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Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:45 pm
by Hoover Attack
The Reverend wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:11 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:40 am It absolutely - and understandably - riles Richie when no-marks on here question his judgement.
But why? The bloke had a decent career as professional player and has had a few managerial jobs now. Is he seriously thin skinned enough to care what people on here write? I find that very hard to believe.
Maybe listen to his interviews on Orient World. He has often commented on remarks made by fans about his decisions.

The fact he had a decent career as a professional (and let's be honest, the reason he played top flight football was his understanding of the game, not his athleticism or technical ability) is exactly why he gets riled up by know-nothing no marks genuinely believing they know more than him.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:17 pm
by Long slender neck
Bichie takes a back seat and suddenly our form improves dramatically. Funny that.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:30 pm
by Pugwash
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:17 pm Bichie takes a back seat and suddenly our form improves dramatically. Funny that.
First suggested on this very board I think

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:31 pm
by Max B Gold
Hoover Attack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:45 pm
The Reverend wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:11 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:40 am It absolutely - and understandably - riles Richie when no-marks on here question his judgement.
But why? The bloke had a decent career as professional player and has had a few managerial jobs now. Is he seriously thin skinned enough to care what people on here write? I find that very hard to believe.
Maybe listen to his interviews on Orient World. He has often commented on remarks made by fans about his decisions.

The fact he had a decent career as a professional (and let's be honest, the reason he played top flight football was his understanding of the game, not his athleticism or technical ability) is exactly why he gets riled up by know-nothing no marks genuinely believing they know more than him.
Commenting on fans remarks and getting riled by them isn't very professional. He should try to understand that.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:52 pm
by BoniO
This thread is taking an unexpectedly surreal direction......

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:08 pm
by OyinbO
Just had a text from Richie, totally out of the blue, which I reproduce in full and verbatim for you here:

“Will you tell those clowns on the message board to give their head a wobble? I’ve been reading everything they say for months now and they need to understand I don’t give a toss what any of them think, least of all you!”

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:24 pm
by Long slender neck
I wonder if our summer recruitment was delayed because somebody was away having a hair transplant?

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:16 pm
by The Reverend
Hoover Attack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:45 pm
The Reverend wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:11 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:40 am It absolutely - and understandably - riles Richie when no-marks on here question his judgement.
But why? The bloke had a decent career as professional player and has had a few managerial jobs now. Is he seriously thin skinned enough to care what people on here write? I find that very hard to believe.
Maybe listen to his interviews on Orient World. He has often commented on remarks made by fans about his decisions.

The fact he had a decent career as a professional (and let's be honest, the reason he played top flight football was his understanding of the game, not his athleticism or technical ability) is exactly why he gets riled up by know-nothing no marks genuinely believing they know more than him.
That just makes it even stranger. Surely a guy who has been heavily involved in professional football for a quarter of a century should have learnt by now that putting up with know-nothing loudmouths opining is part and parcel of the job. Surely he has learnt to just ignore it by now?

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:00 pm
by Eggski
He text me he loves me and the baby jesus. That was nice of him.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:39 am
by Hoover Attack
Long slender neck wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:24 pm I wonder if our summer recruitment was delayed because somebody was away having a hair transplant?
They do have phones and email in Turkey.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:40 am
by Hoover Attack
The Reverend wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:16 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:45 pm
The Reverend wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:11 pm

But why? The bloke had a decent career as professional player and has had a few managerial jobs now. Is he seriously thin skinned enough to care what people on here write? I find that very hard to believe.
Maybe listen to his interviews on Orient World. He has often commented on remarks made by fans about his decisions.

The fact he had a decent career as a professional (and let's be honest, the reason he played top flight football was his understanding of the game, not his athleticism or technical ability) is exactly why he gets riled up by know-nothing no marks genuinely believing they know more than him.
That just makes it even stranger. Surely a guy who has been heavily involved in professional football for a quarter of a century should have learnt by now that putting up with know-nothing loudmouths opining is part and parcel of the job. Surely he has learnt to just ignore it by now?
Ok 👍

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:22 pm
by Bandy Legs

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 4:24 pm
by Lifelongfan
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:54 pm
DrWindy wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:50 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:46 pm

I've it before and I'll say it again , Richie is one of the best managers this club has ever had . If Richie left we'd get relegated for sure . I don't blame the manager for our blight , I blame the board . Our recruitment during the Summer was pants . You could see we were going to hit trouble by the calibre of signings we were making . TBH, I can't see our recruitment being any better in January so we're in deep sh*t this season .
Why blame the board for our recruitment?
Lack of funds . We couldn't compete during the Summer in the transfer market and so now we can't compete on the pitch . I'm not talking about the likes of Birmingham and Wrexham but clubs like Mansfield and Bristol Rovers who we couldn't compete with . Now we're paying for it .
Mansfield Bristol Rovers LOL

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:10 pm
by Lifelongfan
gshaw wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:16 pm
Bandy Legs wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:08 pm 6 loanees gives us cover all over the pitch.
Bring in only 2 players on contracts we lose cover.
Hemming being sh*t didn't help so we had to get Keely .
Comes back to whether they're actually good enough to be useful though or just padding out bench places.

