Boris off to court for lies during Brexit Campaign

[BoniO]

Maybe they will argue it didn't matter because everyone already knows he is a pathological liar

Seems fair to me!

[StillSpike]

Well should the situation you described arise, we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it (although, of course, there are other remedies in law available to the sitting MP).

The rules are applying to the conduct of the 3 candidates in your example, not to the contest they are involved it. As a sitting MP, he or she also has to understand that they are in Public Office - I don't see a problem with that at all (in any situation).

Trying to judge each person by the same rules is just silly - your legal experience will tell you that the punishments for dishonesty when the individual is in a position of trust are more stringent than those for "ordinary" members of the public. Police Officers who lie or fabricate evidence are held to higher standards than members of the public in many instances and can be prosecuted for misconduct in Public Office.

Do you not think there should be such an offence as Misconduct in Public Office?

[spen666]

Well should the situation you described arise, we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it (although, of course, there are other remedies in law available to the sitting MP).

The rules are applying to the conduct of the 3 candidates in your example, not to the contest they are involved it. As a sitting MP, he or she also has to understand that they are in Public Office - I don't see a problem with that at all (in any situation).

Trying to judge each person by the same rules is just silly - your legal experience will tell you that the punishments for dishonesty when the individual is in a position of trust are more stringent than those for "ordinary" members of the public. Police Officers who lie or fabricate evidence are held to higher standards than members of the public in many instances and can be prosecuted for misconduct in Public Office.

Do you not think there should be such an offence as Misconduct in Public Office?

I am not arguing against the misconduct offence.

I am pointing out that a sitting MP will be unable to fairly contest a by election as he has different restrictions to his rivals. A fair playing field should apply to all.

[StillSpike]

Given that we're talking about lying here, I hardly think he'll be "unable to fairly contest" the by election! I'll grant you that he won't be able to match them lie for lie, but that's quite a low bar.

[A Pedant]

I am pointing out that a sitting MP will be unable to fairly contest a by election as he has different restrictions to his rivals. A fair playing field should apply to all.

Point of order, Spen - you can't have a sitting MP and a by-election at the same time. A by-election is caused by the sitting MP ceasing to be the MP.

Everybody contesting an election is a Prospective Parliamentary Candidate, whether they were the sitting MP or not. At a general election all 650 MPs cease to be MPs and become PPCs along with all the other candidates.

[CreamofSumYungGai]

Well should the situation you described arise, we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it (although, of course, there are other remedies in law available to the sitting MP).

The rules are applying to the conduct of the 3 candidates in your example, not to the contest they are involved it. As a sitting MP, he or she also has to understand that they are in Public Office - I don't see a problem with that at all (in any situation).

Trying to judge each person by the same rules is just silly - your legal experience will tell you that the punishments for dishonesty when the individual is in a position of trust are more stringent than those for "ordinary" members of the public. Police Officers who lie or fabricate evidence are held to higher standards than members of the public in many instances and can be prosecuted for misconduct in Public Office.

Do you not think there should be such an offence as Misconduct in Public Office?

I am not arguing against the misconduct offence.

I am pointing out that a sitting MP will be unable to fairly contest a by election as he has different restrictions to his rivals. A fair playing field should apply to all.

The sitting mp will also be contesting the election full time as it’s his job, whereas the rivals are doing it in their spare time. I’m sure they’ll cope with not being able to lie as much as those rivals.

[spen666]

I am pointing out that a sitting MP will be unable to fairly contest a by election as he has different restrictions to his rivals. A fair playing field should apply to all.

Point of order, Spen - you can't have a sitting MP and a by-election at the same time. A by-election is caused by the sitting MP ceasing to be the MP.

Everybody contesting an election is a Prospective Parliamentary Candidate, whether they were the sitting MP or not. At a general election all 650 MPs cease to be MPs and become PPCs along with all the other candidates.

Correct, unless MP is a Cabinet Minister when he or she would remain in role until after election. So same scenario as before but read cabinet minister for mp

[spen666]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

[Max B Gold]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Good old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.

[RedDwarf 1881]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Good old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.

Well then ,maybe he should have been tried in Scotland instead . That's a lesson for any future court battles . I wonder if it was possible he was actually telling the truth and not lying .

[Max B Gold]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Good old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.

Well then ,maybe he should have been tried in Scotland instead . That's a lesson for any future court battles . I wonder if it was possible he was actually telling the truth and not lying .

Inconceivable.

[Orientinoz]

With all these so called predicted prosecutions mentioned by Maxy just waiting to happen, I suppose one day one will ??

[RedDwarf 1881]

Good old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.

Well then ,maybe he should have been tried in Scotland instead . That's a lesson for any future court battles . I wonder if it was possible he was actually telling the truth and not lying .

Inconceivable.

Not according to a court it wasn't. If I was Boris, I would now try and find a way to counter sue this idiot.

[B.whitehouse+10more]

Move along please, nothing to see here.

[Mikero]

So if it is a 'political' campaign you are allowed to lie your socks off to get people to vote your way, but it is illegal if you do it when in office. What an absurd way to run a democracy.

Mikero

[Disoriented]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Good old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.

What justice? This is nothing but the establishment maintaining the status quo and keeping the plebs in their place.

[Max B Gold]

Excactly

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Good old English justice sides with the Great Big Liar.

What justice? This is nothing but the establishment maintaining the status quo and keeping the plebs in their place.

Believe what you want mate. It was a victory for Great Big Blondey Liars.

[Disoriented]

Spiffing liars.

[Joe_Mayo]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Eton Mafia win the day again.

[Disoriented]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Eton Mafia win the day again.

More like an Eton Mess.

[spen666]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Eton Mafia win the day again.

The rule of law won.

As there was no evidence of any offence, there should be no prosecution

[Max B Gold]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Eton Mafia win the day again.

The rule of law won.

As there was no evidence of any offence, there should be no prosecution

I'm offended by his LIES.

[spen666]

Eton Mafia win the day again.

The rule of law won.

As there was no evidence of any offence, there should be no prosecution

I'm offended by his LIES.

Strangely enough there was no lie

[Max B Gold]

Agreed because that was not what the Court considered.

See my earlier post above for a guide to basic law.

[BoniO]

Boris not going to court now after going to court today!


A result that was inevitable in my view

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/boris-jo ... ito=social

Eton Mafia win the day again.

The rule of law won.

As there was no evidence of any offence, there should be no prosecution

Nah, the rule of who has loads of money can "buy" their version of law won.