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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:40 pm It doesn’t matter. If Biden wants to be President he’s got to do the debates. If he can’t do it what chance would he have speaking with the likes of Putin and Jj Ping. They will make mincemeat out of him

Both Putin and Ping will be speaking via interpreters, and will be diplomatic. Trying to talk sensibly face to face on live tv with Trump is almost impossible because he just lies and blusters, is insulting and is incredibly evasive when you try and nail him down on any point. Watch that tv interview he did recently to see how bad he is when he’s facing an interviewer who’s giving him a slightly harder time than his favourite Fox host.

Cowardly if old Joe ducks it.

What's the problem going up against Donald if he's such a dummy?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:40 pm It doesn’t matter. If Biden wants to be President he’s got to do the debates. If he can’t do it what chance would he have speaking with the likes of Putin and Jj Ping. They will make mincemeat out of him

Maybe the Dems are taking a leaf out of Bojos book

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:40 pm It doesn’t matter. If Biden wants to be President he’s got to do the debates. If he can’t do it what chance would he have speaking with the likes of Putin and Jj Ping. They will make mincemeat out of him

I see the point you're trying to make (although it is very different), but really though no one is seriously saying he shouldn't. Look at the video of Pelosi saying it, she's just taking another opportunity to have a swipe at 45.

Also RD11, have a skim over this if you get the chance. I get the feeling you are somewhat pro-Trump or prefer him to Biden, although I might be wrong. Have a look; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_ ... nald_Trump
There comes a point with pathological liars where even when they are telling the truth it is tinged with lies.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:28 pm

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:42 am One innocent man was shot at point blank range in the back by police and another two were shot dead the other night as part of the protests against police brutality. Whilst a small group of protestors behaving atrociously is obviously unpleasant, feels a bit of a sideshow by comparison?

I havent looked into the events in great detail. But im not surprised the guy was shot because he was reaching into his vehicle, the cops will assume you're reaching for a weapon. In a country with guns dont take a chance, just comply.

The other shootings- not a good idea to charge at an incel holding a rifle. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/bre ... story.html

Getting shot 7 times in the back at point blank range whilst you have a load of colleagues around you, contrasted against this white teen killer walking towards the police armed with a semi automatic and people shouting he's the shooter, and the police ignoring him completely. One committed no crime, the other is being prosecuted for double homicide. One was no threat, the other about as threatening as a person can be.

I'm sure if there wasn't rioting the police would usually stop somebody walking down the street with a rifle.

But also he should have been arrested and I don't know why he wasn't. Whole thing is a failure of law and order

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:18 pm Cowardly if old Joe ducks it.

What's the problem going up against Donald if he's such a dummy?

This

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:48 pm I'm sure if there wasn't rioting the police would usually stop somebody walking down the street with a rifle.

Its how they stop them that differs

Just read on BBC news that Jacob Blake had already been tasered and a knife was found in his car. Sounds like the police have a reasonable defence to me, going by their rulebook.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:55 pm Just read on BBC news that Jacob Blake had already been tasered and a knife was found in his car. Sounds like the police have a reasonable defence to me, going by their rulebook.

They tasered him before he was shot 7 times in the back ?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:55 pm Just read on BBC news that Jacob Blake had already been tasered and a knife was found in his car. Sounds like the police have a reasonable defence to me, going by their rulebook.

If they’d already tasered him and he was still walking then yep, that’s a reasonable defence for shooting him. Seven times. In the back.

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:02 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:55 pm Just read on BBC news that Jacob Blake had already been tasered and a knife was found in his car. Sounds like the police have a reasonable defence to me, going by their rulebook.

If they’d already tasered him and he was still walking then yep, that’s a reasonable defence for shooting him. Seven times. In the back.

Why is it a good reason, " if he was still walking " ?

Basically if Mr Blake were​ white, he wouldn't have been shot seven times in the back.
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Police are called to a distressed woman who states her ex who has been charged with domestic violence and sexual offences against her is there and he shouldn't be. They try to arrest him and fail, they try to taser him but this fails to apprehend him (as per eyewitness who filmed the video)

Violent domestic sexual abuser suspect then makes his way to a vehicle where he has a knife (by his own admission). Suspect reaches for said knife. Eyewitness who filmed the video hears police officers shout "drop the knife", before they open fire. Upon neutralising the threat police have offered immediate first aid to the suspect before ambulance arrived

The person who shot the video, Raysean White, told CNN that before he began filming, he saw police wrestle, punch and taser Mr Blake.

It was then he started recording. Mr Blake is shown walking around the front of the SUV. The two officers closest to Mr Blake at this point on the video are white males.

Lawyers for Mr Blake have said he had been trying to "de-escalate a domestic incident" when police drew their weapons.

Kenosha Police do not have body cameras, although they do have microphones.


Mr Blake has since told investigators that he had a knife in his possession, and Mr Kaul said officers "recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard" of his car. They found no other weapon in the vehicle.


Admission of a knife happened after the incident & was not necessarily known
By the Police .

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... a-53909766

Biden's senility on show

That's why people , including myself think he's getting dementia .

Terrifying

Debates should be entertaining

It's going to be great, isn't it? We'll also get the spectacle of both side's supporters desperately trying to defend their candidate counter to all available evidence.

Not exactly Frost Nixon.