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Some achieve more than one promotion at the same club or at least stabilise/ improve the team.
He appointed JE. Sort of destroys that post.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:44 pmCouldn’t agree more !Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:41 pm How bloody disappointing is that! For me anyway. It all goes back to this Dof position, and the Ling influence. I said it years ago that he would never choose anyone with a bit of character and experience. Protecting his own position is all that concerns him. I've hardly ever heard of the bloke. Gutted.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:52 pmHe appointed JE. Sort of destroys that post.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:44 pmCouldn’t agree more !Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:41 pm How bloody disappointing is that! For me anyway. It all goes back to this Dof position, and the Ling influence. I said it years ago that he would never choose anyone with a bit of character and experience. Protecting his own position is all that concerns him. I've hardly ever heard of the bloke. Gutted.
That would never be a good strategy and I doubt one the club would use, absolute vote of no confidence before the new guy even starts. He will get an appropriate and positive announcement by the club and should some fans be unhappy, tough.Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:45 pmI was just hypothesising, but it would be a good strategy given how embarrassing certain sections of our support can be.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:14 pmSo our board feel the need to leak the announcement to soften the reaction. Bloody hell, what a statement of failure.Red_Army wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:10 pm
What a load of absolute rubbish. We are not appointing a manager for the thrill of it. Who cares if the press have got there first? What is important is the outcome of the appointment.
Who knows, maybe the club have leaked it to 'soften' the reaction once it is announced.
No. It destroys that post. He employed someone of the type you said he never would, but he did.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:54 pmEven a broken clock is right twice a day.
He also bought Sam Ling and James AlabidOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:57 pmNo. It destroys that post. He employed someone of the type you said he never would, but he did.
Me too. But as Red Army points out, if we are going down the route of an inexperienced guy, this season is low risk so maybe it will work. Missed opportunity in my mind but if he is the man then so be it.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:03 pmNo it doesn’t. Totally underwhelming appointment. I’ll get behind him but at the moment I feel disappointed . Hope he proves me wrong.
No it doesn't, not at all. I knew someone would come up with that. Frank Clark was once touted as the next England boss because he got Forest promoted. Never heard of him again. Selection and management in football sometimes can 'go your way' for short periods of time in this game.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:52 pmHe appointed JE. Sort of destroys that post.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:44 pmCouldn’t agree more !Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:41 pm How bloody disappointing is that! For me anyway. It all goes back to this Dof position, and the Ling influence. I said it years ago that he would never choose anyone with a bit of character and experience. Protecting his own position is all that concerns him. I've hardly ever heard of the bloke. Gutted.
You said he would NEVER recruit someone with character and experience. He did.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:22 pmNo it doesn't, not at all. I knew someone would come up with that. Frank Clark was once touted as the next England boss because he got Forest promoted. Never heard of him again. Selection and management in football sometimes can 'go your way' for short periods of time in this game.
Or the cheapest.UpminsterO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:14 am None of us are perfect.
Whoever gets the gig and I mean whoever let's all cheer them unconditionally
The board have selected who they can and who they believe is the most suitable from all applicants
DeludedUpminsterO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:04 pmOoh it seems I was wrong then not terryBergen wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:00 pm CHERRIES loan manager Carl Fletcher has been offered the job as Leyton Orient boss, the Daily Echo understands.
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport ... ient-boss/
I thought you said the owners will find the best man and paying a extra few quid won’t be an issue
Well I said it we be the cheap option and so it is.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:41 pm So Ling has gone for a bloke who hasn’t managed in years and wasn’t good enough to manage an u23 team so they created an unnecessary role to keep him occupied. In Ling we trust.
This bloke has had two years at a club bigger than Orient at the same level, and he was hopeless and hasn’t managed anyone since.Wally Banter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:15 pm Didn't we have a rookie manager who took us from the bottom end of League 2 to promotion once, in his first manager role? Martin Something...?
So more experienced than the rookie who took us to promotion, glad you agree. It’s a decent point.Byways1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:02 pmThis bloke has had two years at a club bigger than Orient at the same level, and he was hopeless and hasn’t managed anyone since.Wally Banter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:15 pm Didn't we have a rookie manager who took us from the bottom end of League 2 to promotion once, in his first manager role? Martin Something...?
He joins a long list of crap managers we have had.EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:12 pm Looking at our managers over the last 20-30 years, can’t help but feel that the success rate of those appointments who have had experience and some success at the lower levels (e.g. Slade and Edinburgh) is far superior to those who didn’t tick those boxes.
Hence many of us thought that a good starting point was to follow the lessons of history. Fletcher doesn’t tick those boxes, some others did, but that’s not to say he won’t be a success, and if the appointment is confirmed he’ll have my full backing and will be given time I’m sure.
Byways1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:02 pmThis bloke has had two years at a club bigger than Orient at the same level, and he was hopeless and hasn’t managed anyone since.Wally Banter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:15 pm Didn't we have a rookie manager who took us from the bottom end of League 2 to promotion once, in his first manager role? Martin Something...?
Now resorting to nitpicking.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:35 pmYou said he would NEVER recruit someone with character and experience. He did.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:22 pmNo it doesn't, not at all. I knew someone would come up with that. Frank Clark was once touted as the next England boss because he got Forest promoted. Never heard of him again. Selection and management in football sometimes can 'go your way' for short periods of time in this game.
Changed your tune.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:06 pmSo more experienced than the rookie who took us to promotion, glad you agree. It’s a decent point.Byways1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:02 pmThis bloke has had two years at a club bigger than Orient at the same level, and he was hopeless and hasn’t managed anyone since.Wally Banter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:15 pm Didn't we have a rookie manager who took us from the bottom end of League 2 to promotion once, in his first manager role? Martin Something...?
Agree totally. May just as well have stuck with RE.Byways1 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:55 pmI thought you said the owners will find the best man and paying a extra few quid won’t be an issue
Blimey, he can’t have been first choice, I suggest about 5th.
They might as well left Ross in charge if this is the limit of their ambition.
Appalling appointment.