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Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:05 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:31 pm

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:15 pm

This is a bit of a misleading stat. He scored 6 in 9 for Hampton & Richmond and 2 in 2 for Dover. Most his loan spells have been just 2-3 games at a club.

He has got an impressive record over a limited number of appearances but a good mini-run below the Conference doesn’t mean he was always ready for League 2 football.

I hope he stays though

Er it's not misleading it's factual. He can only score goals at the level he is sent to play at!

Initially as a 17 year old making his first steps into senior football and ending up with a one in two record in a League two.

You make it sound like he scored consistently in his loan spells which isn’t the case. He was prolific at some clubs, others he failed to score at.

I agree it’s an excellent strike rate but the sample size and the level he was playing at doesn’t make it a strong argument for him to have played for us before he did

I pointed out his overall record which is a goal every two games, the higher he's played the better he's been. Keeping Alabi despite him being transfer listed and clubs willing to take him, when we has Matt Harold as a far better "big striker" option was madness. It stopped Sotiriou's development letting Alabi go iwould have allowed Ruel a place on the bench at the start of the season. It was also nuts to give out contract extensions like smarties to senior pros who were and have been injury prone and yet only a year to an up and coming young talent.

You can break down and dissect Sotiriou's goal scoring record anyway you like but it's probable one of the clubs best young striking talents for years is about to leave the club because of a skewed selection and contract policy.

DuvB wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:31 pm Two points against that Sid;

1. Embleton stated that he cant last 95 minutes as yet, both fitness-wise and with concentration - based on his Dover performances
2. If Happe stays, can we play two left footed centre halves together?

Also a Ogie is a left back. I know he's played centre half for the under 18s but it better to let him develop in his natural position.

The Club won't be selling our best players until most of us have renewed our season tickets
....... they're not stupid

PutneyO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:01 am The Club won't be selling our best players until most of us have renewed our season tickets
....... they're not stupid

Don’t you love a cynic.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:03 am

PutneyO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:01 am The Club won't be selling our best players until most of us have renewed our season tickets
....... they're not stupid

Don’t you love a cynic.

Has PoundhillO changed his Username ?

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:56 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:03 am

PutneyO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:01 am The Club won't be selling our best players until most of us have renewed our season tickets
....... they're not stupid

Don’t you love a cynic.

Has PoundhillO changed his Username ?

Nope, still the same.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:48 pm

DuvB wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:31 pm Two points against that Sid;

1. Embleton stated that he cant last 95 minutes as yet, both fitness-wise and with concentration - based on his Dover performances
2. If Happe stays, can we play two left footed centre halves together?

Also a Ogie is a left back. I know he's played centre half for the under 18s but it better to let him develop in his natural position.

Much of his time playing football has been at Centre Half, time will tell as to what his best position turns out to be. As a rule, harder to find centre halves than left backs and thus top centre halves tend to fetch higher transfer fees than left backs.

Widdowson has also played centre half for us

PutneyO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:01 am The Club won't be selling our best players until most of us have renewed our season tickets
....... they're not stupid

This indeed. If they are signing elsewhere then it'll be just after the early-bird discount period finishes.

All very worrying.

HeyO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:27 pm All very worrying.

sh*tting your pants?

DuvB wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:31 pm Two points against that Sid;

1. Embleton stated that he cant last 95 minutes as yet, both fitness-wise and with concentration - based on his Dover performances
2. If Happe stays, can we play two left footed centre halves together?

Is it you that used to go on about this?

Most teams will have two right footed centre halves. Just as most teams will have two right footed central midfielders and two right footed strikers.

No, but is does surprise me that you can get to be a pro footballer and not be able to use both feet (almost) equally well. Unless your name is Messi.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:12 am

HeyO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:27 pm All very worrying.

sh*tting your pants?

Gave that up.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:46 am

DuvB wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:31 pm Two points against that Sid;

1. Embleton stated that he cant last 95 minutes as yet, both fitness-wise and with concentration - based on his Dover performances
2. If Happe stays, can we play two left footed centre halves together?

Is it you that used to go on about this?

Most teams will have two right footed centre halves. Just as most teams will have two right footed central midfielders and two right footed strikers.

'We need a left-footed centre-back, keep going': Manchester United fans are convinced smiling Ole Gunnar Solskjaer cheekily tapped up Nathan Ake about Old Trafford switch after post-match footage emerges of pair talking after Bournemouth clash

DuvB wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:03 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:46 am

DuvB wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:31 pm Two points against that Sid;

1. Embleton stated that he cant last 95 minutes as yet, both fitness-wise and with concentration - based on his Dover performances
2. If Happe stays, can we play two left footed centre halves together?

Is it you that used to go on about this?

Most teams will have two right footed centre halves. Just as most teams will have two right footed central midfielders and two right footed strikers.

'We need a left-footed centre-back, keep going': Manchester United fans are convinced smiling Ole Gunnar Solskjaer cheekily tapped up Nathan Ake about Old Trafford switch after post-match footage emerges of pair talking after Bournemouth clash

We need a lot more than that

All very concerning.

It's ok, we're being linked with a 36 y/o winger from Wigan now

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:51 pm It's ok, we're being linked with a 36 y/o winger from Wigan now

viewtopic.php?p=120617#p120617

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:51 pm It's ok, we're being linked with a 36 y/o winger from Wigan now

So ridiculous. As if. Dont we only sign 38 year olds?

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:48 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:51 pm It's ok, we're being linked with a 36 y/o winger from Wigan now

viewtopic.php?p=120617#p120617

Correct, our favourite source EFL Hub!

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:20 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:48 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 1:51 pm It's ok, we're being linked with a 36 y/o winger from Wigan now

viewtopic.php?p=120617#p120617

Correct, our favourite source EFL Hub!

So why have a sulk about a 36 year old winger then instead of pouring cold water on it like you did when they linked us to someone decent?

I have a bad feeling about all this.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:57 am I have a bad feeling about all this.

What, that we will sign him?

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:57 am I have a bad feeling about all this.

But at least if it doesn't go according to plan, you can tell us you was right and that your ego will still be intact and you can claim the cerdit for being right.

At least you won't need to change your agenda mid summer.

I hope you're right, I don't like seeing a fellow big shot being proven wrong.