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Did Coulthirst sign a new deal at Barnet, because his contract ran out this summer and last I heard the club were still waiting for him to sign it.

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:40 pm Did Coulthirst sign a new deal at Barnet, because his contract ran out this summer and last I heard the club were still waiting for him to sign it.

This from the official Barnet site 3 days ago

Shaquile Coulthirst

“The spasm in his lower back is starting to ease, however, Saturday’s game against Peterborough may come too early.

“He’s fine to return to training and could potentially be ready for the Arsenal match.”

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:18 pm

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:40 pm Did Coulthirst sign a new deal at Barnet, because his contract ran out this summer and last I heard the club were still waiting for him to sign it.

This from the official Barnet site 3 days ago

Shaquile Coulthirst

“The spasm in his lower back is starting to ease, however, Saturday’s game against Peterborough may come too early.

“He’s fine to return to training and could potentially be ready for the Arsenal match.”

He has been sponsored for the coming season as well

That means nothing. Look how quickly both Bonne and Koroma left us. They say one thing one minute and gone the next.

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:33 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:26 pm [quote="Smendrick Feaselberg" post_id=30014 time=<a href="tel:1563657614">1563657614</a> user_id=280]
[quote=gshaw post_id=30012 time=<a href="tel:1563657263">1563657263</a> user_id=227]
I wonder how the "we don't need any players" brigade will react now Ross has said this...

Is anybody really saying we don't need any more players though?

In a word, yes.
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Not seen anyone say we don't need new players where's the link.
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There isn't one, it's because certain people & Gshaw is one of them go into mad panic mode because we haven't got a squad of 35 by mid-July
& all is doom & gloom because we haven't replaced Charlie Grainger or Alex Lawless.............yet

Why not though? The idea is to replace players BEFORE the season starts.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:28 am Why not though? The idea is to replace players BEFORE the season starts.

No it's not. It's to replace them for the season. I'd take a 7/10 player on September 1st over a 5/10 player on July 28th every time.

Anyway, both those players have been replaced.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:29 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:28 am Why not though? The idea is to replace players BEFORE the season starts.

No it's not. It's to replace them for the season. I'd take a 7/10 player on September 1st over a 5/10 player on July 28th every time.

Anyway, both those players have been replaced.

Wright is a completely different player to Lawless.

Also, who has replaced Lee? We also know that Jobi will be used sparingly this season, so we are very short in midfield.

I agree Wright is a completely different player to Lawless - he’s much better! Lees replacement = Gorman ? Also fair to say that while we can assume McAnuff will be used sparingly this season we don’t know it! Try to be patient - players can’t be press ganged into coming to the club and whilst not ideal we have until 2nd September before the transfer window shuts. KT confirmed that there will be a couple of new arrivals in the coming days so hang on for that and then you can start criticising the players that have been brought in!

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:07 am I agree Wright is a completely different player to Lawless - he’s much better! Lees replacement = Gorman ? Also fair to say that while we can assume McAnuff will be used sparingly this season we don’t know it! Try to be patient - players can’t be press ganged into coming to the club and whilst not ideal we have until 2nd September before the transfer window shuts. KT confirmed that there will be a couple of new arrivals in the coming days so hang on for that and then you can start criticising the players that have been brought in!

Firstly, comparing apples to oranges is a flawed process. Also, Gorman was acquired last year whilst Lee was on the books, so he is clearly not a ‘replacement’.

I look forward to hearing who these new arrivals are, as my source tells me they will be in by next Saturday.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:52 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:29 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:28 am Why not though? The idea is to replace players BEFORE the season starts.

No it's not. It's to replace them for the season. I'd take a 7/10 player on September 1st over a 5/10 player on July 28th every time.

Anyway, both those players have been replaced.

Wright is a completely different player to Lawless.

Also, who has replaced Lee? We also know that Jobi will be used sparingly this season, so we are very short in midfield.

