Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:11 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:38 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:14 am

Nice swerve,now answer my question why wasn’t Kelman one of the two transfers targets in the January window when given the choice if he were that good ? It’s much easier to attack someone’s personally and opinion but not answer my question. So answer it.

Funny how quick people like you come back with some sort personal attack yet can’t have a serious debate about footballing matters. So what’s your answer ????

Unlike you I don’t sit on the computer all day posting (mainly crap tbh), I have other priorities and believe me you are right at the bottom of my list.

He wanted to sign Kelman last pre-season but QPR wanted to keep him and he was/is in contract. Wigan went in for a loan after Christmas and he was allowed to go there in the second window so he wasn’t available to us in January as Wigan had first dibs.

Personal attacks what a load of bull shine, Coming from Mr “Say it to my face” that’s pure hypocricy. You keyboard worrier you anytime somebody disagrees with you it’s personal and you want to fight them what a man child you are, still carryon digging out the club staff and players, or for a change get behind them.

Wigan did not have first dibs so answer the question instead of being personal. Waiting

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:24 pm Wonder why RW doesn't fancy Obiero, Sweeney, Jayesimi and Agyei ?

Sweeney is not good enough as you probably know nor is Jayesimi. Obiero has just been unlucky plus there’s two in front of him. Agyei is not being played in the right position or in a settled position however he looks like a player that wants away to me?

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:27 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:11 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:38 am

Funny how quick people like you come back with some sort personal attack yet can’t have a serious debate about footballing matters. So what’s your answer ????

Unlike you I don’t sit on the computer all day posting (mainly crap tbh), I have other priorities and believe me you are right at the bottom of my list.

He wanted to sign Kelman last pre-season but QPR wanted to keep him and he was/is in contract. Wigan went in for a loan after Christmas and he was allowed to go there in the second window so he wasn’t available to us in January as Wigan had first dibs.

Personal attacks what a load of bull shine, Coming from Mr “Say it to my face” that’s pure hypocricy. You keyboard worrier you anytime somebody disagrees with you it’s personal and you want to fight them what a man child you are, still carryon digging out the club staff and players, or for a change get behind them.

Wigan did not have first dibs so answer the question instead of being personal. Waiting

Really - Prove it.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:27 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:11 am

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:38 am

Funny how quick people like you come back with some sort personal attack yet can’t have a serious debate about footballing matters. So what’s your answer ????

Unlike you I don’t sit on the computer all day posting (mainly crap tbh), I have other priorities and believe me you are right at the bottom of my list.

He wanted to sign Kelman last pre-season but QPR wanted to keep him and he was/is in contract. Wigan went in for a loan after Christmas and he was allowed to go there in the second window so he wasn’t available to us in January as Wigan had first dibs.

Personal attacks what a load of bull shine, Coming from Mr “Say it to my face” that’s pure hypocricy. You keyboard worrier you anytime somebody disagrees with you it’s personal and you want to fight them what a man child you are, still carryon digging out the club staff and players, or for a change get behind them.

Wigan did not have first dibs so answer the question instead of being personal. Waiting

Answer the football question.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:34 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:24 pm Wonder why RW doesn't fancy Obiero, Sweeney, Jayesimi and Agyei ?

Sweeney is not good enough as you probably know nor is Jayesimi. Obiero has just been unlucky plus there’s two in front of him. Agyei is not being played in the right position or in a settled position however he looks like a player that wants away to me?

No, I don’t think Agyei wants away but you’re right that he’s being played out of position. I really like Obiero but like you said he’s just been very unlucky . However if he can keep progressing the way he has he’s destined to play at a higher level. From what I’ve seen from DJ and Sweeney they are both not good enough for League One.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:48 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:27 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:11 am

Unlike you I don’t sit on the computer all day posting (mainly crap tbh), I have other priorities and believe me you are right at the bottom of my list.

He wanted to sign Kelman last pre-season but QPR wanted to keep him and he was/is in contract. Wigan went in for a loan after Christmas and he was allowed to go there in the second window so he wasn’t available to us in January as Wigan had first dibs.

Personal attacks what a load of bull shine, Coming from Mr “Say it to my face” that’s pure hypocricy. You keyboard worrier you anytime somebody disagrees with you it’s personal and you want to fight them what a man child you are, still carryon digging out the club staff and players, or for a change get behind them.

Wigan did not have first dibs so answer the question instead of being personal. Waiting

Answer the football question.

I did -but it's like trying to debate with a Five year Old Wellen's wanted Charlie last year but he signed a new contract and QPR wanted to keep him, he lost his place in the team and Wigan enquired and were given first refusal in January. I see your latest revelation is you think "Dan A wants away" More muck spreading. Criticise Wellens for in your words "dicking him about" Almost every O's fan I know fully trusts Wellens judgement but then I wouldn't call you a fan or supporter.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:58 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:48 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:27 pm

Wigan did not have first dibs so answer the question instead of being personal. Waiting

Answer the football question.

I did -but it's like trying to debate with a Five year Old Wellen's wanted Charlie last year but he signed a new contract and QPR wanted to keep him, he lost his place in the team and Wigan enquired and were given first refusal in January. I see your latest revelation is you think "Dan A wants away" More muck spreading. Criticise Wellens for in your words "dicking him about" Almost every O's fan I know fully trusts Wellens judgement but then I wouldn't call you a fan or supporter.

