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Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:09 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:32 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:06 pm I have deleted all my Social media connections with LOFC
Except here , i have blocked Emails from the club
I shall ring them next week to remove me from there
Database & those family members who have bought stuff for me over
the last 50 years of supporting this Wonderful little club .

This i cant forgive though .
It is asking me to choose between my Loyalty to my club
Or to choose loyalty to my Family & my Heritage .

There is only going to be 1 winner .

Its been Nice supporting you O's , but i think im done .
I admire your principled stand. The association of the club with the military and Empire was bad enough. Now this.
I dont have a problem with players who played for the club 100+ years ago
What they did was admirable .

Modern Soldiers as in post ww2
Became a different beast altogether .
Hang on. What's happened to your principlez

They could easily have been deployed suppressing the Easter Rising of 1916. You've changed man.

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:24 pm
by RientO
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Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:31 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:09 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:32 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 pm

I admire your principled stand. The association of the club with the military and Empire was bad enough. Now this.
I dont have a problem with players who played for the club 100+ years ago
What they did was admirable .

Modern Soldiers as in post ww2
Became a different beast altogether .
Hang on. What's happened to your principled.

They could easily have been deployed suppressing the Easter Rising of 1916. You've changed man.
1916 eventually achieved what it set out to do Max.
Admittedly the signatories of Poblacht na H Eireann were murdered by Soldiers
Under rule of westminster .
The Dail was formed & the republic achieved & is still going .

The 6 counties is a different matter altogether .

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:33 pm
by tuffers#1
RientO wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:24 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:06 pm I have deleted all my Social media connections with LOFC
Except here , i have blocked Emails from the club
I shall ring them next week to remove me from there
Database & those family members who have bought stuff for me over
the last 50 years of supporting this Wonderful little club .

This i cant forgive though .
It is asking me to choose between my Loyalty to my club
Or to choose loyalty to my Family & my Heritage .

There is only going to be 1 winner .

Its been Nice supporting you O's , but i think im done .
I don’t see that Orient are necessarily supporting this. Looking at the Tommy Club website, it seems to be a charity which people join up to support veterans. If they want. Wearing a poppy would be more of a statement. Given past sponsors like 666Bet and energybet, I don’t see this as problematic as they were. Nor a choice. And certainly not something I would stop supporting a football club over.
Maybe you need to come from a place that was destroyed by Soldiers
Following UK government policy .
You might get it then .

I guess you arent to aware of why players take the knee .

Or why people are against facism & treatment of the Jewish race .

But because they are poor little Catholics from Ireland & its 6 counties
They should just be ignored.

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:39 pm
by RientO
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Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:41 pm
by tuffers#1
RientO wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:39 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:33 pm Maybe you need to come from a place that was destroyed by Soldiers
Following UK government policy .
You might get it then .
Why do you think I didn’t? I don’t understand why you would live in the UK at all if you feel that strongly about it.
Im stuck here .
Came without choice at the age of 2 or 3 .

Im waiting to go back Home when I decide .
Not when some bigot tells me to .

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:45 pm
by RientO
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Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:48 pm
by RientO
Removed.

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:50 pm
by tuffers#1
RientO wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:45 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:41 pm
RientO wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:39 pm

Why do you think I didn’t? I don’t understand why you would live in the UK at all if you feel that strongly about it.
Im stuck here .
Came without choice at the age of 2 or 3 .

Im waiting to go back Home when I decide .
Not when some bigot tells me to .
You are jumping to the wrong conclusions again.
What conclusions am i jumping ?

You involved yourself in my posts .
You have made no claim to show me anything that would make
Me think any different with what was posted .

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:53 pm
by tuffers#1
RientO wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:48 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:33 pm
Maybe you need to come from a place that was destroyed by Soldiers
Following UK government policy .
You might get it then .

I guess you arent to aware of why players take the knee .

Or why people are against facism & treatment of the Jewish race .

But because they are poor little Catholics from Ireland & its 6 counties
They should just be ignored.
As I am one of them "poor little catholics” from Ireland you are jumping to the wrong conclusions. Editing posts after I respond isn’t helping.
I was editing my post already
You replied before i had finished
Dont think so much of yourself that i would edit it because of a response from you

If you are happy with the shirt sponsorship then good for you .

I am not & I take it as an Insult personally .

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:18 pm
by Max B Gold
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:31 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:09 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:32 pm

I dont have a problem with players who played for the club 100+ years ago
What they did was admirable .

Modern Soldiers as in post ww2
Became a different beast altogether .
Hang on. What's happened to your principled.

