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Not wanting the club to sign a racist = isn’t a Leyton Orient fanGeorge M wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:00 pmNot sure why you contribute then. It’s a LOFC fans forum. You clearly are not one and if you are , probably not one the club cares about losing.
Were you against anti-Bechetti chat on forums? Or did you think everyone should blindly support the club back then too?George M wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:00 pmNot sure why you contribute then. It’s a LOFC fans forum. You clearly are not one and if you are , probably not one the club cares about losing.
I’m not here to help either party forget what that dickhead did. I didn’t keep quiet about John Terry and Luis Suarez either.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 4:09 pmwhy do you care if you're not here to help Orient?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 4:03 pmWhy is that Orient’s job? He’s clearly not needed by the club given little he played last season and the 1 year deal he has for nextRubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 2:56 pm
Rehabilitating someone on the path to redemption is bad pr? I think not
Orient fans always support the club. Issues of players ownership etc will never stop that. The pitch invasion should show you thatBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:14 pmWere you against anti-Bechetti chat on forums? Or did you think everyone should blindly support the club back then too?
I Suppose you think Mandela was only a terrorist if you think I am promoting racism?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:17 pmI’m not here to help either party forget what that dickhead did. I didn’t keep quiet about John Terry and Luis Suarez either.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 4:09 pmwhy do you care if you're not here to help Orient?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 4:03 pm
Why is that Orient’s job? He’s clearly not needed by the club given little he played last season and the 1 year deal he has for next
If you’re happy promoting racism, that’s on you
So if you disagree with something, you should just shut up about it and lump it?Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:25 pmMoaning about it won't get rid of himHoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:22 pmNor should they have to if they feel that strongly about it.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:19 pm Jack Simpson made an awful racist remark for which we was rightfully punished. Some think he should never play again, some think he deserves a second chance, but not with us. Others think that having apologised and made efforts with the local community, now is the time to look forwards rather than backwards. I think that summarises it, although I am sure that won't end it, as some just won't let it go.
"I'm not here to help eiter party" suggests he is not an Orient fan.The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:09 pmNot wanting the club to sign a racist = isn’t a Leyton Orient fan
Properly wild leap that one.
Where did I say any of that?Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:24 pmSo if you disagree with something, you should just shut up about it and lump it?Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:25 pmMoaning about it won't get rid of himHoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:22 pm
Nor should they have to if they feel that strongly about it.
That's not how it works. Biggsys opinion is valid and one he's perfectly entitled to voice.
Getting a match abandoned doesn’t help the teamRubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:19 pmOrient fans always support the club. Issues of players ownership etc will never stop that. The pitch invasion should show you thatBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:14 pmWere you against anti-Bechetti chat on forums? Or did you think everyone should blindly support the club back then too?
Comparing Mandela and apartheid to Orient signing a player who called his team mate a “dirty p***” is one of the more ridiculous things posted on this forumRubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:22 pmI Suppose you think Mandela was only a terrorist if you think I am promoting racism?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:17 pmI’m not here to help either party forget what that dickhead did. I didn’t keep quiet about John Terry and Luis Suarez either.
If you’re happy promoting racism, that’s on you
It wasnt abandonedBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:12 pmGetting a match abandoned doesn’t help the teamRubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:19 pmOrient fans always support the club. Issues of players ownership etc will never stop that. The pitch invasion should show you thatBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:14 pm
Were you against anti-Bechetti chat on forums? Or did you think everyone should blindly support the club back then too?
Only having one view is far more ridiculous, but you keep going with it while Jack Simpson gets on with his Orient careerBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:16 pmComparing Mandela and apartheid to Orient signing a player who called his team mate a “dirty p***” is one of the more ridiculous things posted on this forumRubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:22 pmI Suppose you think Mandela was only a terrorist if you think I am promoting racism?BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:17 pm
I’m not here to help either party forget what that dickhead did. I didn’t keep quiet about John Terry and Luis Suarez either.
