Experience

[Rich Tea Wellin]

aaah trust Wumble to come up with another inaccurate assessment. A man so balanced he has a chip on both shoulders.
Apart from failed podcast host what other experience do you have?

probably the same as you.

I've never been a failed podcast host

I’d bet you’d never had Orient’s favoured podcast for half a season on your cv either.

For future ref, it’s one of the most enjoyable things I’ve done, which has got me on the radio, lead to career opportunities within audio and sparked a life long passion for podcasts and podcasting.

But you probably knew that as you “don’t like making anyone feel like sh*t” so I assume it wasn’t meant to be insulting.

[tuffers#1]

The constant "you've never been a manager so cannot comment". Its akin to watching thousands of hours of films and not being able to say you liked one, or you didnt. No ones saying they could do a better job, get a grip.

but at the same time, the same people often advance the "but he's a fan!" argument as one of the primary defences of him.

Well, so are we, so...

"If Embleton can manage Orient, so can I"

Not until youve done your UEFA badges you cant.

[O my gawd]

probably the same as you.

I've never been a failed podcast host

I’d bet you’d never had Orient’s favoured podcast for half a season on your cv either.

For future ref, it’s one of the most enjoyable things I’ve done, which has got me on the radio, lead to career opportunities within audio and sparked a life long passion for podcasts and podcasting.

But you probably knew that as you “don’t like making anyone feel like sh*t” so I assume it wasn’t meant to be insulting.

My experience is mainly playing. Had 2 seasons in the Conference as it was known then before work & family matters, meant I had to drop a couple of levels. So I understand the game & the people in it a bit more than most. Just think it's extremely flippant to be critical all of the time. I honestly believe with a clean slate The O's will challenge for play offs next year. This season was always going to be rough after last summers events. If you fail to understand that I pity you.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

I've never been a failed podcast host

I’d bet you’d never had Orient’s favoured podcast for half a season on your cv either.

For future ref, it’s one of the most enjoyable things I’ve done, which has got me on the radio, lead to career opportunities within audio and sparked a life long passion for podcasts and podcasting.

But you probably knew that as you “don’t like making anyone feel like sh*t” so I assume it wasn’t meant to be insulting.

My experience is mainly playing. Had 2 seasons in the Conference as it was known then before work & family matters, meant I had to drop a couple of levels. So I understand the game & the people in it a bit more than most. Just think it's extremely flippant to be critical all of the time. I honestly believe with a clean slate The O's will challenge for play offs next year. This season was always going to be rough after last summers events. If you fail to understand that I pity you.

How privileged I am to be pitied by someone with such an illustrious career as a player.

[O my gawd]

Is this where I go off in a flounce & claim you've hurt my feelings?

[Max B Gold]

Tuff the owner clearly referred to orient fans in a degrotary inference in an interview in podcast because fans have a different view to his

I mean just because he got enough money invested hoping for a return one day it does not mean he knows much about football particularly as he a foreign national brought up in another country

Is he not entitled to an Optimistic opinion ?
Is the only option to be a miserable pessimist?

Whats a Foreign National got to do with anything
Pele
Maradonna
Pocchetino
Klopp
Etc etc

All would be Foreign Nationals .

Yes they are foreign but tuff you missed the point

It's the lofc interviews made by the principle investor that in his own admission is not English and was raised in USA and initially had know idea on the English type of character - that is used as a reference on this matter

Not Radom football people of a different nationality

Over his time he "moaned " or " had an alternative" view about his exapectations not being met

He has " moaned" about the way we have draws as in USA there are no draws - there is a winner and loser

It's ok to have a different view.

Tell me it's really the party listening or reading that defines the difference between a view or a moan

It's all very subjective - best call them for any one opinion rather than a moan mate

No draws in America? According to them Vietnam was a draw.

[tuffers#1]

Tuff the owner clearly referred to orient fans in a degrotary inference in an interview in podcast because fans have a different view to his

I mean just because he got enough money invested hoping for a return one day it does not mean he knows much about football particularly as he a foreign national brought up in another country

Is he not entitled to an Optimistic opinion ?
Is the only option to be a miserable pessimist?

Whats a Foreign National got to do with anything
Pele
Maradonna
Pocchetino
Klopp
Etc etc

All would be Foreign Nationals .

