Anybody else scared

[Top of the JES]

I know I can't just bottle going into work if the job I do helps the NHS Staff ,Police and other more important key workers.

I was trying to acknowledge the fact I'm not invincible but the previous post may class me as a coward when I can actually assist more important people whilst doing my job.

Don't think like that, doing what you do makes you an unsung hero so Thank you for whatever it is you do helping our key workers keep going, just be as safe as you can be.

[EliotNes]

Very apprehensive would best describe my feelings

[Howling Mad Murdock]

Thank you.Tuffs and all!

[Disoriented]

I'm more scared of my Mum getting infected, TBH. She has COPD and is in the at-risk age group.

As for me, I've just received a text from NHS Coronavirus Service. Due to medication I'm taking, which supresses my immune system, I'm on the at-risk list of severe illness too (despite my incredibly young age). I've been told to stay in for the next 12 weeks.

This is going to be tough.

Good luck fella.

[Lucky7]

I'm self isolating but the wife is having to pop out to get essentials and pay the bills , she's obviously being careful whilst she's out and washing her hands as soon as she gets in , i can't believe a pal of mine invited me and 4 others round his flat tomorrow for beers and a game of cards , he must be fooking mad ☹

Ron your in a risk group you and anybody else on this board that is high risk should be able to get help getting your shopping delivered etc
Register with this link fella

https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus-extremely-vulnerable

As for bills pay them online if there utilities

Stay at home both of ya that goes for big Kev as well

[Mick McQuaid]

I'm not particularly scared for myself, I'm young enough and although not exactly a model of fitness I don't have any serious health conditions, so statistically speaking I'm unlikely to die or get seriously ill.

Worried about my parents and perhaps not scared but set for a brutal few weeks at work, providing care for people with learning disabilities. One of the big differences between London and most of the rest of Europe is the cost of housing meaning the number of people in shared and over crowded houses is huge. What we have just done is send all the people who've been merrily picking it up over the last few weeks but aren't showing symptoms into the ideal environment to spread it to everyone they live with. The spike in cases over the next few weeks is going to be huge.

We are already working with some people with suspected infections, we finally have some face masks and goggles but they are in such short supply at the moment the current advice is we can only use them when working directly with people showing symptoms, not with all the people who have been sharing the same space and will almost certainly have it. However as there is zero testing every case is just suspected.

Staff absence is growing daily due to the advice to be off for 14 days in most cases with any symptoms. We have a few people who've already decided they are going to look after themselves, and I don't really blame them, but we have many more staff, including those at much higher risk and getting much less pay than me that are committed to seeing it through no matter how hard it gets.

We aren't even close to having to activate the contingency plans for prioritising only the most critical care but I have no doubt it will come to that, along with whatever staff still standing working round the clock. One of the supplies we haven't struggled to get hold of is a bulk lot of blow up mattresses to stick in office spaces if it gets that bad.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm fully expecting that some people, I care about, both people we're working for and colleagues will die. Without getting too political, I and everyone I've spoken to is doing this in spite of the complete lack of faith in the way this has been handled rather than any trust that the government is able or even willing to give us what we need to keep us safe.

[Lucky7]

I'm not particularly scared for myself, I'm young enough and although not exactly a model of fitness I don't have any serious health conditions, so statistically speaking I'm unlikely to die or get seriously ill.

Worried about my parents and perhaps not scared but set for a brutal few weeks at work, providing care for people with learning disabilities. One of the big differences between London and most of the rest of Europe is the cost of housing meaning the number of people in shared and over crowded houses is huge. What we have just done is send all the people who've been merrily picking it up over the last few weeks but aren't showing symptoms into the ideal environment to spread it to everyone they live with. The spike in cases over the next few weeks is going to be huge.

We are already working with some people with suspected infections, we finally have some face masks and goggles but they are in such short supply at the moment the current advice is we can only use them when working directly with people showing symptoms, not with all the people who have been sharing the same space and will almost certainly have it. However as there is zero testing every case is just suspected.

Staff absence is growing daily due to the advice to be off for 14 days in most cases with any symptoms. We have a few people who've already decided they are going to look after themselves, and I don't really blame them, but we have many more staff, including those at much higher risk and getting much less pay than me that are committed to seeing it through no matter how hard it gets.