Jobi McAnuff will be the 4th central midfielder.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:16 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:52 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:29 am

No it's not. It's to replace them for the season. I'd take a 7/10 player on September 1st over a 5/10 player on July 28th every time.

Anyway, both those players have been replaced.

Wright is a completely different player to Lawless.

Also, who has replaced Lee? We also know that Jobi will be used sparingly this season, so we are very short in midfield.

Jobi McAnuff will be the 4th central midfielder.

That is about right but with injuries and loss of (or in Gorman’s case - neglible) form means we need someone else.

Jobi will be lucky to play 20 games this season.

O my gawd wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:58 am

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:33 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:26 pm [quote="Smendrick Feaselberg" post_id=30014 time=<a href="tel:1563657614">1563657614</a> user_id=280]
[quote=gshaw post_id=30012 time=<a href="tel:1563657263">1563657263</a> user_id=227]
I wonder how the "we don't need any players" brigade will react now Ross has said this...

Is anybody really saying we don't need any more players though?

In a word, yes.

Not seen anyone say we don't need new players where's the link.
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There isn't one, it's because certain people & Gshaw is one of them go into mad panic mode because we haven't got a squad of 35 by mid-July
& all is doom & gloom because we haven't replaced Charlie Grainger or Alex Lawless.............yet
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Sounds like you only read this message board, expand your horizons and you'll see the other opinions (wrong as they are)

Quite funny how Ross came out and said exactly the same reason of why we need the two players and suddenly all the dissenting voices go very quiet very quickly huh.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:12 am

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:07 am I agree Wright is a completely different player to Lawless - he’s much better! Lees replacement = Gorman ? Also fair to say that while we can assume McAnuff will be used sparingly this season we don’t know it! Try to be patient - players can’t be press ganged into coming to the club and whilst not ideal we have until 2nd September before the transfer window shuts. KT confirmed that there will be a couple of new arrivals in the coming days so hang on for that and then you can start criticising the players that have been brought in!

Firstly, comparing apples to oranges is a flawed process. Also, Gorman was acquired last year whilst Lee was on the books, so he is clearly not a ‘replacement’.

I look forward to hearing who these new arrivals are, as my source tells me they will be in by next Saturday.

Is this source the same one you put on your non existent burger

DISillusioned

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:29 am

O my gawd wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:58 am

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:33 pm

Is anybody really saying we don't need any more players though?

In a word, yes.

Not seen anyone say we don't need new players where's the link.

There isn't one, it's because certain people & Gshaw is one of them go into mad panic mode because we haven't got a squad of 35 by mid-July
& all is doom & gloom because we haven't replaced Charlie Grainger or Alex Lawless.............yet
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Sounds like you only read this message board, expand your horizons and you'll see the other opinions (wrong as they are)

Quite funny how Ross came out and said exactly the same reason of why we need the two players and suddenly all the dissenting voices go very quiet very quickly huh.
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Yes he did come out & say that, he knew all along what's needed & where, he has to find the right men for job. There was never any need for the meltdown or lack of ambition threads.
Poor form all round when you consider the progress that's been made under the new owners

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:22 am

Red_Army wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:16 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:52 am

Wright is a completely different player to Lawless.
Also, who has replaced Lee? We also know that Jobi will be used sparingly this season, so we are very short in midfield.

Jobi McAnuff will be the 4th central midfielder.

That is about right but with injuries and loss of (or in Gorman’s case - neglible) form means we need someone else. Jobi will be lucky to play 20 games this season.