They could easily have been deployed suppressing the Easter Rising of 1916. You've changed man.
1916 eventually achieved what it set out to do Max.
Admittedly the signatories of Poblacht na H Eireann were murdered by Soldiers
Under rule of westminster .
The Dail was formed & the republic achieved & is still going .

The 6 counties is a different matter altogether .
1916 did not achieve anything.

It was an ill conceived boys own adventure that wasted the lives of good socialists, eventually resulted in a divided Ireland and birthed two capitalist parties and set back the cause of socialism in a United Ireland by a minimum of 100 years and counting.

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:28 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 9:18 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:31 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:09 pm

Hang on. What's happened to your principled.

They could easily have been deployed suppressing the Easter Rising of 1916. You've changed man.
1916 eventually achieved what it set out to do Max.
Admittedly the signatories of Poblacht na H Eireann were murdered by Soldiers
Under rule of westminster .
The Dail was formed & the republic achieved & is still going .

The 6 counties is a different matter altogether .
1916 did not achieve anything.

It was an ill conceived boys own adventure that wasted the lives of good socialists, eventually resulted in a divided Ireland and birthed two capitalist parties and set back the cause of socialism in a United Ireland by a minimum of 100 years and counting.
Seriously , you are Going to Challenge me on the Irish Revolution ?
Tell me Maxy

Why was De Valera sent to jail & Not Executed with the 7 ?

Fianna Fail & Fine Gael were never founded as Capitalist Parties .
You obviously never saw Ireland before 1975 .

A socialist Ireland is still being fought for today .
The civil war had NOTHING to do with the 2 state existence
In the sense you are describing
Of the 26 counties & the 6 ..


Maxy

Brush up on your Irish History fully before you come to me wanting a Fight .
I know its Friday night & you are probably on the beer , but please

Check your head .

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:16 pm
by Snowyash
Why are people complaining about it?

Harry Kane is the sponsor, he pays the money, not the charity. It’s his choice to put the charity there, not the clubs decision. Think some people need to remind themselves how the concept works 😅

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:41 pm
by KVN
KVN wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 10:54 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am
KVN wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 3:04 am

Its lot of money for a name on a shirt isnt it a worry when a player can sponser a professional team. When do they start owning clubs?
They already do. See salford.
That is multiple ex footballers who are not the main stakeholder in the the club.
I dont want to argue with you people I say my opinion and you see it as a personal attack. Think what F🖕🖕k what you want.

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:58 pm
by tuffers#1
KVN wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 5:41 pm
KVN wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 10:54 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am

They already do. See salford.
That is multiple ex footballers who are not the main stakeholder in the the club.
I dont want to argue with you people I say my opinion and you see it as a personal attack. Think what the
F🖕🖕k what you want.

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:59 pm
by tuffers#1
Snowyash wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 2:16 pm Why are people complaining about it?

Harry Kane is the sponsor, he pays the money, not the charity. It’s his choice to put the charity there, not the clubs decision. Think some people need to remind themselves how the concept works 😅
Thats not what happened last year .
Kane pays for the space on the shirt
The club gave a dividend of the shirt sales (£5)
to the selected charities .

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:16 pm
by Story of O
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:32 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:06 pm I have deleted all my Social media connections with LOFC
Except here , i have blocked Emails from the club
I shall ring them next week to remove me from there
Database & those family members who have bought stuff for me over
the last 50 years of supporting this Wonderful little club .

This i cant forgive though .
It is asking me to choose between my Loyalty to my club
Or to choose loyalty to my Family & my Heritage .

There is only going to be 1 winner .

Its been Nice supporting you O's , but i think im done .
I admire your principled stand. The association of the club with the military and Empire was bad enough. Now this.
I dont have a problem with players who played for the club 100+ years ago
What they did was admirable .

Modern Soldiers as in post ww2
Became a different beast altogether .
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My Dad was called up in 1949, are you saying he was a different beast?

Re: New home shirt

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm
by tuffers#1
Story of O wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 6:16 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:32 pm
Max B Gold wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 5:09 pm

I admire your principled stand. The association of the club with the military and Empire was bad enough. Now this.
I dont have a problem with players who played for the club 100+ years ago
What they did was admirable .

Modern Soldiers as in post ww2
Became a different beast altogether .
My Dad was called up in 1949, are you saying he was a different beast?
It was the start of the development of soldiers .

I hope he wasnt tested unkowingly for LSD .
I know in 1964 there were secret tests , but it does ask the question had they tried it on
Some poor soldier just called upto do his duty before 64.

https://www.forces.net/services/tri-ser ... -tried-lsd

Who knows what else was tested & when .

I hope he had a safe time during his National service .
I heard of many who have lost people during National service .