We aren't even close to having to activate the contingency plans for prioritising only the most critical care but I have no doubt it will come to that, along with whatever staff still standing working round the clock. One of the supplies we haven't struggled to get hold of is a bulk lot of blow up mattresses to stick in office spaces if it gets that bad.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm fully expecting that some people, I care about, both people we're working for and colleagues will die. Without getting too political, I and everyone I've spoken to is doing this in spite of the complete lack of faith in the way this has been handled rather than any trust that the government is able or even willing to give us what we need to keep us safe.

Good luck and Thank You to you and anybody else working in a care environment Mick

[tuffers#1]

I'm not particularly scared for myself, I'm young enough and although not exactly a model of fitness I don't have any serious health conditions, so statistically speaking I'm unlikely to die or get seriously ill.

Worried about my parents and perhaps not scared but set for a brutal few weeks at work, providing care for people with learning disabilities. One of the big differences between London and most of the rest of Europe is the cost of housing meaning the number of people in shared and over crowded houses is huge. What we have just done is send all the people who've been merrily picking it up over the last few weeks but aren't showing symptoms into the ideal environment to spread it to everyone they live with. The spike in cases over the next few weeks is going to be huge.

We are already working with some people with suspected infections, we finally have some face masks and goggles but they are in such short supply at the moment the current advice is we can only use them when working directly with people showing symptoms, not with all the people who have been sharing the same space and will almost certainly have it. However as there is zero testing every case is just suspected.

Staff absence is growing daily due to the advice to be off for 14 days in most cases with any symptoms. We have a few people who've already decided they are going to look after themselves, and I don't really blame them, but we have many more staff, including those at much higher risk and getting much less pay than me that are committed to seeing it through no matter how hard it gets.

We aren't even close to having to activate the contingency plans for prioritising only the most critical care but I have no doubt it will come to that, along with whatever staff still standing working round the clock. One of the supplies we haven't struggled to get hold of is a bulk lot of blow up mattresses to stick in office spaces if it gets that bad.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm fully expecting that some people, I care about, both people we're working for and colleagues will die. Without getting too political, I and everyone I've spoken to is doing this in spite of the complete lack of faith in the way this has been handled rather than any trust that the government is able or even willing to give us what we need to keep us safe.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/c ... 4YDmJWNiTU


12 year old girl with No underlying health issues fighting for her life.
I think all of us should expect a real possibility that we could get it as well as any of our loved ones.

Those who believe they are invincible usually
Get hit hard .
Age gender & health issues or not.

Everyone is at RISK .

Be well, be healthy, be lucky

[o-no]

Agree with your points. Everyone needs to be concerned about this.

But - this particular case is an outlier statistically, which the Mirror article (unsurprisingly) doesn't point out. I'm not sure this type of sensationalism is helpful to be honest.

[tuffers#1]

Agree with your points. Everyone needs to be concerned about this.

But - this particular case is an outlier statistically, which the Mirror article (unsurprisingly) doesn't point out. I'm not sure this type of sensationalism is helpful to be honest.

Think its been done more to wake people upto the fact that kids playing together could risk each other as well as the old.

I think every little bit that forces un- necessary stress on the health service etc should be taken.

As long as we get through it all , we can argue
the merits afterwards.

[JimbO]

I'm in my 40's not so scared for me but for my parents and in laws who are in there 70's. I got quite angry when I saw those morons on the parks and beaches at the weekend. Me and the family have been going out once a day for 45 minutes for a walk and that's it. Also going to the shops to top up for the basics about once every three days or so.

[Adz]

I'm a numbers person, and the numbers don't scare me, 780000000 people in the world, 20000 deaths. This virus has been live since November, probably before that due to the lagging data. 400000 cases identified. With the global shortage of testing kits and facilities and that 80% of people are seemingly symptomless I reckon the number of people who have it, or have had it is way higher, and the mortality rate isn't anywhere near as bad as feared. Some smart bod needs to create a test to see if you have the antibodies and we'll then have a much better idea of how dangerous it is. That's the thing about a curve, it's only as good as the data in it, and our data sampling for this is rubbish.

[tuffers#1]

Numbers or not ,
Im still scared sh*tless that I or anyone of my family could potentially become infected & die.

