So she as been deemed to not be a British Citizen anymore, so who is paying the bills for the people legally representing her ?
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Her family ???Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:53 pmSo she as been deemed to not be a British Citizen anymore, so who is paying the bills for the people legally representing her ?
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Ohh really ?Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:21 pmHer family ???Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:53 pmSo she as been deemed to not be a British Citizen anymore, so who is paying the bills for the people legally representing her ?
Well back in April 2019 the British tax payer was paying her legal fees so it will no doubt come out as to if still the same now.
Shamima Begum is on legal aid despite being stripped of UK citizenship: Fury as jihadi bride’s legal fees are paid by taxpayers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... nship.html
Shamima Begum was granted legal aid to fight the removal of her citizenship
Lawyers were successful in asking for taxpayers' cash on Shamima's behalf
Taxpayers face legal bill which could run into hundreds of thousands of pounds
Shamima Begum was granted legal aid to fight the removal of her citizenship
Lawyers were successful in asking for taxpayers' cash on Shamima's behalf
Taxpayers face legal bill which could run into hundreds of thousands of pounds
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Keep telling yourself that as more and more kids end up stabbing and killing people because mental health support is limited, that prisons can’t take more people, that anyone growing up relying on foodbanks and feeling like their prime minister hates them aren’t being pushed further and further close to the edge.
These are kids who are stabbing people in the street. That’s not something that just happens one day when you wake up in a bad mood. Radicalisation is the last step for kids who are vulnerable and looking for a way out of a society that has let them down, and continues to do so.
Or take the easy option so we don’t have to look at ourselves, or our government and blame the brown peoples bad religion.
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I was always of the opinion that it was illegal to strip a citizen of their citizenship under international law. The home secretary said she has Bangla Deshi citizenship, but Bangla Desh denies this, so it is illegal what the British government is doing.
IMO she has become a focus for the British government to prove how tough it is, and not to be messed with.
As far as im concerned she's a British citizen, and should be punished by the courts for her actions
IMO she has become a focus for the British government to prove how tough it is, and not to be messed with.
As far as im concerned she's a British citizen, and should be punished by the courts for her actions
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Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:56 pmKeep telling yourself that as more and more kids end up stabbing and killing people because mental health support is limited, that prisons can’t take more people, that anyone growing up relying on foodbanks and feeling like their prime minister hates them aren’t being pushed further and further close to the edge.
These are kids who are stabbing people in the street. That’s not something that just happens one day when you wake up in a bad mood. Radicalisation is the last step for kids who are vulnerable and looking for a way out of a society that has let them down, and continues to do so.
Or take the easy option so we don’t have to look at ourselves, or our government and blame the brown peoples bad religion.
Rubbish. The people stabbing each other are mainly drug dealers, what planet you on?
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I was being sarcastic.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:45 pmOhh really ?Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:21 pmHer family ???Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:53 pm
So she as been deemed to not be a British Citizen anymore, so who is paying the bills for the people legally representing her ?
Well back in April 2019 the British tax payer was paying her legal fees so it will no doubt come out as to if still the same now.
Shamima Begum is on legal aid despite being stripped of UK citizenship: Fury as jihadi bride’s legal fees are paid by taxpayers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... nship.html
Shamima Begum was granted legal aid to fight the removal of her citizenship
Lawyers were successful in asking for taxpayers' cash on Shamima's behalf
Taxpayers face legal bill which could run into hundreds of thousands of pounds
Shamima Begum was granted legal aid to fight the removal of her citizenship
Lawyers were successful in asking for taxpayers' cash on Shamima's behalf
Taxpayers face legal bill which could run into hundreds of thousands of pounds
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This Government knows, that no other Country will take her considering, she had lived in the UK since she was born, it is all, about, looking, to be tough.
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You're conflating so many issues into one its hilarious and you've hit almost every cliche I can think of.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:56 pmKeep telling yourself that as more and more kids end up stabbing and killing people because mental health support is limited, that prisons can’t take more people, that anyone growing up relying on foodbanks and feeling like their prime minister hates them aren’t being pushed further and further close to the edge.
These are kids who are stabbing people in the street. That’s not something that just happens one day when you wake up in a bad mood. Radicalisation is the last step for kids who are vulnerable and looking for a way out of a society that has let them down, and continues to do so.
Or take the easy option so we don’t have to look at ourselves, or our government and blame the brown peoples bad religion.
You actually make a good point about knife crime but let yourself down by descending into generalizing about terrorism by stating what you feel their motives are based on your worldview.
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Meanwhile...........
