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Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:58 pm
by tuffers#1
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:48 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:41 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:33 pm


So BBC, Sky or BT would not highlight any teams or individuals not taking the knee?

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rug ... 50906.html

Sounds more like people moaned on social media & led to a.media reaction.

Like they did with Israel Folau in the rugby?
Oh the israel folau thing i responded to the last time you used it .

Nobody criticised him , it was discussed & he was admonished by the
Commentators.
admonish
/ədˈmɒnɪʃ/
Learn to pronounce
verb
past tense: admonished; past participle: admonished
warn or reprimand someone firmly.

Why should he be admonished? Doesnt he have a choice? Thanks for proving my point.
My mistake
Should have been WASN'T admonished by the commentators .

There is a clip out there that shows them defending him .
Hope that unproves your point with regards to my comment .

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:00 pm
by Ornchurch
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:58 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:48 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:41 pm

Oh the israel folau thing i responded to the last time you used it .

Nobody criticised him , it was discussed & he was admonished by the
Commentators.
admonish
/ədˈmɒnɪʃ/
Learn to pronounce
verb
past tense: admonished; past participle: admonished
warn or reprimand someone firmly.

Why should he be admonished? Doesnt he have a choice? Thanks for proving my point.
My mistake
Should have been WASN'T admonished by the commentators .

There is a clip out there that shows them defending him .
Hope that unproves your point with regards to my comment .
:lol: Beep. Beep. Beep. Vehicle Reversing.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:02 pm
by tuffers#1
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:00 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:58 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:48 pm

admonish
/ədˈmɒnɪʃ/
Learn to pronounce
verb
past tense: admonished; past participle: admonished
warn or reprimand someone firmly.

Why should he be admonished? Doesnt he have a choice? Thanks for proving my point.
My mistake
Should have been WASN'T admonished by the commentators .

There is a clip out there that shows them defending him .
Hope that unproves your point with regards to my comment .
:lol: Beep. Beep. Beep. Vehicle Reversing.
Not at all
I make plenty of grammatical errors
Just ask other borders , its very common for me
I mean its not my mother tounge so i have an excuse.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:06 pm
by Ornchurch
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:02 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:00 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:58 pm

My mistake
Should have been WASN'T admonished by the commentators .

There is a clip out there that shows them defending him .
Hope that unproves your point with regards to my comment .
:lol: Beep. Beep. Beep. Vehicle Reversing.
Not at all
I make plenty of grammatical errors
Just ask other borders , its very common for me
I mean its not my mother tounge so i have an excuse.
:lol: :lol:

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm
by tuffers#1
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:41 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:33 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:30 pm

Oh the israel folau thing i responded to the last time you used it .

Nobody criticised him ,

it was discussed & he was admonished by the
Commentators.
Original quote

2nd line Nobody CRITICISED HIM !!

why would i say he was admonished after not being criticised ?

Simple incorrect was/wasnt usage !

Youll get it 1 day Orny

😁😁

go dtí sin

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm
by Dunners
I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.

"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.

The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.

Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:21 pm
by tuffers#1
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.

"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.

The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.

Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.


Makes me laugh when people over here start using the word

Antifa

Who ?

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.

"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.

The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.

Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.
Except Minneapolis has already voted to dismantle their police department. It's one of the reason's why the Democrats will lose this forthcoming November election. They seem to have completely lost the plot.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:41 pm
by tuffers#1
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.

"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.

The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.

Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.
Except Minneapolis has already voted to dismantle their police department. It's one of the reason's why the Democrats will lose this forthcoming November election. They seem to have completely lost the plot.
Didnt they say dismantle as it is now &
Replace it with something new ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/us/m ... olish.html

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:51 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.
That's right, there was no division up until those BLM bastards started their marching and statue-toppling.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:06 pm
by Chicken Dhansak
RedO wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:51 pm
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.
That's right, there was no division up until those BLM bastards started their marching and statue-toppling.
Wow! That's a bit strong, fella.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:11 pm
by Ornchurch
Chicken Dhansak wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:06 pm
RedO wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:51 pm
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.
That's right, there was no division up until those BLM bastards started their marching and statue-toppling.
Wow! That's a bit strong, fella.
Dont panic!! Leftie being sarcastic. :lol:

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:23 pm
by tuffers#1
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:11 pm
Chicken Dhansak wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:06 pm
RedO wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:51 pm

That's right, there was no division up until those BLM bastards started their marching and statue-toppling.
Wow! That's a bit strong, fella.
Dont panic!! Leftie being sarcastic. :lol:
Says the Biggest Rightie on here

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:30 pm
by Ornchurch
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:23 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:11 pm
Chicken Dhansak wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:06 pm

Wow! That's a bit strong, fella.
Dont panic!! Leftie being sarcastic. :lol:
Says the Biggest Rightie on here
:lol: :lol:

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:37 pm
by tuffers#1
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:30 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:23 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:11 pm

Dont panic!! Leftie being sarcastic. :lol:
Says the Biggest Rightie on here
:lol: :lol:
Good effort

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:41 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:30 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:23 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:11 pm

Dont panic!! Leftie being sarcastic. :lol:
Says the Biggest Rightie on here
:lol: :lol:
I wouldn't say he's the 'biggest'.

There are some that are further right wing than he is.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:45 pm
by Beradogs
Hi

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:53 pm
by Sailor
All lives matter.

Not just ethnic lives.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:55 pm
by tuffers#1
RedO wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:41 pm
Ornchurch wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:30 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:23 pm

Says the Biggest Rightie on here
:lol: :lol:
I wouldn't say he's the 'biggest'.

There are some that are further right wing than he is.
Being a RIGHTIE is big enough

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:56 pm
by Long slender neck
Yes Sailor but they're saying 'black lives matter' because American cops are acting as if they don't.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:57 pm
by tuffers#1
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:56 pm Yes Sailor but they're saying 'black lives matter' because American cops are acting as if they don't.
There SPORTSMEN

not Sailors

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:13 pm
by Dunners
RedO wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:51 pm
Dunners wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.
That's right, there was no division up until those BLM bastards started their marching and statue-toppling.
Fair enough. "...causing even more division...." then.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:19 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Speaking of taking the knee, came across this image the other day

Image

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:26 pm
by Dunners
Awful carpet.

Re: "Taking the knee"

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:33 pm
by Sid Bishop
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:19 pm Speaking of taking the knee, came across this image the other day

Image
That made me laugh !