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Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:23 am
by George M
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:18 pm Never forget that we had all the scientific evidence we needed to act on global warming over 40 years ago, but the fossil fuel industry spent millions to spread disinformation and block climate action. Global warming isn’t a tragedy, it’s a crime.
And that we can agree on . And the oil price still has an enormous impact on world economy

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:58 am
by Long slender neck
Should we have gone back to horse and cart?

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:14 am
by Chelmsford Swimmer
George wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:20 am
How can you believe that population growth has had a minimal impact on climate change.
Having reviewed world population figures:

1700 603 Million
1800 1 Billion
1900 2 Billion
Today 7.7 Billion

I have to admit that population growth has indeed had impact. I just believe that if we could switch it, 7.7 Billion living in 1700 would have less climate impact that 603 Million living today.

The growth numbers are staggering, what will the world look like in another 200 years?

Terrible thing to say, but no vaccine for Covid might have done the world (obviously not us) a favour.

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:20 pm
by tuffers#1
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:30 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:59 pm Garlic Bug
Its the Future

I wouldn't have a problem as long as it tastes OK. Crickets are alright, cockroach is disgusting
Yet Cockroach was in lots of ready meals sold in
All the supermarkets for years .

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:54 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
Max B Gold wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:47 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:46 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:41 pm

What are chicken peas?
I think he meant chickpeas, which contain nowhere near as much protein or iron per serving
I think I did mean chick peas. Can't accept i got the iron and protein thing wrong though maybe I was thinking of the extra large ones. Is there anything scientific to back up your claim Snow"""yyyyy
Yes check the nutritional info on a tin of chickpeas and compare it to the info on a steak packet

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:00 pm
by Real Al
A quick Google suggests more protein and iron in chick peas per 100g

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:12 pm
by Dunners
More protein in chicken, but more iron in chickpeas: https://vegfaqs.com/chickpeas-vs-chicken/

So best that we eat both.

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:25 pm
by Real Al
Dunners wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:12 pm More protein in chicken, but more iron in chickpeas: https://vegfaqs.com/chickpeas-vs-chicken/

So best that we eat both.
Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:02 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
Real Al wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:25 pm
Dunners wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:12 pm More protein in chicken, but more iron in chickpeas: https://vegfaqs.com/chickpeas-vs-chicken/

So best that we eat both.
Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas

That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:12 pm
by Stowaway
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:02 pm
Real Al wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:25 pm
Dunners wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:12 pm More protein in chicken, but more iron in chickpeas: https://vegfaqs.com/chickpeas-vs-chicken/

So best that we eat both.
Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas

That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
The issue with mass farming of chickens is that the meat produced is of very low quality and nutritional value. The chickens are often slaughtered at around 30 days, and most of the bulk they gain in that ridiculously short life is crap muscle. There’s very little protein in a battery chicken because the quality of the meat is so poor. What could you expect from a chicken that costs £3, retail? Most of the chicken pieces you get in ready meals and from takeaway shops comes from Indonesia and Mexico, where production standards are appallingly low. You could always buy a free-range organic chicken where the bird has at least had a half-decent life, and has had a chance to develop some quality meat. The other side of that is that it’ll cost you three times the price, which while sounding a lot is a far more realistic price. But otherwise you’re better off with protein from other sources.

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:14 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:20 pm
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:30 am
tuffers#1 wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:59 pm Garlic Bug
Its the Future

I wouldn't have a problem as long as it tastes OK. Crickets are alright, cockroach is disgusting
Yet Cockroach was in lots of ready meals sold in
All the supermarkets for years .
😳

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:02 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:14 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:20 pm
Adz wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:30 am

I wouldn't have a problem as long as it tastes OK. Crickets are alright, cockroach is disgusting
Yet Cockroach was in lots of ready meals sold in
All the supermarkets for years .
😳
Dont worry RD81
it was part of the colouring .

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:20 pm
by Real Al
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:02 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:14 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:20 pm

Yet Cockroach was in lots of ready meals sold in
All the supermarkets for years .
😳
Dont worry RD81
it was part of the colouring .
My mate used to add the colouring. Cocky Neil.

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:09 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
Stowaway wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:12 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:02 pm
Real Al wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:25 pm Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas

That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
The issue with mass farming of chickens is that the meat produced is of very low quality and nutritional value. The chickens are often slaughtered at around 30 days, and most of the bulk they gain in that ridiculously short life is crap muscle. There’s very little protein in a battery chicken because the quality of the meat is so poor. What could you expect from a chicken that costs £3, retail? Most of the chicken pieces you get in ready meals and from takeaway shops comes from Indonesia and Mexico, where production standards are appallingly low. You could always buy a free-range organic chicken where the bird has at least had a half-decent life, and has had a chance to develop some quality meat. The other side of that is that it’ll cost you three times the price, which while sounding a lot is a far more realistic price. But otherwise you’re better off with protein from other sources.
I don’t buy battery farmed chicken, but your last sentence is still completely wrong (and wildly subjective)

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:23 pm
by Max B Gold
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:02 pm
Real Al wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:25 pm
Dunners wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:12 pm More protein in chicken, but more iron in chickpeas: https://vegfaqs.com/chickpeas-vs-chicken/

So best that we eat both.
Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas

That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
Did I say beef? Probably meant chicken.

You can throw as much science at this as youse bloody well like but I'm not accepting it and I'm sticking with my own facts.

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:06 pm
by Long slender neck
What do vegans have in their sandwiches?

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:07 pm
by Stowaway
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:09 pm
Stowaway wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:12 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:02 pm

Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas

That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
The issue with mass farming of chickens is that the meat produced is of very low quality and nutritional value. The chickens are often slaughtered at around 30 days, and most of the bulk they gain in that ridiculously short life is crap muscle. There’s very little protein in a battery chicken because the quality of the meat is so poor. What could you expect from a chicken that costs £3, retail? Most of the chicken pieces you get in ready meals and from takeaway shops comes from Indonesia and Mexico, where production standards are appallingly low. You could always buy a free-range organic chicken where the bird has at least had a half-decent life, and has had a chance to develop some quality meat. The other side of that is that it’ll cost you three times the price, which while sounding a lot is a far more realistic price. But otherwise you’re better off with protein from other sources.
I don’t buy battery farmed chicken, but your last sentence is still completely wrong (and wildly subjective)

I’m not, but I can’t be arsed to argue with you. The facts are out there, just do some research.

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:54 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
This thread shows just how f*cked we are.

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:10 am
by Dunners
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:06 pm What do vegans have in their sandwiches?
Sadness and despair.

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:47 am
by Long slender neck
Here's what Lewis Hamiltons vegan dog has for lunch... on his private jet

Image

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:59 am
by tuffers#1
Real Al wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:20 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:02 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:14 pm

😳
Dont worry RD81
it was part of the colouring .
My mate used to add the colouring. Cocky Neil.
Cocky Neil took over after Cocky Roach left
Didnt he ?

Re: Climate change.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:01 pm
by tuffers#1
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:47 am Here's what Lewis Hamiltons vegan dog has for lunch... on his private jet

Image
Like most Vegans
Looks miserable as f*ck .