@Disoriented
A good and reasoned summing up of the current situation.
After watching yesterdays game, the 5-3-2 formation struggled to make an impact on the wings, getting in good crosses etc. Widdowson is a happier playing a defensive role and struggles when doing the overlapping role and trying to get in good quality crosses from traditional winger areas. Ling is what he is, Judd when fitter and in form adds a lot more to the role of a right sided wing-back. Top quality sides like Liverpool have two very attacking wing-backs so can play this system well. We at present have two full backs who are not that comfortable on the ball when asked to go forward and overlap and put in good quality crosses, its horses for courses really. Play this system as we are and it will put a lot of extra work on the two central midfielders and result in a lack of decent service for the front two central strikers thus not many chances to score goals. Seems like JMD will play a roving role playing behind the front two.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:12 am

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:07 am I agree Wright is a completely different player to Lawless - he’s much better! Lees replacement = Gorman ? Also fair to say that while we can assume McAnuff will be used sparingly this season we don’t know it! Try to be patient - players can’t be press ganged into coming to the club and whilst not ideal we have until 2nd September before the transfer window shuts. KT confirmed that there will be a couple of new arrivals in the coming days so hang on for that and then you can start criticising the players that have been brought in!

Firstly, comparing apples to oranges is a flawed process. Also, Gorman was acquired last year whilst Lee was on the books, so he is clearly not a ‘replacement’.

I look forward to hearing who these new arrivals are, as my source tells me they will be in by next Saturday.

“ comparing apples to oranges” . Shame your “ source” cannot reveal who the new arrivals are, it would give you a head start in the moaning stakes

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:49 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:12 am

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:07 am I agree Wright is a completely different player to Lawless - he’s much better! Lees replacement = Gorman ? Also fair to say that while we can assume McAnuff will be used sparingly this season we don’t know it! Try to be patient - players can’t be press ganged into coming to the club and whilst not ideal we have until 2nd September before the transfer window shuts. KT confirmed that there will be a couple of new arrivals in the coming days so hang on for that and then you can start criticising the players that have been brought in!

Firstly, comparing apples to oranges is a flawed process. Also, Gorman was acquired last year whilst Lee was on the books, so he is clearly not a ‘replacement’.

I look forward to hearing who these new arrivals are, as my source tells me they will be in by next Saturday.

“ comparing apples to oranges” . Shame your “ source” cannot reveal who the new arrivals are, it would give you a head start in the moaning stakes

Your sarcasm is ill-founded. If I knew who was coming, why would I tell you anyway fella. You would only criticise the news anyway.

Stay positive fella - I am.

I’m sure I’ll be able to stay positive equally as long as you old friend!

redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:19 pm I’m sure I’ll be able to stay positive equally as long as you old friend!

A sudden breakout of positivity and harmony - great to see.

And long may it continue

To be honest, although I’m just as frustrated as anyone we haven’t added to the squad on top of what we’ve got, I think Ross’s comments are actually spot on. Getting players in the door to make up the numbers is completely the pointless. Anybody we get in has to be of a really sufficient quality to improve the squad so we’ve got to bide our time

Jman wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:21 pm To be honest, although I’m just as frustrated as anyone we haven’t added to the squad on top of what we’ve got, I think Ross’s comments are actually spot on. Getting players in the door to make up the numbers is completely the pointless. Anybody we get in has to be of a really sufficient quality to improve the squad so we’ve got to bide our time

Based on that view when they do come in we should be overjoyed at the quality they add to the squad. Nobody has ever said we need players to make up,the numbers, not that I recall anyway. That type of comment is a cop out for no activity.

Good comeback, actually.

O my gawd wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:39 am

gshaw wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:29 am

O my gawd wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:58 am

In a word, yes.

Not seen anyone say we don't need new players where's the link.

There isn't one, it's because certain people & Gshaw is one of them go into mad panic mode because we haven't got a squad of 35 by mid-July
& all is doom & gloom because we haven't replaced Charlie Grainger or Alex Lawless.............yet

Sounds like you only read this message board, expand your horizons and you'll see the other opinions (wrong as they are)

Quite funny how Ross came out and said exactly the same reason of why we need the two players and suddenly all the dissenting voices go very quiet very quickly huh.
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Yes he did come out & say that, he knew all along what's needed & where, he has to find the right men for job. There was never any need for the meltdown or lack of ambition threads.
Poor form all round when you consider the progress that's been made under the new owners
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My sole concern is that we never return to the tinpot crap of NL ever again.

Current name on the social media rumour mill is David Wheeler of QPR.