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Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:34 pm Judd is injured you idiots.

Again

He's made of glass, plays one game and done for weeks. That's perhaps why he isn't making his mark.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:34 pm Judd is injured you idiots.

This, He's injured again.

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:32 pm Alabi puts it wide from 5 yards out. Jesus.

Back on form, order in the Universe is restored

Should be an interesting post match interview ahead from Mr Fletcher!

FT didn't think that was going to happen. Did our defence improve in the second half, or did Argyle take their foot off the pedal?

cymruO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:43 pm FT didn't think that was going to happen. Did our defence improve in the second half, or did Argyle take their foot off the pedal?

Combination of both, plus the formation change and Dennis giving them something to think about when he came on

We were poor all over the place. Our midfield was missing and our defence not much better and the ref well that first goal has to be the worst decision I’ve seen in a long time.

Well Fletch, over to you son, you better get on that training pitch and sort out our deficiencies pretty dam quick.

Good luck old boy and up the o’s at least it can only get better as the song goes.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:45 pm

cymruO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:43 pm FT didn't think that was going to happen. Did our defence improve in the second half, or did Argyle take their foot off the pedal?

Combination of both, plus the formation change and Dennis giving them something to think about when he came on

Not sure why he didn’t start last Saturday either,

If Carl Fletcher didn’t know where are weaknesses are, he does now. It’s now down to him to try and put things right

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:55 pm If Carl Fletcher didn’t know where are weaknesses are, he does now. It’s now down to him to try and put things right

Embarrassing. I doubt he can.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:48 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:45 pm

cymruO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:43 pm FT didn't think that was going to happen. Did our defence improve in the second half, or did Argyle take their foot off the pedal?

Combination of both, plus the formation change and Dennis giving them something to think about when he came on

Not sure why he didn’t start last Saturday either,

Yep he was head and shoulders our best player when he came on, think he's better out wide right but he asked a few questions of Plymouth and gave Fletcher some food for thought.

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:48 pm We were poor all over the place. Our midfield was missing and our defence not much better and the ref well that first goal has to be the worst decision I’ve seen in a long time.

Well Fletch, over to you son, you better get on that training pitch and sort out our deficiencies pretty dam quick.

Good luck old boy and up the o’s at least it can only get better as the song goes.

I still think Plymouth will be right up there at seasons end massive difference in quality between them and Grimsby, Plymouth move that ball at pace and with purpose something we don't, we stop and pass back and across far too often, our attacks lose momentum and make it easy to defend against tbf our midfield was clueless tonight.

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:06 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:48 pm We were poor all over the place. Our midfield was missing and our defence not much better and the ref well that first goal has to be the worst decision I’ve seen in a long time.

Well Fletch, over to you son, you better get on that training pitch and sort out our deficiencies pretty dam quick.

Good luck old boy and up the o’s at least it can only get better as the song goes.

I still think Plymouth will be right up there at seasons end massive difference in quality between them and Grimsby, Plymouth move that ball at pace and with purpose something we don't, we stop and pass back and across far too often, our attacks lose momentum and make it easy to defend against tbf our midfield was clueless tonight.

You may be right about Plymouth, but the same thing was said about Swindon when they came to the O’s and demolished us and they have slumped since. We definitely have a problem this season in digging in after we concede and not letting in another goal quickly thereafter.

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:06 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:48 pm We were poor all over the place. Our midfield was missing and our defence not much better and the ref well that first goal has to be the worst decision I’ve seen in a long time.

Well Fletch, over to you son, you better get on that training pitch and sort out our deficiencies pretty dam quick.

Good luck old boy and up the o’s at least it can only get better as the song goes.

I still think Plymouth will be right up there at seasons end massive difference in quality between them and Grimsby, Plymouth move that ball at pace and with purpose something we don't, we stop and pass back and across far too often, our attacks lose momentum and make it easy to defend against tbf our midfield was clueless tonight.

