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Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:46 pm
by banqo
Good!!
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:21 pm
by BoniO
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:35 pm
Blimey.
Obscene sentence for causing a delay on a motorway. Some rapists have received similar sentences. I hope they appeal.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:24 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:21 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:35 pm
Blimey.
Obscene sentence for causing a delay on a motorway. Some rapists have received similar sentences. I hope they appeal.
In your expert legal opinion what do you think would be an appropriate sentence?
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:26 pm
by Max B Gold
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:27 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Genius demands punishment before legal investigations are complete.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:31 pm
by BoniO
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:24 pm
BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:21 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:35 pm
Blimey.
Obscene sentence for causing a delay on a motorway. Some rapists have received similar sentences. I hope they appeal.
In your expert legal opinion what do you think would be an appropriate sentence?
Oh I'm so sorry! I didn't realise I had to be a legal expert to find that sentence ridiculous.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:36 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:31 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:24 pm
BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:21 pm
Obscene sentence for causing a delay on a motorway. Some rapists have received similar sentences. I hope they appeal.
In your expert legal opinion what do you think would be an appropriate sentence?
Oh I'm so sorry! I didn't realise I had to be a legal expert to find that sentence ridiculous.
You don’t, I just thought you must have legal training based on your post
What do you think would be an appropriate sentence and why?
You clearly feel strongly this a miscarriage of justice that requires an appeal.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:40 pm
by BoniO
Not biting C&C. It's a ridiculous sentence but I can't be arsed to waste time discussing with you. No offence.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:42 pm
by Proposition Joe
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:27 pm
Genius demands punishment before legal investigations are complete.
Yeah, they're some pretty dumb - and unhelpful - comparisons.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:59 pm
by Chelmsford Swimmer
They wasted more hours of other peoples lives than they have of their own.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:01 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
At least prisons aren’t full
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:06 pm
by Proposition Joe
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:59 pm
They wasted more hours of other peoples lives than they have of their own.
What does this even mean?
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:15 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:40 pm
Not biting C&C. It's a ridiculous sentence but I can't be arsed to waste time discussing with you. No offence.
None taken
In that case I’ll take the judgement of a crown court judge on legal matters over angry old man on internet
No offence
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:22 pm
by Max B Gold
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:15 pm
BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:40 pm
Not biting C&C. It's a ridiculous sentence but I can't be arsed to waste time discussing with you. No offence.
None taken
In that case I’ll take the judgement of a crown court judge on legal matters over angry old man on internet
No offence
Even a judge who did not give a police officer who raped a woman when she was drunk a prison sentence. Describing his actions as "a moment of madness" ?
His judgement seems sound and will be overturned on appeal.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:45 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:22 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:15 pm
BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:40 pm
Not biting C&C. It's a ridiculous sentence but I can't be arsed to waste time discussing with you. No offence.
None taken
In that case I’ll take the judgement of a crown court judge on legal matters over angry old man on internet
No offence
Even a judge who did not give a police officer who raped a woman when she was drunk a prison sentence. Describing his actions as "a moment of madness" ?
His judgement seems sound and will be overturned on appeal.
On what legal basis?
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:58 pm
by Chelmsford Swimmer
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:06 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:59 pm
They wasted more hours of other peoples lives than they have of their own.
What does this even mean?
Over 51,000 hours of driver delays does that help ?
People missed flights, medical appointments, and exams.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:01 pm
by Beradogs
That sentence is ludicrous. We are more like a police state everyday and I don’t even support just stop oil.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:11 pm
by Dunners
If the rest of the JSO activists truly believe in their convictions, they'll double-down with even more disruptive protests. Afterall, the climate catastrophe matters more then doing a bit of time. I've even joined the local JSO WhatsApp group to suggest as much, and that I'll be behind them all the way if they do.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:20 pm
by BoniO
Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:11 pm
If the rest of the JSO activists truly believe in their convictions, they'll double-down with even more disruptive protests. Afterall, the climate catastrophe matters more then doing a bit of time. I've even joined the local JSO WhatsApp group to suggest as much, and that I'll be behind them all the way if they do.
I look forward to seeing you hanging off a motorway bridge in the near future.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:34 pm
by Proposition Joe
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:58 pm
Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:06 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:59 pm
They wasted more hours of other peoples lives than they have of their own.
What does this even mean?
Over 51,000 hours of driver delays does that help ?
People missed flights, medical appointments, and exams.
No they didn't.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:42 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
As a nation we should be horrified at the ebbing away of the right to protest. The “oh but they delayed traffic “ mob are truly short sighted
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:55 pm
by Proposition Joe
For all that people moan about the nanny state and supposed erosion of freedoms (Health and Safety gone mad! You can't say anything any more! The Muslims are banning Christmas!) they seem pretty keen on ushering in most of the things that you'd get under a Police state or outright dictatorship.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:00 pm
by Celtient
I think JSO are approaching this the wrong way. They reckon that at current consumption rates, oil will run out in about 30 years time. I think JSO should encourage people to use double the oil and it would all be gone in 15 years. Job done.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:45 pm
by Max B Gold
Unfortunately, suggestion that would only encourage more violence and war.
Re: Just Stop Oil
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:47 pm
by Max B Gold
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:45 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:22 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:15 pm
None taken
In that case I’ll take the judgement of a crown court judge on legal matters over angry old man on internet
No offence
Even a judge who did not give a police officer who raped a woman when she was drunk a prison sentence. Describing his actions as "a moment of madness" ?
His judgement seems sound and will be overturned on appeal.
On what legal basis?
Bias and misdirection by the judge together with abuse of process.