Keir Starmer’s Labour leadership performance so far.

[Dunners]

This whole "won the argument" thing: it was a clumsy turn of phrase, but there was a bit of a valid point buried in there. Labour espoused economically left policies which, as evidenced by the Tories signalling a shift leftwards economically, suggest the public are not as right-leaning as some would have us believe.

The Tories have struck that election sweet spot; economic left of centre/socially right of centre. They partially did this to attract votes from Labour. And it was easier for them to make the economic shift that it will be for Labour to make a shift to the right on social policies.

This is not being accepted by any of the leadership candidates or the majority of the membership. And that is why Labour will not only remain out of power for the foreseeable future, but it could yet prove terminal. And maybe that's a good thing, as the collapse of Labour could pave the way for a new and meaningful workers movement. Although, what emerges in such a vacuum isn't always benign.

[Lucky7]

Capitalists hire libertarians to say socialism is bad. Socialists say capitalism is bad for free. And libertarians will say everyone else is bad as long as they get paid.

A revolutionary Marxist says you're a knobend

If you’d have said Maxist I might of believed ya

[slacker]

Starmer’s not a disaster yet has been the least impressive performer of the remaining 3, but if the bookies have got it right he’s an odds-on shoe-in.

Nandy has been the best media performer, but her “blue labour” style politics are a bit dodgy for me. If we’re going to stick with Reform via Labourism, I think RLB (with Raynor as deputy) will do the best job, as her politics are sound and she comes across well 1 to 1, although I’ll grant she’s competent at public oration but not spectacular.

With our FPTP system, I’d rather Labour stayed leftish rather than cynically tack to the vacuous centre - and cuts deals with Libs, Greens and Nats at elections as needs be so they don’t cannibalise each other at election time.

[Thor]

Question for you socialist on here.

Did you buy the house you live in?
Did you haggle on the price?
The car you own, did you haggle on the price?

[slacker]

Yes. No. No.

What’s your point, Thor?

[Disoriented]

Keir now a certainty. Isn’t it time for Nandos and Corbyn’s acolyte to concede defeat now?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Question for you socialist on here.

Did you buy the house you live in?
Did you haggle on the price?
The car you own, did you haggle on the price?

What the hell was this brainfart all about?

[BoniO]

Question for you socialist on here.

Did you buy the house you live in?
Did you haggle on the price?
The car you own, did you haggle on the price?

What the hell was this brainfart all about?

He's cut and pasted it from the Mail or some other right wing rag.

[spen666]

Keir now a certainty. ….

Why is he now a certainty? What have I missed?




PS My money is on Dennis Healey

[Thor]

Question for you socialist on here.

Did you buy the house you live in?
Did you haggle on the price?
The car you own, did you haggle on the price?

What the hell was this brainfart all about?

He's cut and pasted it from the Mail or some other right wing rag.

Err no I never, just proving that those people were not true socialists, but no one bit.

[Max B Gold]

What the hell was this brainfart all about?

He's cut and pasted it from the Mail or some other right wing rag.

Err no I never, just proving that those people were not true socialists, but no one bit.

You are a dull Boarder. Please stop.