If we have issues in midfield (OK I know we do) then Fletcher is ideally placed to recognise that. He will definitely get that area sorted in the same way Justin sorted our defence. Today’s loss is no big issue, in fact it may turn out to be a good eye opener for Fletcher and the catalyst for him to bring about change.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:18 pm

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:06 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:48 pm We were poor all over the place. Our midfield was missing and our defence not much better and the ref well that first goal has to be the worst decision I’ve seen in a long time.

Well Fletch, over to you son, you better get on that training pitch and sort out our deficiencies pretty dam quick.

Good luck old boy and up the o’s at least it can only get better as the song goes.

I still think Plymouth will be right up there at seasons end massive difference in quality between them and Grimsby, Plymouth move that ball at pace and with purpose something we don't, we stop and pass back and across far too often, our attacks lose momentum and make it easy to defend against tbf our midfield was clueless tonight.

If we have issues in midfield (OK I know we do) then Fletcher is ideally placed to recognise that. He will definitely get that area sorted in the same way Justin sorted our defence. Today’s loss is no big issue, in fact it may turn out to be a good eye opener for Fletcher and the catalyst for him to bring about change.

Going to need a transfer window first, don't think we have an effective pairing in the current squad and we need a plan B or teams will suss out the 4-3-3 very quickly.

No way Fletcher is responsible for that. A wake up call. Heads weren't right perhaps. This season two games in a week has been a problem. I wonder if they're fit enough?

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:00 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:48 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:45 pm

Combination of both, plus the formation change and Dennis giving them something to think about when he came on

Not sure why he didn’t start last Saturday either,

Yep he was head and shoulders our best player when he came on, think he's better out wide right but he asked a few questions of Plymouth and gave Fletcher some food for thought.

Needs to be out wide. In front of goal he can't hit the proverbial cow's bum with a banjo.

Rambling Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:28 pm No way Fletcher is responsible for that. A wake up call. Heads weren't right perhaps. This season two games in a week has been a problem. I wonder if they're fit enough?

This is the same set of players in the same formation that have just started to get things together, 10 points from 12 isn’t it?

The only difference is Fletcher was in charge tonight.

Given that the majority of the damage was done in the first half hour I would hope that the players fitness would not have been an issue. Obviously the opening goal was a handball and should not have stood and this may have affected the mindset of some of the team. That said, it doesn’t really excuse conceding another three goals in the next 30 minutes imho.

Milano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:56 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:53 pm I think it’s surprising to go with that shape or line up. Why Dayton is starting right now is beyond me, I really like him, but he’s been out injured for months and he’s straight back in, a mistake in my book.

l make you spot on.

A couple of s made that observation before this game.

Just got in from the game...took me an hour and a half to drive the 280 miles......I borrowed Spens car!!!

Nooooooo, im joking, i didnt go, too far. followed the game on twitter.

Terrible result, but we drew the second half 0-0. Same line up as at Grimsby...its hard to understand how that happened.

Last comment on the terrible decision by the ref not to rule out their first goal for handball...it was as blatant, as its possible to be.

If we had VAR in our league, it wouldnt have stood.

If we had a referee who actually had the power of sight it wouldn’t have stood!

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:35 pm

Rambling Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:28 pm No way Fletcher is responsible for that. A wake up call. Heads weren't right perhaps. This season two games in a week has been a problem. I wonder if they're fit enough?

This is the same set of players in the same formation that have just started to get things together, 10 points from 12 isn’t it?

The only difference is Fletcher was in charge tonight.

So if he hasn't changed anything what's he done wrong?

cymruO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:43 pm FT didn't think that was going to happen. Did our defence improve in the second half, or did Argyle take their foot off the pedal?

Argyle took off the 3 players who were ripping us a new one , Alabi was offside when he missed the sitter .....no excuse though .

Rambling Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:48 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:35 pm

Rambling Man wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:28 pm No way Fletcher is responsible for that. A wake up call. Heads weren't right perhaps. This season two games in a week has been a problem. I wonder if they're fit enough?

This is the same set of players in the same formation that have just started to get things together, 10 points from 12 isn’t it?

The only difference is Fletcher was in charge tonight.

So if he hasn't changed anything what's he done wrong?

No idea mate.

Only the players can tell you that.