Hemming - no comment
Keeley - promising
Currie - good (though should be signing a permanent LB)
Donley - first time loan, struggling
Perkins - first time loan to all intents, struggling
Kelman - current top scorer

So would you take 3 loanees and one quality pro or those 6 but only half are really performing at the level required.

The other thing Richie has touched on is come summer you also end up with far too much squad churn, especially in those spine positions like the GK and LB. Think it works out we'll need10+ players come summer between loans and contracts ending.
Donley- struggling?

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:13 pm
by Lifelongfan
Hoover Attack wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:52 pm
PoundhillO wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:45 pm
essexfootball wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 10:42 pm Can't constantly blame recruitment, there are about 15 very very average teams in this league
Recruitment is down to unrealistic budget needed to bring in the quality of players needed at this level, that’s totally down to NT.You can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear, in my opinion NT is way out of his depth and should have looked for massive investment as soon as we were promoted to League 1.
The budget level is fine. It’s just being wasted.

This season we are paying Moncur, Piggot, Theo, Graham, Donley and Hemming, all of whom are contributing the sum total of zero to our efforts. You then have the likes of Warrington and Perkins who Richie hasn’t trusted to start games until recently (and having seen them play, he was right). Then you have DJ, who Richie still doesn’t trust to start a game.
Donley contributing zero LOL

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:17 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Yes , this thread hasn’t worn well ….thankfully.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:17 pm
by Proposition Joe
Desperate stuff. Even Wellens has been super clear about how much Donley has improved over the past few months, nothing you're highlighting is a) wrong or b) equal to people saying Wellens was rubbish and should be sacked.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:23 pm
by Wally Banter
I wonder what changed for Hoover between:

- Nov’24: saying that Ling and others needed to look at themselves for the terrible recruitment
- Feb’25: saying that Ling’s only role in recruitment is the paperwork.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:13 pm
by Hoover Attack
Lifelongfan wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:10 pm
gshaw wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:16 pm
Bandy Legs wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:08 pm 6 loanees gives us cover all over the pitch.
Bring in only 2 players on contracts we lose cover.
Hemming being sh*t didn't help so we had to get Keely .
Comes back to whether they're actually good enough to be useful though or just padding out bench places.

Hemming - no comment
Keeley - promising
Currie - good (though should be signing a permanent LB)
Donley - first time loan, struggling
Perkins - first time loan to all intents, struggling
Kelman - current top scorer

So would you take 3 loanees and one quality pro or those 6 but only half are really performing at the level required.

The other thing Richie has touched on is come summer you also end up with far too much squad churn, especially in those spine positions like the GK and LB. Think it works out we'll need10+ players come summer between loans and contracts ending.
Donley- struggling?
Yes he was, very much. So much so that he wasn’t featuring and Richie gave him a rocket.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:21 pm
by Chief crazy horse
Hoover Attack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:45 pm
The Reverend wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:11 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:40 am It absolutely - and understandably - riles Richie when no-marks on here question his judgement.
But why? The bloke had a decent career as professional player and has had a few managerial jobs now. Is he seriously thin skinned enough to care what people on here write? I find that very hard to believe.
Maybe listen to his interviews on Orient World. He has often commented on remarks made by fans about his decisions.

The fact he had a decent career as a professional (and let's be honest, the reason he played top flight football was his understanding of the game, not his athleticism or technical ability) is exactly why he gets riled up by know-nothing no marks genuinely believing they know more than him.
That's a surprise.. how many seasons did he play in the top flight?

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:22 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Richie should just sign up here and get involved

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:30 pm
by The Reverend
Proposition Joe wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:17 pm Desperate stuff. Even Wellens has been super clear about how much Donley has improved over the past few months, nothing you're highlighting is a) wrong or b) equal to people saying Wellens was rubbish and should be sacked.
Today is turning into a very strange day because I agree with everything you’ve just said her. Very well put.

Digging up comments people made when we were in a bad run of form now that we are on a good run to say “haha look how wrong you are” is immensely stupid.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:42 pm
by Hoover Attack
Wally Banter wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:23 pm I wonder what changed for Hoover between:

- Nov’24: saying that Ling and others needed to look at themselves for the terrible recruitment
- Feb’25: saying that Ling’s only role in recruitment is the paperwork.
Relentless.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:47 pm
by Max B Gold
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:42 pm
Wally Banter wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:23 pm I wonder what changed for Hoover between:

- Nov’24: saying that Ling and others needed to look at themselves for the terrible recruitment
- Feb’25: saying that Ling’s only role in recruitment is the paperwork.
Relentless.
You've missed the bit where he says Perkins is rubbish back in late '24 and his new found wonderment at how good he is in 'early 25.

Re: HOW LONG NOW FOR RICHIE

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:55 pm
by Berin
Max B Gold wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:47 pm
Hoover Attack wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:42 pm
Wally Banter wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:23 pm I wonder what changed for Hoover between:

- Nov’24: saying that Ling and others needed to look at themselves for the terrible recruitment
- Feb’25: saying that Ling’s only role in recruitment is the paperwork.
Relentless.
You've missed the bit where he says Perkins is rubbish back in late '24 and his new found wonderment at how good he is in 'early 25.
Perkins is still, comparatively, rubbish. He's just playing in a very good team.