If you’re happy promoting racism, that’s on you
The game wasn’t finished with fans in the ground. So, Orient fans failed to make any mark.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:18 pmIt wasnt abandonedBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:12 pmGetting a match abandoned doesn’t help the teamRubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:19 pm
Orient fans always support the club. Issues of players ownership etc will never stop that. The pitch invasion should show you that
I don’t have any view on Mandela as a person. I am against apartheid, sounds like you’re all for it, going by your posts.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:22 pmOnly having one view is far more ridiculous, but you keep going with it while Jack Simpson gets on with his Orient careerBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:16 pmComparing Mandela and apartheid to Orient signing a player who called his team mate a “dirty p***” is one of the more ridiculous things posted on this forumRubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 5:22 pm
I Suppose you think Mandela was only a terrorist if you think I am promoting racism?
Game wasn't abandoned & O's fans made a mark. watch riots & relegation to see thatBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:23 pmThe game wasn’t finished with fans in the ground. So, Orient fans failed to make any mark.
White racist south africa jailed him, non racist south africa made him the president, opinions changed. unlikely you have that capabilityBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:24 pmI don’t have any view on Mandela as a person. I am against apartheid, sounds like you’re all for it, going by your posts.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:22 pmOnly having one view is far more ridiculous, but you keep going with it while Jack Simpson gets on with his Orient careerBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:16 pm
Comparing Mandela and apartheid to Orient signing a player who called his team mate a “dirty p***” is one of the more ridiculous things posted on this forum
Blimey. I 100% agree with all of this. Very well articulated.CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:50 pm Long and short of it is the club can sign a guy who has done this if they believe it’s worth the damage to relations with the fans that take exception. The fans who take exception are under no obligation to get onboard if they feel that the club’s stance is wrong.
The people who made these decisions will have done so in the knowledge some people would object. It’s bizarre to think that as a result, those who object should stop objecting
Did they? They went down and the club nearly went under.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:29 pmGame wasn't abandoned & O's fans made a mark. watch riots & relegation to see thatBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:23 pmThe game wasn’t finished with fans in the ground. So, Orient fans failed to make any mark.
You must have missed the post where I said if this was a player who tweeted something stupid 10 years ago as a kid, should be given a second chance.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:33 pmWhite racist south africa jailed him, non racist south africa made him the president, opinions changed. unlikely you have that capabilityBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:24 pmI don’t have any view on Mandela as a person. I am against apartheid, sounds like you’re all for it, going by your posts.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:22 pm
Only having one view is far more ridiculous, but you keep going with it while Jack Simpson gets on with his Orient career
Those who object have objected. Time to move on. It’s boring now.CEB wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:50 pm Long and short of it is the club can sign a guy who has done this if they believe it’s worth the damage to relations with the fans that take exception. The fans who take exception are under no obligation to get onboard if they feel that the club’s stance is wrong.
The people who made these decisions will have done so in the knowledge some people would object. It’s bizarre to think that as a result, those who object should stop objecting
It was said somewhere probably a podcast that one of the reasons Kent got onboard with the project was seeing the passion of the fans at that protest so yes it did make a mark and started the recovery from the days ofBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 8:19 pmDid they? They went down and the club nearly went under.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:29 pmGame wasn't abandoned & O's fans made a mark. watch riots & relegation to see thatBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:23 pm
The game wasn’t finished with fans in the ground. So, Orient fans failed to make any mark.
Racism is a form of persecution. Everybody has the right to make their feelings regards Jack known, I have no issue with that. But to continually keep slating a player now trying to get on with his life, and not letting it go, I view that as a form of persecution too.Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:22 pmNor should they have to if they feel that strongly about it.Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 3:19 pm Jack Simpson made an awful racist remark for which we was rightfully punished. Some think he should never play again, some think he deserves a second chance, but not with us. Others think that having apologised and made efforts with the local community, now is the time to look forwards rather than backwards. I think that summarises it, although I am sure that won't end it, as some just won't let it go.
Of course. Nothing to do with getting the club on the cheap, building them up to eventually make a profit on when he sells up.gshaw wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 8:31 pmIt was said somewhere probably a podcast that one of the reasons Kent got onboard with the project was seeing the passion of the fans at that protest so yes it did make a mark and started the recovery from the days ofBiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 8:19 pmDid they? They went down and the club nearly went under.Rubex Kube wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 7:29 pm
Game wasn't abandoned & O's fans made a mark. watch riots & relegation to see that