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[point nine one eight]

The French tried this a few years ago one or two people lost their head, however at the end of the day, all that happened was one ruling mob was replaced by another

[Sid Bishop]

Well good for them and this new baby will make them and many other people happy. For me though, I think the days of needing Kings and Queens are long gone. Hundreds of years ago they were the leaders of this Country and members of the Royalty would often lead their troops out the battle. IMO, time has moved on and nowadays it would seem that they are mainly just there for tourists and ceremonial reasons, that coupled with all the pomp and tradition involved. It would not worry me one minute if the present Queen was the last Monarch of Uk and the Commonwealth. Perhaps a more streamlined and up to date monarchy would suit me far better where they lived more modest and normal lives in less lavish accommodation etc.

In the past Sid I was of the same opinion as your self, however now I understand the need to keep traditions Royalty or otherwise together it is the fabric of our country and history, why are people so concerned about trying to Destabilise the fabric of our society

why are people so concerned about trying to Destabilise the fabric of our society - Because it's a step towards breaking down the entrenched power and privilege of the 'ruling' classes, most of whom obtain this by nothing other than an accident of birth and not because of any merit they have as individuals.

@EH16
Hundreds of years after the use of slavery in the British Empire was abolished in 1833, even now, many of the wealthiest families in UK owe their immense wealth to those long ago times of sugar trading and plantations which used slaves. Several banks can trace their origins to the financing of the slave trade. Apart from the Barclays Brothers, we also know of Barings and HSBC which can be traced back to Thomas Leyland’s banking house. The Bank of England also had close connections to the trade. Hundreds of Britain’s great houses were built with the wealth of slavery and the Church of England also acknowledges its pecuniary gains from slavery. When slavery was abolished, the ex slave owners were given large compensation by the british government. As many as one-fifth of wealthy Victorian Britons derived all or part of their fortunes from the slave economy. As a result, there are now wealthy families all around the UK still indirectly enjoying the proceeds of slavery where it has been passed on to them. Among those who benefited from slavery are ancestors of George Orwell and poet Elizabeth Barrett Browning. Amongst the many involved in plantations and the slave trade who claimed compensation was John Gladstone, the father of 19th-century Liberal Party prime minister William Gladstone. He received £106,769 (modern equivalent £83m) for the 2,508 slaves he owned across nine plantations. His son, who served as prime minister four times during his 60-year career, was heavily involved in his father's claim.

[Max B Gold]

In the past Sid I was of the same opinion as your self, however now I understand the need to keep traditions Royalty or otherwise together it is the fabric of our country and history, why are people so concerned about trying to Destabilise the fabric of our society

why are people so concerned about trying to Destabilise the fabric of our society - Because it's a step towards breaking down the entrenched power and privilege of the 'ruling' classes, most of whom obtain this by nothing other than an accident of birth and not because of any merit they have as individuals.

@EH16
Even now, hundreds of years after the use of slavery in the British Empire was abolished in 1833. Even now, many of the wealthiest families in UK owe their immense wealth to those long ago times of sugar trading and plantations which used slaves. Several banks can trace their origins to the financing of the slave trade. Apart from the Barclays Brothers, we also know of Barings and HSBC which can be traced back to Thomas Leyland’s banking house. The Bank of England also had close connections to the trade. Hundreds of Britain’s great houses were built with the wealth of slavery and the Church of England also acknowledges its pecuniary gains from slavery. When slavery was abolished, the ex slave owners were given large compensation by the british government. As many as one-fifth of wealthy Victorian Britons derived all or part of their fortunes from the slave economy. As a result, there are now wealthy families all around the UK still indirectly enjoying the proceeds of slavery where it has been passed on to them. Among those who benefited from slavery are ancestors of George Orwell and poet Elizabeth Barrett Browning. Amongst the many involved in plantations and the slave trade who claimed compensation was John Gladstone, the father of 19th-century Liberal Party prime minister William Gladstone. He received £106,769 (modern equivalent £83m) for the 2,508 slaves he owned across nine plantations. His son, who served as prime minister four times during his 60-year career, was heavily involved in his father's claim.

Imperialism the highest form of Capitalism.

[EH16]

In the past Sid I was of the same opinion as your self, however now I understand the need to keep traditions Royalty or otherwise together it is the fabric of our country and history, why are people so concerned about trying to Destabilise the fabric of our society

why are people so concerned about trying to Destabilise the fabric of our society - Because it's a step towards breaking down the entrenched power and privilege of the 'ruling' classes, most of whom obtain this by nothing other than an accident of birth and not because of any merit they have as individuals.

@EH16
Hundreds of years after the use of slavery in the British Empire was abolished in 1833, even now, many of the wealthiest families in UK owe their immense wealth to those long ago times of sugar trading and plantations which used slaves. Several banks can trace their origins to the financing of the slave trade. Apart from the Barclays Brothers, we also know of Barings and HSBC which can be traced back to Thomas Leyland’s banking house. The Bank of England also had close connections to the trade. Hundreds of Britain’s great houses were built with the wealth of slavery and the Church of England also acknowledges its pecuniary gains from slavery. When slavery was abolished, the ex slave owners were given large compensation by the british government. As many as one-fifth of wealthy Victorian Britons derived all or part of their fortunes from the slave economy. As a result, there are now wealthy families all around the UK still indirectly enjoying the proceeds of slavery where it has been passed on to them. Among those who benefited from slavery are ancestors of George Orwell and poet Elizabeth Barrett Browning. Amongst the many involved in plantations and the slave trade who claimed compensation was John Gladstone, the father of 19th-century Liberal Party prime minister William Gladstone. He received £106,769 (modern equivalent £83m) for the 2,508 slaves he owned across nine plantations. His son, who served as prime minister four times during his 60-year career, was heavily involved in his father's claim.