As per usual you get personal and don’t actually read my posts properly. I said he looks like a player that wants away not a player that’s asked to go.so let’s stick to the football. Wellens was asked if Kelman was a transfer target that he wanted in January and he said “no” fact. I’m in my rights to criticise Wellens if I want to, but actually I think he’s a very good manager or are you going to twist that in some way or get personal yet again. Wellens is extremely good at coaching,spotting defenders and midfielders but very poor at spotting a decent forward or goalkeeper. If you think that Drinnan and Kelman and some of the other dross that’s played as a central striker since he’s been manager then more fool you. Now read it again then again and answer my football question if you can.

He said no because he had enquired and was told Kelman was going to Wigan, they beat us to it . Otherwise he would have been back here.

The one thing you can’t get in the current market is a cheap prolific striker they cost the sort of money we haven’t got, you want Kelman gone (your words from Saturday) who would you sign who is available who in your opinion should we sign on loan who is better?

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:25 pm He said no because he had enquired and was told Kelman was going to Wigan, they beat us to it . Otherwise he would have been back here.

The one thing you can’t get in the current market is a cheap prolific striker they cost the sort of money we haven’t got, you want Kelman gone (your words from Saturday) who would you sign who is available who in your opinion should we sign on loan who is better?

At last a non personal reply relating to football. I think you will find that Kelman was available, However we will let that go, who would I sign if available on loan in the window. Easy, Ballard, who is now at Blackpool on loan, however I don’t know if he’s out of the team through injury or just not picked. That was and should have been the player we should have signed instead of Kelman.%100

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:42 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:25 pm He said no because he had enquired and was told Kelman was going to Wigan, they beat us to it . Otherwise he would have been back here.

The one thing you can’t get in the current market is a cheap prolific striker they cost the sort of money we haven’t got, you want Kelman gone (your words from Saturday) who would you sign who is available who in your opinion should we sign on loan who is better?

At last a non personal reply relating to football. I think you will find that Kelman was available, However we will let that go, who would I sign if available on loan in the window. Easy, Ballard, who is now at Blackpool on loan, however I don’t know if he’s out of the team through injury or just not picked. That was and should have been the player we should have signed instead of Kelman.%100

Richie wanted Kelman in Jan. Wigan got in there before us. RW loves CK

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:42 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:25 pm He said no because he had enquired and was told Kelman was going to Wigan, they beat us to it . Otherwise he would have been back here.

The one thing you can’t get in the current market is a cheap prolific striker they cost the sort of money we haven’t got, you want Kelman gone (your words from Saturday) who would you sign who is available who in your opinion should we sign on loan who is better?

At last a non personal reply relating to football. I think you will find that Kelman was available, However we will let that go, who would I sign if available on loan in the window. Easy, Ballard, who is now at Blackpool on loan, however I don’t know if he’s out of the team through injury or just not picked. That was and should have been the player we should have signed instead of Kelman.%100

Ballard only became available about three weeks into the season, he was recovering from injury, so wasn’t really an option in pre season, tidy player mind. Well done for controlling yourself and not posting a say it to my face reply for once.

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:20 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:42 pm

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:25 pm He said no because he had enquired and was told Kelman was going to Wigan, they beat us to it . Otherwise he would have been back here.

The one thing you can’t get in the current market is a cheap prolific striker they cost the sort of money we haven’t got, you want Kelman gone (your words from Saturday) who would you sign who is available who in your opinion should we sign on loan who is better?

At last a non personal reply relating to football. I think you will find that Kelman was available, However we will let that go, who would I sign if available on loan in the window. Easy, Ballard, who is now at Blackpool on loan, however I don’t know if he’s out of the team through injury or just not picked. That was and should have been the player we should have signed instead of Kelman.%100

Ballard only became available about three weeks into the season, he was recovering from injury, so wasn’t really an option in pre season, tidy player mind. Well done for controlling yourself and not posting a say it to my face reply for once.

Say it to my face

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:34 am

Story of O wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:30 am I wonder why Wellens did not want Kelman in January, but then changed his mind in the Summer

You know as well as me,finance

Such a weird narrative you have about Richie wanting Charlie. He’s stated about 15 times how much he rates him. Even so much that he’s acknowledged the fan base wasn’t impressed with the signing but that Charlie is a “player”. I don’t understand why are are making up that Richie doesn’t want him

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:30 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:34 am

Story of O wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:30 am I wonder why Wellens did not want Kelman in January, but then changed his mind in the Summer

You know as well as me,finance

Such a weird narrative you have about Richie wanting Charlie. He’s stated about 15 times how much he rates him. Even so much that he’s acknowledged the fan base wasn’t impressed with the signing but that Charlie is a “player”. I don’t understand why are are making up that Richie doesn’t want him

You have to be on a wind up

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:35 pm

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:30 pm

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:34 am

You know as well as me,finance

Such a weird narrative you have about Richie wanting Charlie. He’s stated about 15 times how much he rates him. Even so much that he’s acknowledged the fan base wasn’t impressed with the signing but that Charlie is a “player”. I don’t understand why are are making up that Richie doesn’t want him

You have to be on a wind up

Please, tell me why.

You’ve plucked a quote out of the air about the Richie saying the club weren’t after Kelman in Jan as evidence he doesn’t want him now despite Kelman literally being Richie’s pet. He didn’t even give him any stick for missing on Saturday which he would have done with any other player.

Obviously Wellens is on a wind up

I’m amongst all the sh*t posted on here, the suggestion that Richie didn’t want Kelman and Agyei wants away are two of the biggest, steamiest logs.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:24 pm Wonder why RW doesn't fancy Obiero, Sweeney, Jayesimi and Agyei ?

Too inexperienced, not good enough, not fit enough and not applicable as he starts most games (though must be said appears to be less fit than last year when he was returning from injury, go figure)