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Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:13 pm You said the dossier was fake.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:22 pm A couple of polls have put Kennedy as a third party candidate at between 13-17%. This is a man who has said he thinks COVID vaccinations were created to favour Ashkenazi Jews. They - and by extension we and the rest of the world - are f*cked.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:42 pm

I’ve obviously spent more time on YouTube than you .

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:28 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:57 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:43 am

This is a case of a single state unilaterally disqualifying a candidate for a national election. It compromises the veracity of the federal system. And, as ever, once it happens against a candidate you don't like it can then be weaponised against anyone.

It's possible that, regardless of who wins the next election, up to 30% of the population may not accept the outcome of that election. Not just be dissatisfied with it, but actively refuse to accept it and possibly even deploy low-level civil disobedience. That is a crisis of legitimacy that could undermine key institutions. And this ruling does nothing to reduce that legitimacy risk.

30% of the population could deploy low-level civil disobedience? Seriously?

"up to 30%"

So, if there was to be civil disobedience, that would probably be worst case scenario. Reality is likely to be a lot less.

Story of O wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:01 am Trump could murder a bus full of nuns and the idiots in the MAGA cult would still vote for him. In their eyes he can do no wrong and everything he says is true. Any bad news about him is fake news. It’s funny to watch them talk at rallies but also frightening

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:57 am

Story of O wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:01 am Trump could murder a bus full of nuns and the idiots in the MAGA cult would still vote for him. In their eyes he can do no wrong and everything he says is true. Any bad news about him is fake news. It’s funny to watch them talk at rallies but also frightening

You can thank the Democrats for that. Making everything so clearly politically motivated now people think everything is a hatchet job .

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:57 am

Story of O wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:01 am Trump could murder a bus full of nuns and the idiots in the MAGA cult would still vote for him. In their eyes he can do no wrong and everything he says is true. Any bad news about him is fake news. It’s funny to watch them talk at rallies but also frightening

You can thank the Democrats for that. Making everything so clearly politically motivated now people think everything is a hatchet job .

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:47 am Biden looks done.

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:13 am can't see him standing for election in November after this latest round of gaffes.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:28 am

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:13 am can't see him standing for election in November after this latest round of gaffes.

Making gaffes doesn't seem to be a precursor to not standing for election.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:24 am I don't follow American politics that closely when Democrats are in charge because things seem to settle down a bit (at least domestically) in those periods. But watching the BBC documentaries on the war in Ukraine, I was taken aback a bit by just how old he looks and acts. It is like watching your granddad - constant reminders of the charm and intellect they have, but hard to ignore how doddery and fragile they are.

So the yanks choice is either someone approaching senility with a competent team of technocrats behind him, or Trump and the insanity that comes with that. V grim.