Preacher who inspired Streatham terror attack peddling jihad from behind bars.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/preacher-insp ... 00924.html
Although Faisal is under arrest in Jamaica, awaiting extradition to the US on terrorism charges, his influence endures
Hundreds of sermons preached by the Islamist cleric who inspired the men who carried out the terrorist attacks in Streatham and on London Bridge in November are available on a website that allows his followers to communicate in private chatrooms, the Observer has established.
Faisal, who was born Trevor William Forrest, was jailed in the UK in 2003 for three counts related to soliciting murder and for stirring up racial hatred. He was released in 2007 and deported to Jamaica but he has continued to inspire younger followers, including in Kenya where he has spent some time.
In 2014 Faisal gave a lecture describing Isis’s creation of the caliphate as the fulfilment of a prophecy.
In 2017 the ADL reported that Authentic Tauheed has published nearly 200 posts on topics that it considers are “antisemitic, anti-Christian, anti-American and anti-gay, to blatant endorsements of the Islamic State”, most of them from Faisal.
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Thought we were on terrorism?Thor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:32 pmApple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:56 pmKeep telling yourself that as more and more kids end up stabbing and killing people because mental health support is limited, that prisons can’t take more people, that anyone growing up relying on foodbanks and feeling like their prime minister hates them aren’t being pushed further and further close to the edge.
These are kids who are stabbing people in the street. That’s not something that just happens one day when you wake up in a bad mood. Radicalisation is the last step for kids who are vulnerable and looking for a way out of a society that has let them down, and continues to do so.
Or take the easy option so we don’t have to look at ourselves, or our government and blame the brown peoples bad religion.
Rubbish. The people stabbing each other are mainly drug dealers, what planet you on?
Either way, the fact it’s as black and white for you as ‘they are drug dealers’ or ‘they are terrorists’ shows the level of thinking many people invest in these issues. Shame they were all born drug dealers and terrorists and society can’t change that
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I am conflating, because I don’t have 3 months to break down every issue we face.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:55 pmYou're conflating so many issues into one its hilarious and you've hit almost every cliche I can think of.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:56 pmKeep telling yourself that as more and more kids end up stabbing and killing people because mental health support is limited, that prisons can’t take more people, that anyone growing up relying on foodbanks and feeling like their prime minister hates them aren’t being pushed further and further close to the edge.
These are kids who are stabbing people in the street. That’s not something that just happens one day when you wake up in a bad mood. Radicalisation is the last step for kids who are vulnerable and looking for a way out of a society that has let them down, and continues to do so.
Or take the easy option so we don’t have to look at ourselves, or our government and blame the brown peoples bad religion.
You actually make a good point about knife crime but let yourself down by descending into generalizing about terrorism by stating what you feel their motives are based on your worldview.
It’s a theory on what their motives are, which, in about 4 sentences, has more explanation than ‘it’s because of religion’. Which is about as far as most people on here have got, as well as our politicians.
Seems to be working so far though.
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Your theory (which I think you know) is wrong and is also just as wrong those that went before it. It's not based in fact whatsoeverApple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:19 pmI am conflating, because I don’t have 3 months to break down every issue we face.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:55 pmYou're conflating so many issues into one its hilarious and you've hit almost every cliche I can think of.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:56 pm
Keep telling yourself that as more and more kids end up stabbing and killing people because mental health support is limited, that prisons can’t take more people, that anyone growing up relying on foodbanks and feeling like their prime minister hates them aren’t being pushed further and further close to the edge.
These are kids who are stabbing people in the street. That’s not something that just happens one day when you wake up in a bad mood. Radicalisation is the last step for kids who are vulnerable and looking for a way out of a society that has let them down, and continues to do so.
Or take the easy option so we don’t have to look at ourselves, or our government and blame the brown peoples bad religion.
You actually make a good point about knife crime but let yourself down by descending into generalizing about terrorism by stating what you feel their motives are based on your worldview.
It’s a theory on what their motives are, which, in about 4 sentences, has more explanation than ‘it’s because of religion’. Which is about as far as most people on here have got, as well as our politicians.
Seems to be working so far though.
However if it makes you feel good about yourself then at least it has some merit I suppose
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What on earth are you going on about? None of it 'makes me feel good'. And it's not fact, but again, nothing more 'factual' is being served up.
Suspect I know why you refuse to even consider that it could be something other than 'Its Just looking IZLARM m8'. But that's not factual either, i suppose.
Suspect I know why you refuse to even consider that it could be something other than 'Its Just looking IZLARM m8'. But that's not factual either, i suppose.
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Well at least we got an admission your theory was a bunch of bollocks. It's a start I suppose
As for your second paragraph, great strawman
As for your second paragraph, great strawman
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Awaiting your theory with excitement and anxiety