Independent Leyton Orient Forum

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:08 am If there us anyone here that studied politics at uni can they briefly explain how Boris who was not the leader at any general election continually acts as he is.
1. The bbc interviews / his speeches describe the latest proposal as "MY" as if there is no cabinet and the proposal is by him not that group,
2. Continually defiant and appearing to be attempting to manipulating the views of the other MPs on their latest "vote"
3. Disrupted parliament with its recent lapse based on the need for a queens speech using reference to some century old process
4. Gets away with the police visiting the flat - no relevance, now today I read the woman that got that grant was a dancer then a IT company owner and she states they were in a relationship
5. How does one person get to be major and then prime minister when there are so other applicants.

I'm not a labour voter

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:17 am Dis my troller ok I was hoping a person with greater basic intelligence than you may be interested in answering but hey thanks for your reply I really appreciated your effort
Not being a labour voter does not mean I support the blue lot or any of them they are all a bit like you - plenty to say, but not much in the words of any worth

slacker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:10 pm Heh - Speaker Bercow is going to have the Brexit Spartans blow a gasket by refusing to allow Johnson to try his luck on his deal again today after he withdrew it Saturday. No doubt the usual Tory Rags will be fuming about traitors and “will of the people” frustraters again.

I guess it will allow MPs some time to actually read & consider it, plus permit considered amendments to be debated when it’s brought back.

slacker wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:59 pm Caca: Johnson’s deal was amended by Letwin, and then “passed” without a division or a vote. Which is why the Speaker followed usual protocol and didn’t allow it to be re-voted today without the amendment. But don’t worry - Moggy says the Withdrawal Bill will be given a 2nd reading tomorrow, and he reckons it will all be done and dusted at its 3rd reading on Thursday, so we'll have Johnson’s lovely deal passed as legislation in all its glory. Making us a truly Great Nation once again from Friday onwards...

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:35 pm So the EU will grant us an extension, which is so very nice of them. However, they won't tell us for how long until steptoe decides if he's gonna man up and front the electorate.

The man is weak, the man is scared let the people decide who they want to implement brexit and the trouble is he knows he's gonna get labour annihilated in the election.

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:35 pm So the EU will grant us an extension, which is so very nice of them. However, they won't tell us for how long until steptoe decides if he's gonna man up and front the electorate.

The man is weak, the man is scared let the people decide who they want to implement brexit and the trouble is he knows he's gonna get labour annihilated in the election.

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:35 pm So the EU will grant us an extension, which is so very nice of them. However, they won't tell us for how long until steptoe decides if he's gonna man up and front the electorate.

The man is weak, the man is scared let the people decide who they want to implement brexit and the trouble is he knows he's gonna get labour annihilated in the election.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:16 pm I am wondering if politicians like Mogg and labour have plenty too, have ever been employed in a real commercial industry or environment and experienced the accountability of real work

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:54 pm Dont forget it's the other party idiots who have done their best to stop Brexit, so don't try and tell me it's all the tories fault. Yeah sure they've not covered themselves in glory, but to force away your strongest hand (no deal) is stupidity in the extreme. Labour and all the others will face a massive day of reckoning at the next election.

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:30 pm I never said we should go no deal, what we could and should have done was to utilise that card when negotiating a deal. To withdraw that threat was stupid in the extreme.

The facts are that the forecasts that the government and independents have done suggest that it's been over played, so at one point we would crash by 9% that's down to just under 5% and I'm sure it would not be even that hard by the time we get our arses in to gear. Europe know we will fly once this is done, they don't want to see that as it will increase pressure on others to do the same.

They need us more than we need them.

Mikero wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:28 pm "Labour and all the others will face a massive day of reckoning at the next election."

Why? This is a General Election not a Brexit Election. Do you expect the voting public to ignore the abysmal record of this government entirely? Naive.

Mikero

Thor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:48 pm

Mikero wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:28 pm "Labour and all the others will face a massive day of reckoning at the next election."

Why? This is a General Election not a Brexit Election. Do you expect the voting public to ignore the abysmal record of this government entirely? Naive.

Mikero

Firstly that is exactly what will happen.

Secondly whilst the government could have done better I'd suggest they have not done too bad either.

France has been in recession since our last one
Italy is currently in recession
Spanish recession went on for 6 years
Germany has just entered into recession

We have one of the lowest out of work numbers ever
We have the highest numbers in work ever
The economy is growing annually
Interest rates remain low
Budget deficit is down by 2 3rds I believe
Record inward investment, yeah those pesky people outside of this great country have faith in us more than people like you
The worjds largest sovereign fund has parked it in the uk for the next 20 to 30 years cos they like to lose money dont they?

Infrastructure projects are being done throughout the country and a platform is being built to help people outside the south to gain some of the money flowing on to be spread further and better balancing the wealth gap.

Are there things that could be improved or done better? Of course there is, but the government inherited a wrecked economy which took time to fix, but as a country we are now better placed to face the future one which is free once more from a federal superstate.

Have some faith in your fellow countrymen and women, the future is bright and its gonna be painted red, white and blue.