I agree as a "Student of History". Unfortunately, History usually repeats itself. When this eventually passes and it will, gross incompetence needs to be examined and those accountable need to be held to account.Redline wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:27 amFor sure. What you say is correct-in terms of national crisis. Though Chamberlain May disagree. Happy to let history judge the people in charge and that is exactly what we should be doing. What is happening now however is people judging him/them based on personal bias. I have absolutely no idea if what he/they are doing is fantastic or poo poo.RoryRocks wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:55 amEvery leader/President gets an initial boost when you have a national emergency/crisis. A "We are in this together moment". If your not up to the job or don't have a competent team around you, you'll eventually be found out. When people see friends and loved ones being caught up in this crises they will eventually get off the cult(cannot be 100% on that as Nazi style propaganda is working overboard). By a long shot, he is the most corrupt, clearly off the head president that ever walked. That "Conman Clown" will do anything and I mean "anything" to stay out of jail.Redline wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:33 am
Yet his popularity ratings stay stable. Odd that. In fact despite his mediocre ratings they have reached an all time high in the past couple of days.
Experts put this down to his handling of the Coronavirus situation which has a 60% approval rating. But what do,they know!
I’m happy for history to be the judge once this crisis is over. That is the time for the post mortem.
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They have but contract already signed and I'm moving to an unoccupied property so as things stand I'm ok.Thor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:20 amI read that home sales have been put on hold. A caller on the radio yesterday said, they can’t pull out, can’t move in and were now paying rent along with a mortgage and can’t get access to their new home.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:57 am I'm moving house in 2 weeks, gonna be a laugh ☹
Saying that, my neighbour hot footed it out last night so her sale went through.
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Balls, as usual. Now is exactly the time to make your voice heard and try and influence decisions. Your position is to just sit back and take whatever crap is thrown at you even if the cost is thousands of lives. Boris has made one cock up after another and needs to be called out for it.Redline wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:27 amFor sure. What you say is correct-in terms of national crisis. Though Chamberlain May disagree. Happy to let history judge the people in charge and that is exactly what we should be doing. What is happening now however is people judging him/them based on personal bias. I have absolutely no idea if what he/they are doing is fantastic or poo poo.RoryRocks wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:55 amEvery leader/President gets an initial boost when you have a national emergency/crisis. A "We are in this together moment". If your not up to the job or don't have a competent team around you, you'll eventually be found out. When people see friends and loved ones being caught up in this crises they will eventually get off the cult(cannot be 100% on that as Nazi style propaganda is working overboard). By a long shot, he is the most corrupt, clearly off the head president that ever walked. That "Conman Clown" will do anything and I mean "anything" to stay out of jail.Redline wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:33 am
Yet his popularity ratings stay stable. Odd that. In fact despite his mediocre ratings they have reached an all time high in the past couple of days.
Experts put this down to his handling of the Coronavirus situation which has a 60% approval rating. But what do,they know!
I’m happy for history to be the judge once this crisis is over. That is the time for the post mortem.
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21 year old who "died of covid19" actually died of a heart attack, cororner put it down as covid19 because she had a cough.
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Oh what a surprise (NOT)Thor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:20 amI read that home sales have been put on hold. A caller on the radio yesterday said, they can’t pull out, can’t move in and were now paying rent along with a mortgage and can’t get access to their new home.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:57 am I'm moving house in 2 weeks, gonna be a laugh ☹
Saying that, my neighbour hot footed it out last night so her sale went through.
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I may well have missed this in the mass of data, charts and hypotheses flying around, but what happens when lockdown stops?
We can go out clearly, but at what risk? If the virus is still around as I'd expect, then what's to stop those of us who have avoided it so far from catching it and beginning the whole process of the virus spreading again.
We can go out clearly, but at what risk? If the virus is still around as I'd expect, then what's to stop those of us who have avoided it so far from catching it and beginning the whole process of the virus spreading again.
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Exactly. No-one has an exit strategy. That's not just us, it's everywhere else too.BoniO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:57 pm I may well have missed this in the mass of data, charts and hypotheses flying around, but what happens when lockdown stops?
We can go out clearly, but at what risk? If the virus is still around as I'd expect, then what's to stop those of us who have avoided it so far from catching it and beginning the whole process of the virus spreading again.
Even after lockdown there won't be a full return to normal life for a long time, I reckon. Forget the Open, British GP, cricket - maybe the start of the football season
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Yep, no exit strategy. I suspect most governments will implement a phased approach. But whatever we go back to wont be the same world we left behind.
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I don't think that's feasible. As Dunners says, it will be a phased return to some semblance of normality.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:08 pm Lockdown will be in force until there is a vaccine I'd imagine
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That could be months and months away and I don't think we'll be in lockdown that long.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:08 pm Lockdown will be in force until there is a vaccine I'd imagine
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One small consolation is, Italy's death toll was over 40% higher at this point two weeks ago
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Dom's plan.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:21 pm Thought the plan is for us all to get it, just not all at the same time.
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Problem is that "only" about 17,000 people have caught it so far. When we all come out of lockdown there's an awful lot of us (over 60 million - 17,000) who could potentially catch it for the first time, unless of course I'm missing something big here and I hope I am.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:21 pm Thought the plan is for us all to get it, just not all at the same time.
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I wouldn't worry by October the homicide rate will have outstripped the Corona threat.BoniO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:59 pmProblem is that "only" about 17,000 people have caught it so far. When we all come out of lockdown there's an awful lot of us (over 60 million - 17,000) who could potentially catch it for the first time, unless of course I'm missing something big here and I hope I am.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:21 pm Thought the plan is for us all to get it, just not all at the same time.
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Yep your definitely missing something hereBoniO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:59 pmProblem is that "only" about 17,000 people have caught it so far. When we all come out of lockdown there's an awful lot of us (over 60 million - 17,000) who could potentially catch it for the first time, unless of course I'm missing something big here and I hope I am.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:21 pm Thought the plan is for us all to get it, just not all at the same time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52056111
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Not only that, but we'll have lost the services of a chunk of the health service personnel because they've been working without the PPE and some will be getting large loads of virus. On the plus side, we may have more ventilators by then (assuming the Govt don't balls that up - which may be quite an assumption)BoniO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:59 pmProblem is that "only" about 17,000 people have caught it so far. When we all come out of lockdown there's an awful lot of us (over 60 million - 17,000) who could potentially catch it for the first time, unless of course I'm missing something big here and I hope I am.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:21 pm Thought the plan is for us all to get it, just not all at the same time.
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Sorry, read that and none clearer. My numbers above are not meant to be accurate by the way, just making a vague point. Can you highlight what I'm missing - ta.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:28 pmYep your definitely missing something hereBoniO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:59 pmProblem is that "only" about 17,000 people have caught it so far. When we all come out of lockdown there's an awful lot of us (over 60 million - 17,000) who could potentially catch it for the first time, unless of course I'm missing something big here and I hope I am.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:21 pm Thought the plan is for us all to get it, just not all at the same time.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52056111
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I think from the graphs everything at the moment is multiplied every 2.5- 3 daysBoniO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:44 pmSorry, read that and none clearer. My numbers above are not meant to be accurate by the way, just making a vague point. Can you highlight what I'm missing - ta.Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:28 pmYep your definitely missing something hereBoniO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:59 pm
Problem is that "only" about 17,000 people have caught it so far. When we all come out of lockdown there's an awful lot of us (over 60 million - 17,000) who could potentially catch it for the first time, unless of course I'm missing something big here and I hope I am.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52056111
Though I’m no mathematical genius either
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