Independent Leyton Orient Forum

eagwgw wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:02 am

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:48 am Sure it's a bit on the low side but how much do people reckon he's worth?

I think Bonne is much at the same stage Andre Gray was when Luton sold him to Brentford. Similar age, unfinished product, unproven in the League with but in National League he scored 1 in 2 over 2 seasons for the biggest team at that level.

They got £600k plus a 25% sell-on, so I would be expecting similar. I think that is reasonable considering we haven't even factored inflation in (Gray deal was 2014).

How long did Gray have remaining on his contract when he was sold?

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/ ... ford-move/

According to that, one year.

Of course, it might reflect that Luton could have been more desperate to hold on to him. Given Nigels comments I am less certain we would turn down money, although I'd hope it's more than £200k.

If Bonne is sold no doubt it would be for an undisclosed fee .

I dont see why the club would have agreed to such a low release clause.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:24 am I dont see why the club would have agreed to such a low release clause.

To get him to stay for another year and secure our promotion first.

BIGRON wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:15 am If Bonne is sold no doubt it would be for an undisclosed fee .

The fee would need to be undisclosed owing to league rules, so yes it no doubt would be (though that's not what you meant).

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:35 am sounds as if we’re being buttered up for something here.

The force is strong in this one

eagwgw wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:02 am

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:48 am Sure it's a bit on the low side but how much do people reckon he's worth?

I think Bonne is much at the same stage Andre Gray was when Luton sold him to Brentford. Similar age, unfinished product, unproven in the League with but in National League he scored 1 in 2 over 2 seasons for the biggest team at that level.

They got £600k plus a 25% sell-on, so I would be expecting similar. I think that is reasonable considering we haven't even factored inflation in (Gray deal was 2014).

I think your in the right area with what you say and backed up against previous. I still hope he stays though.

Whatever happens I trust the owners to make the right decisions and to back the DOF with the appropriate players coming in.

Renaming a road is not that easy. I had an office on a new industrial park in Leeds and the council wanted to rename it Don Revie Way. They ditched the idea because of cost. The problem was that they had compensate companies for costs incurred. This meant that they had to pay for company leaflets, samples, signs etc to be reprinted. My unit was fairly small compared to others but our bill alone was £80,000 some 30 years ago. This shouldn't stop the question being asked if the Club think it's worthwhile but it won't be easy.

No way is Ling stepping back into management.

We will get there going to take time hopfully we will get somone in the building within the next week or so to replace justin so nigel said

Bonne gone, Koroma probably going and Happe possibly off. If they replace Edinburgh with Webb/Embleton, it will be one hell of a long season.

Would he have stayed ifJustin was still here? Probably and after watching his video sitting the west stand he wasn’t a player going anywhere. Now the unfortunate has happened to Justin I can see more players going, Josh and Dan will both possibly be out the door.

We have moved from a position of strength and positivity to a period of uncertainty and no one likes uncertainty.

The darkness that surrounds our club just got a bit darker.

I’m gutted, frustrated and annoyed at what’s playing out in front of us. I trust the owners to do the right thing, but after losing arguably the best manager we’ve had since Bloomfield, we’ve lost our most prolific striker since Kitchen to boot as well.

We need some good news now.

Nigel did say that there will be an appointment managment within the next week or so

He did, but I’m thinking internal promotion for Ross whose ML’s mate and with zero management experience, I for one wouldn’t dig that I’m afraid.

Bring back Slade, he’s the short term answer in my opinion.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:25 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:24 am I dont see why the club would have agreed to such a low release clause.

To get him to stay for another year and secure our promotion first.

Exactly this. We got an extension but it will have been a two way beneficial agreement. We got his goals, promotion and a fee. He gets the chance to move upwards if an offer comes in. To be fair on the club it’s not always possible to dictate terms and I dare say they did the best they could under the circumstances.

Now in the paper.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ravis.html

1st comment get Slade back. Now that I’d agree with.

The only way I can see an internal reshuffling working is giving Jobi the gig and keeping the others in situ.

It’s going to be difficult with the coaching staff stepping up as the players will generally have a different type of reallyionship with them than the manager. Then there needs adjustment from both sides due to the change in position and it’s hard, I don’t envy them that’s for sure.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:08 pm The only way I can see an internal reshuffling working is giving Jobi the gig and keeping the others in situ.

Don’t you need coaching badges etc to be a manager/coach

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:16 pm It’s going to be difficult with the coaching staff stepping up as the players will generally have a different type of reallyionship with them than the manager. Then there needs adjustment from both sides due to the change in position and it’s hard, I don’t envy them that’s for sure.

Essentially go from mate to boss, most pros can't deal with it. That's why it rarely works. I hope it works out well but I fear this sentimentality won't turn out very well for the club.

Why would you give Jobi the gig?
No experience at management level being a captain is completely different
Danny Webb has the experience he did ok under a lot of pressure last time round and is a no nonsense guy just like JE he knows the players how the club works etc
For me Danny with Ross at his side
Jobi and Brill can still be mentors etc

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:43 pm Why would you give Jobi the gig?
No experience at management level being a captain is completely different
Danny Webb has the experience he did ok under a lot of pressure last time round and is a no nonsense guy just like JE he knows the players how the club works etc
For me Danny with Ross at his side
Jobi and Brill can still be mentors etc

Relegation zone by November if that happens

Lol the annual relegation by November post is up