sick. You use it like theyre lepers. Marxists are people who follow the greatest philosopher the world has ever seen Karl Marx
Because it isnt your cup of tea, dont be rude

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:04 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:40 pm Corbyn now appearing in a campaign video for RLB. The Marxists are getting desperate now surely utilising ‘I won’t endorse anyone’ Jezza.

The way you use the words "The Marxists" makes me sick. You use it like theyre lepers. Marxists are people who follow the greatest philosopher the world has ever seen Karl Marx
Because it isnt your cup of tea, dont be rude

Maybe you should follow your own advice for the "Red Tories" mate

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:48 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:28 pm

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:48 am
I thought the Fixed Term Parliament Act was dumped as soon as Boris was elected

That's not my understanding (*paging spen).

My understanding is that it remains in place, however parliament can easily get around it by achieving a 51% vote on a motion for an election so long as it's subject to the proviso; "Notwithstanding the FTA etc..." That's what happened last time.

As I mentioned above I'm no Petrocelli when it comes to the law but the above opinion feels right to me so my gut reaction is to go for it. Should facts emerge in the future to contradict my feelings I will steadfastly ignore them and continue to agree with Dunners.

There was a Fixed Term Parliament Act 2011 (Repeal) Bill (HL)2019, that had it's first reading in the House of lords 28 Oct 2019 then the election sort of got in the way, Boris is going through Parliament changing all those lords decision that were put in the way of the House of Commons before the election, eventually the FTPA will be dealt with

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:04 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 5:40 pm Corbyn now appearing in a campaign video for RLB. The Marxists are getting desperate now surely utilising ‘I won’t endorse anyone’ Jezza.

The way you use the words "The Marxists" makes me sick. You use it like theyre lepers. Marxists are people who follow the greatest philosopher the world has ever seen Karl Marx
Because it isnt your cup of tea, dont be rude

Eh? They are called Marxists for a reason as they follow the views of Karl Marx. How is that rude?

As for the ‘greatest’ philosopher - seriously?