Thanks but the history lesson wasn't at all needed. All stuff I was already well aware of and simply reinforces my point about smashing unearned class privilege.

[Sid Bishop]

why are people so concerned about trying to Destabilise the fabric of our society - Because it's a step towards breaking down the entrenched power and privilege of the 'ruling' classes, most of whom obtain this by nothing other than an accident of birth and not because of any merit they have as individuals.

@EH16
Hundreds of years after the use of slavery in the British Empire was abolished in 1833, even now, many of the wealthiest families in UK owe their immense wealth to those long ago times of sugar trading and plantations which used slaves. Several banks can trace their origins to the financing of the slave trade. Apart from the Barclays Brothers, we also know of Barings and HSBC which can be traced back to Thomas Leyland’s banking house. The Bank of England also had close connections to the trade. Hundreds of Britain’s great houses were built with the wealth of slavery and the Church of England also acknowledges its pecuniary gains from slavery. When slavery was abolished, the ex slave owners were given large compensation by the british government. As many as one-fifth of wealthy Victorian Britons derived all or part of their fortunes from the slave economy. As a result, there are now wealthy families all around the UK still indirectly enjoying the proceeds of slavery where it has been passed on to them. Among those who benefited from slavery are ancestors of George Orwell and poet Elizabeth Barrett Browning. Amongst the many involved in plantations and the slave trade who claimed compensation was John Gladstone, the father of 19th-century Liberal Party prime minister William Gladstone. He received £106,769 (modern equivalent £83m) for the 2,508 slaves he owned across nine plantations. His son, who served as prime minister four times during his 60-year career, was heavily involved in his father's claim.

Thanks but the history lesson wasn't at all needed. All stuff I was already well aware of and simply reinforces my point about smashing unearned class privilege.

@EH16
Ok you were aware, but there may be some who go on this forum who were not as aware as you are of the past history of how the slave trading and sugar plantations gave huge wealth to the many of the richest families of that era, the results of which are still evident today.
Even ex Prime Minister David Cameron was revealed to have slave-owners in his family background in 2013 when researchers from University College London examined compensation payments made to Britain’s most powerful families following the UK abolition of slavery in 1833.

[Howling Mad Murdock]

Doris Day 97 R,I.P.

[Clive Evans]

Sadly the singer of our Wembley anthem has gone and croaked at the fine old age of 97. Surely worth a thread of her own. This must be the most Universal of English Football songs. RIP Doris Day

[Clive Evans]

Just gave Miss Day a thread of her own. She has sung her way into the hearts of all Football Fans in the UK. We must give her a rousing chorus at Wembley.

[Admin]

Just gave Miss Day a thread of her own. She has sung her way into the hearts of all Football Fans in the UK. We must give her a rousing chorus at Wembley.

Appreciate the sentiment but have merged your post into this thread here.

[Clive Evans]

Appreciate the sentiment but have merged your post into this thread here..........................................................So you have effectively buried my thread. Great! I bet most of our younger readers don't realise that Miss Day popularised the one song that English fans love to sing when they they feel that they are Wembley bound. Particularly galling when that is where we are going in 6 days time. A little power can be a dangerous thing. Well done the immoderators.

[tuffers#1]

Appreciate the sentiment but have merged your post into this thread here..........................................................So you have effectively buried my thread. Great! I bet most of our younger readers don't realise that Miss Day popularised the one song that English fans love to sing when they they feel that they are Wembley bound. Particularly galling when that is where we are going in 6 days time. A little power can be a dangerous thing. Well done the immoderators.

Would they care that some random old person sang a song ?
Its not like she wrote it !

[y o y o y]

What will be will be

[Bergen]

Jon Gittens (55). RIP

Former Southampton, Torquay, Exeter and Pompey defender.

[tuffers#1]

F1 Legend Nikki Lauda gone aged 70 R.I.P

Nikki who
Lauda
NIKKI WHO ?

[Lovejoy]

Former Coronation Street and Butterflies actor Andrew Hall has died at the age of 65.

[StockholmO]

Happy Birthday Jeremy Corbyn.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Jose Reyes, former Arsenal player, dies at 35. No age, RIP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48483157

[Rich Tea Wellin]

And Rory Erickson of the 13th Floor Elevators dies at 71

[Disoriented]

American Gangster, Frank Lucas finally checks out.

[Real Al]

Dr. John dies at age 77 of a heart attack.

[tuffers#1]

Philomena Lynott
Mother & Biggest fan of Phil Lynott &
Author of My Boy ( about her son obv').

She had a very hard life for the 1st few years after he was born & was devastated about his death.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

RIP Justin Edinburgh

[Thor]

Vinnie Jones wife has died of cancer aged 53.

[Real Al]

Vinnie Jones wife has died of cancer aged 53.

Seems she'd been through a lot. Emergency heart transplant at 21, cervical cancer and skin cancer.

[Disoriented]

Primark founder, Arthur Ryan, passes away aged 83. Rumour has it that in keeping with the company’s policies, his funeral will be conducted by under-aged children from Bangladesh who will be paid 25p for the privilege of serving the great man.