Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:18 pm
Never forget that we had all the scientific evidence we needed to act on global warming over 40 years ago, but the fossil fuel industry spent millions to spread disinformation and block climate action. Global warming isn’t a tragedy, it’s a crime.
And that we can agree on . And the oil price still has an enormous impact on world economy
Re: Climate change.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:58 am
by Long slender neck
Should we have gone back to horse and cart?
Re: Climate change.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:14 am
by Chelmsford Swimmer
George wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:20 am
How can you believe that population growth has had a minimal impact on climate change.
I have to admit that population growth has indeed had impact. I just believe that if we could switch it, 7.7 Billion living in 1700 would have less climate impact that 603 Million living today.
The growth numbers are staggering, what will the world look like in another 200 years?
Terrible thing to say, but no vaccine for Covid might have done the world (obviously not us) a favour.
I think he meant chickpeas, which contain nowhere near as much protein or iron per serving
I think I did mean chick peas. Can't accept i got the iron and protein thing wrong though maybe I was thinking of the extra large ones. Is there anything scientific to back up your claim Snow"""yyyyy
Yes check the nutritional info on a tin of chickpeas and compare it to the info on a steak packet
Re: Climate change.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:00 pm
by Real Al
A quick Google suggests more protein and iron in chick peas per 100g
Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas
That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas
That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
The issue with mass farming of chickens is that the meat produced is of very low quality and nutritional value. The chickens are often slaughtered at around 30 days, and most of the bulk they gain in that ridiculously short life is crap muscle. There’s very little protein in a battery chicken because the quality of the meat is so poor. What could you expect from a chicken that costs £3, retail? Most of the chicken pieces you get in ready meals and from takeaway shops comes from Indonesia and Mexico, where production standards are appallingly low. You could always buy a free-range organic chicken where the bird has at least had a half-decent life, and has had a chance to develop some quality meat. The other side of that is that it’ll cost you three times the price, which while sounding a lot is a far more realistic price. But otherwise you’re better off with protein from other sources.
Real Al wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:25 pm
Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas
That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
The issue with mass farming of chickens is that the meat produced is of very low quality and nutritional value. The chickens are often slaughtered at around 30 days, and most of the bulk they gain in that ridiculously short life is crap muscle. There’s very little protein in a battery chicken because the quality of the meat is so poor. What could you expect from a chicken that costs £3, retail? Most of the chicken pieces you get in ready meals and from takeaway shops comes from Indonesia and Mexico, where production standards are appallingly low. You could always buy a free-range organic chicken where the bird has at least had a half-decent life, and has had a chance to develop some quality meat. The other side of that is that it’ll cost you three times the price, which while sounding a lot is a far more realistic price. But otherwise you’re better off with protein from other sources.
I don’t buy battery farmed chicken, but your last sentence is still completely wrong (and wildly subjective)
Sorry, yes. I just proved I can't use the internet
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas
That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
Did I say beef? Probably meant chicken.
You can throw as much science at this as youse bloody well like but I'm not accepting it and I'm sticking with my own facts.
Maxy said beef, and beef has more iron per 100g than chickpeas
That's a nonsense article though, as any balanced diet will give you more than enough vitamins and micronutrients - you don't need to swap out meat for legumes to achieve that. Vegans love claiming that chickpeas and peanut butter are a better source of protein than meat but this will always be incorrect (as much as I'd love to see us reduce our meat consumption)
The issue with mass farming of chickens is that the meat produced is of very low quality and nutritional value. The chickens are often slaughtered at around 30 days, and most of the bulk they gain in that ridiculously short life is crap muscle. There’s very little protein in a battery chicken because the quality of the meat is so poor. What could you expect from a chicken that costs £3, retail? Most of the chicken pieces you get in ready meals and from takeaway shops comes from Indonesia and Mexico, where production standards are appallingly low. You could always buy a free-range organic chicken where the bird has at least had a half-decent life, and has had a chance to develop some quality meat. The other side of that is that it’ll cost you three times the price, which while sounding a lot is a far more realistic price. But otherwise you’re better off with protein from other sources.
I don’t buy battery farmed chicken, but your last sentence is still completely wrong (and wildly subjective)
I’m not, but I can’t be arsed to argue with you. The facts are out there, just do some research.
Re: Climate change.
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:54 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
This thread shows just how f*cked we are.
Re: Climate change.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:10 am
by Dunners
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:06 pm
What do vegans have in their sandwiches?
Sadness and despair.
Re: Climate change.
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:47 am
by Long slender neck
Here's what Lewis Hamiltons vegan dog has for lunch... on his private jet