Yes they are foreign but tuff you missed the point

It's the lofc interviews made by the principle investor that in his own admission is not English and was raised in USA and initially had know idea on the English type of character - that is used as a reference on this matter

Not Radom football people of a different nationality

Over his time he "moaned " or " had an alternative" view about his exapectations not being met

He has " moaned" about the way we have draws as in USA there are no draws - there is a winner and loser

It's ok to have a different view.

Tell me it's really the party listening or reading that defines the difference between a view or a moan

It's all very subjective - best call them for any one opinion rather than a moan mate

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... 13eOlduZGA


NYC FC drew 10 games as winners of the Eastern conference last season , in fact there were 102 draws out of all games played.
40 odd years ago mls had the no draw rule , not for years now

So what are you blathering on about ?

[tuffers#1]

1st point
Blathering is very different to babbling .

2nd point
The P.I has stated categorically that this season reaoly has become a free hit becuase of the
early summer tragedy to befall the Great Man.

Move along now .

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I've never been a failed podcast host

I’d bet you’d never had Orient’s favoured podcast for half a season on your cv either.

For future ref, it’s one of the most enjoyable things I’ve done, which has got me on the radio, lead to career opportunities within audio and sparked a life long passion for podcasts and podcasting.

But you probably knew that as you “don’t like making anyone feel like sh*t” so I assume it wasn’t meant to be insulting.

My experience is mainly playing. Had 2 seasons in the Conference as it was known then before work & family matters, meant I had to drop a couple of levels. So I understand the game & the people in it a bit more than most. Just think it's extremely flippant to be critical all of the time. I honestly believe with a clean slate The O's will challenge for play offs next year. This season was always going to be rough after last summers events. If you fail to understand that I pity you.

Which club and when?

[Millennial Snowflake]

Wumble has turned into such a massive willy since he started sucking up to the leftie gang. Shame, as he was alright before that

Glad to hear the podcast opened a few doors for you tho, congrats

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Edgy.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Leftie gang

[O my gawd]

I’d bet you’d never had Orient’s favoured podcast for half a season on your cv either.

For future ref, it’s one of the most enjoyable things I’ve done, which has got me on the radio, lead to career opportunities within audio and sparked a life long passion for podcasts and podcasting.

But you probably knew that as you “don’t like making anyone feel like sh*t” so I assume it wasn’t meant to be insulting.

My experience is mainly playing. Had 2 seasons in the Conference as it was known then before work & family matters, meant I had to drop a couple of levels. So I understand the game & the people in it a bit more than most. Just think it's extremely flippant to be critical all of the time. I honestly believe with a clean slate The O's will challenge for play offs next year. This season was always going to be rough after last summers events. If you fail to understand that I pity you.

Which club and when?

Welling 92-94

[Thor]

Did you play with Steve Finnan then?

[O my gawd]

Did you play with Steve Finnan then?

Yes it wouldn't have been many games as he would have only been about 17.
Good Times, remember playing with ex-Arsenal & QPR keeper Paul Barron & non league legends like Gary Abbott & Terry Robbins.

[Thor]

Did you think back then that he would go and and do what he did in his career?

[O my gawd]

No, when I left he was still there I had too much going on being a Dad & working to keep in touch with them. I remember him having potential but not to those heights.

[tuffers#1]

1st point
Blathering is very different to babbling .

2nd point
The P.I has stated categorically that this season reaoly has become a free hit becuase of the
early summer tragedy to befall the Great Man.

Move along now .

Really is very different to "reaoly"

Move along now tuff- think we now have concluded fletcher has a higher grade football career and cv than Ross "the boss" and if he had been given any encouragement from Ling that resembles what Ross got, fletcher would not know be back employed at a premier club but still with us in league two

I wondering tuff had you ever considered that fletcher technical ability as a coach contained methods of instructions and playing that Ling and Ross just could not grasp as Ross not being an ex player and Ling football career was really playing generally at a lower level and hence they took the easy way out and pulled the plug

You obviously dont see the Genius in lings plan

Get a PL loan manager in & show Ross how sh*t he is & itll make Ross see that he can do a great Job as he is better than him.
Obviously Edfue Howe rated him so highly as a coach he put him in charge of loans

Youll see im Right soon enough.

As my Old man used to say & what i live by

Not often im wrong ,
But im Right again.