Thats enough to keep the mind ticking with anxiety .

Doesnt matter how you dress it up or down
Mortality & a path directly to it , is never easy.

im asking for a bit of luck here for mine &
everyone elses

[Real Al]

I don't think anybody's said the mortality rate is particularly high (ebola is 50%), but it is believed to be a lot higher than seasonal flu. Neither is it super contagious. However, in a society with no immunity, it's contagious enough and dangerous enough for a whole heap of people to get extremely ill in a short enough time to overwhelm each country's health service.

We owe it to everyone else to be sensible, so that their dear old mum doesn't die in a neglected corner of a hospital, because the health workers had to prioritise who got the correct care and access to a ventilator.

Also many of these health workers are catching the disease, so we certainly owe it to the people putting their lives on the line for us.

[Adz]

Looks like we'll have a much better idea of the veracity of the data in the near future.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/gam ... 54dyy.html

[Dohnut]

Looks like we'll have a much better idea of the veracity of the data in the near future.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/gam ... 54dyy.html

The terms “silly sausage test” and “Boris Johnson” in the same article. Love it. Did he pass.

But this does seem a massive step forward. Game changer indeed. I definitely want one, but key workers first, then volunteers. Then working people. Target those who get the country moving sorted. Us oldies can stay at home for now.

[BoniO]

Looks like we'll have a much better idea of the veracity of the data in the near future.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/gam ... 54dyy.html

Even in this link there are serious contradictions as to whether you really are immune after recovering from the virus:-

"British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s key medical and scientific advisers have repeatedly stressed that someone who has been infected cannot be reinfected, despite some isolated reports of that happening in other countries."

"Whitty last week said the antibody tests were an "absolute priority".
"We'll be able to say to somebody, 'You've had this virus, you're not likely to get it again at least in the immediate term, and now we can be confident you can return to work and now we can be confident you don't need to be taking some of the precautions you’ve been taking to date'," he said."

Scientists are usually very factual. You have to wonder if the governments statement is based more on spin.

[Fisch]

This is a post on a local (to me in Croatia) facebook page.....

Just to compare with how things are being done where you are.....

In Varaždin, new neighbourhood borders have been established where each has at least one groceries shop and chemist within it. Roadblocks have been established to prevent us from moving from neighbourhood to neighbourhood without reason. To get the necessary permission, you need to convince the local civil defence people of your reason/s and they will give you a code number. You must present your photo ID at any roadblock and quote your permission number, they will check that you look like you are doing what your permission allows and, if so, let you through. The pic is of the checkpoint near me.

Only one person may enter a shop (or be in a vehicle) and you must have gloves and mask before they let you in and spray you with ... whatever. Everyone else must wait outside until their turn comes.

I don't know what the Croatian is for "no messin'".... but that would sum it up nicely. Public disobedience is not strong here so people are playing the game properly. Time will tell if it will prove effective.



It's a long read so won't suit the 'simple solutions' type. It seems to me to be the best researched and well-rounded look at C-19 so far. Don't look for simple answers......

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... pAT03kl73M

[DuvB]

I'm self isolating but the wife is having to pop out to get essentials and pay the bills , she's obviously being careful whilst she's out and washing her hands as soon as she gets in , i can't believe a pal of mine invited me and 4 others round his flat tomorrow for beers and a game of cards , he must be fooking mad ☹

My wife has been reading up a lot on this virus protection. She washes the food packaging she brings home in soap. Also the bags she uses and her gloves.

When coming home and washing hands, we now wash the tap/taps first then wash hands, then turn off the tap - seems sensible to us.

Hope this helps.

[BoniO]

I'm self isolating but the wife is having to pop out to get essentials and pay the bills , she's obviously being careful whilst she's out and washing her hands as soon as she gets in , i can't believe a pal of mine invited me and 4 others round his flat tomorrow for beers and a game of cards , he must be fooking mad ☹

My wife has been reading up a lot on this virus protection. She washes the food packaging she brings home in soap. Also the bags she uses and her gloves.

When coming home and washing hands, we now wash the tap/taps first then wash hands, then turn off the tap - seems sensible to us.

Hope this helps.

I can't see how any preventative measure is wasted effort mate. Best of luck.