[tuffers#1]

They are knocking down walls to get Carl Fletcher away from His super duper important loan manager role arent they.

If you want the last word just say


"Last "

I won't write a reply.

[LittleMate]

It's not 'moaning', it's highlighting the lack of experience in the group as a collective. I'm sure they're all grateful of the chance but it's not fair on them.

There's nothing positive about it either. The owners are satisfied with it, the holders of the position are happy with it - so for you to highlight it then you must not be happy with it. Since you are experienced when it comes to voicing your opinion, what or who is the solution?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Someone with experience, perhaps?

[DuvB]

1st point
Blathering is very different to babbling .

2nd point
The P.I has stated categorically that this season reaoly has become a free hit becuase of the
early summer tragedy to befall the Great Man.

Move along now .

Really is very different to "reaoly"

Move along now tuff- think we now have concluded fletcher has a higher grade football career and cv than Ross "the boss" and if he had been given any encouragement from Ling that resembles what Ross got, fletcher would not know be back employed at a premier club but still with us in league two

I wondering tuff had you ever considered that fletcher technical ability as a coach contained methods of instructions and playing that Ling and Ross just could not grasp as Ross not being an ex player and Ling football career was really playing generally at a lower level and hence they took the easy way out and pulled the plug

Fletcher patently had playing ability to a very high level but to come in and within his first 29 days, produce a list of 10 people (players + coaches?) that he wanted to get rid off showed that he really had no idea of the realities and practicalities of running a professional football club. The man was stupid but so were the club in appointing him in the first place.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I can think of at least 10 as well. What’s the issue with that?

[tuffers#1]

I can think of at least 10 as well. What’s the issue with that?

And what position of relevance do you hold at the club ?

[Disoriented]

Really is very different to "reaoly"

Move along now tuff- think we now have concluded fletcher has a higher grade football career and cv than Ross "the boss" and if he had been given any encouragement from Ling that resembles what Ross got, fletcher would not know be back employed at a premier club but still with us in league two

I wondering tuff had you ever considered that fletcher technical ability as a coach contained methods of instructions and playing that Ling and Ross just could not grasp as Ross not being an ex player and Ling football career was really playing generally at a lower level and hence they took the easy way out and pulled the plug

Fletcher patently had playing ability to a very high level but to come in and within his first 29 days, produce a list of 10 people (players + coaches?) that he wanted to get rid off showed that he really had no idea of the realities and practicalities of running a professional football club. The man was stupid but so were the club in appointing him in the first place.

Yes I agree partially to a point It Is futile me or tuff continuing this theme
I believe the club have a systematic way of replacing players based on their contracts in place. Yes I agree if fletcher produced a list and recommended or desired the people on it were replaced without understanding how Lofc do tend to honour contracts then that was not good.

My final comment on this subject and my hypothesis is that he obviously produced a list of names as travis stated and the club were suprised of some if the names on the list however the evidence since then on interviews is Lofc have as an management entity a process that names players that are capable of playing in league one / two / and those not capable in the future - PI confirmed this which included in the matrix the phrase "probable and possible"

They do nothing different to what fletcher alleged and did produce a list the only difference is fletcher must of been most determined to improve the team quicker than the contracts in place would allow - thus a load of money being wasted in non productive costs transfering /loans out/ or termination - by buying up contract value.

Further a person like fletcher must be very determined character to achieve his playing career and he in his recent Bournmouth newspaper did reveal he was suprised that he was fired after such a short time and further people he relied on to assist him just did not act in a faithful manner.

It is a real travesty for everyone what happened my main beef was not Ross being promoted in the end but the lack of assistance fletcher appears to of received whilst here particularly with Ling doing a latent investigation after ten days instead of having the balls or bottle to be straight up with fletcher and assist him in his new job and the way he laughed and swore in the QA demeaning fletcher like trash

Ling may be a great chum and a great father and husband but on this particular matter he failed and compounded his own failure with no empathy to fletcher

But Ling bends over backwards to support Ross to the point that it's rather obscene as a impartial third party watching from the fan point of view the difference and the way Ling has over emphasised Ross coaching expierence since the age of 16 saying Ross has been a coach for 22 years (most of that not being a pro first team but kids at different ages )and then enhancing it further using the words brilliant if some one is brilliant in any field their cv and production of results indicate that.

End of.

Eh?