Bergen wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:13 pm
Zain Westbrooke was pretty poor for us two seasons ago (in National League), but is now being followed by a number of Championship Clubs.
Players can improve. Marsh is young and will get better.
Don’t remember him getting much of a look in, to be honest. Did he start any games for us?
Of course Marsh will improve. I can see him going on to have a career in the bottom two divisions. But as things stand now, he isn’t what we need.
If we’re going to give a young kid a shot, to help him reach his potential, I’d much rather it was one of our own. Such as Hector.
Bergen wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:13 pm
Zain Westbrooke was pretty poor for us two seasons ago (in National League), but is now being followed by a number of Championship Clubs.
Players can improve. Marsh is young and will get better.
Don’t remember him getting much of a look in, to be honest. Did he start any games for us?
Of course Marsh will improve. I can see him going on to have a career in the bottom two divisions. But as things stand now, he isn’t what we need.
If we’re going to give a young kid a shot, to help him reach his potential, I’d much rather it was one of our own. Such as Hector.
Bergen wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:13 pm
Zain Westbrooke was pretty poor for us two seasons ago (in National League), but is now being followed by a number of Championship Clubs.
Players can improve. Marsh is young and will get better.
Don’t remember him getting much of a look in, to be honest. Did he start any games for us?
Probably our best midfielder, but that's not saying much. We need players that are excellent for this league now, not in a few years. We shouldn't just be developing other clubs players.
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm
I'm ok with us keeping Marsh if we also bring in a quality mobile defensive midfielder to replace Clay.
Gorman can do one as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully someone offers him an 18 month or longer deal in the next few weeks.
But Marsh is supposed to be this elusive quality mobile defensive midfielder? That’s his role. Not Clays.
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:20 pm
Probably our best midfielder, but that's not saying much. We need players that are excellent for this league now, not in a few years. We shouldn't just be developing other clubs players.
True, but every so often they get cast off and we get them back and they become good players for us.
Bergen wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:13 pm
Zain Westbrooke was pretty poor for us two seasons ago (in National League), but is now being followed by a number of Championship Clubs.
Players can improve. Marsh is young and will get better.
Don’t remember him getting much of a look in, to be honest. Did he start any games for us?
Not really gonna improve us much unless we get someone else in.
One of Clay or Gorman has to go this window. Both should be able to command a first-team spot in National League so there should be takers, but we might have to pay to make it happen. Personally I think the board thinking 'they are National League winners, we shouldn't be giving them away for free'.
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:20 pm
I'm ok with us keeping Marsh if we also bring in a quality mobile defensive midfielder to replace Clay.
Gorman can do one as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully someone offers him an 18 month or longer deal in the next few weeks.
But Marsh is supposed to be this elusive quality mobile defensive midfielder? That’s his role. Not Clays.
I'm with you on this. He's supposed to be but is not though sadly. So we need to improve on what we've got and improve the performance as a whole by getting one.
If we're not going to get one in because we renewed Marsh and don't want to move Clay (or Gorman) then that's poor. Yes, Marsh will develop somewhat but we need a player for now and not next season.
eagwgw wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:48 am
He's done OK.
Not really gonna improve us much unless we get someone else in.
One of Clay or Gorman has to go this window. Both should be able to command a first-team spot in National League so there should be takers, but we might have to pay to make it happen. Personally I think the board thinking 'they are National League winners, we shouldn't be giving them away for free'.
I've always liked Gorman and still think he could establish himself in the first team given the opportunity , yes I know people would say he's had loads of chances but a gut feeling tells me he's gonna come good one day soon .
Gorman has never had a good run in the team not afraid to tackle or take a shot on and passes it forward unlike Clay and Wright might be good alongside Marsh
I cannot why people getting up tight about keeping marsh,there are other issues with the team,two forwards up front how many goals have they scored between them ? goals in the back of our net through cosses,corners leaving players unmarked to help themselves to goals,when we attack we never get that room up front.
Allways Westside wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:24 am
I cannot why people getting up tight about keeping marsh,there are other issues with the team,two forwards up front how many goals have they scored between them ? goals in the back of our net through cosses,corners leaving players unmarked to help themselves to goals,when we attack we never get that room up front.
I’m getting ‘uptight’ because I see our midfield 3 as the main issue with this team.
The only reason we have 3 in there is because we haven’t got 2 good enough to play there, so have to make up for it with the extra man. Despite that, they still fail to properly shield the back line, hence the never ending crosses coming into the box, some of which teams will score from. They also fail to create any opportunities for our strikers.
The problems you mention all come from our poo poo midfield. I would ditch any of them and bring in better, but as clay and Wright are both contracted, they ain’t going anywhere. The one we could have swapped out is Marsh and we’ve failed to take that opportunity.
Redo, you are spot on. I just don’t understand why the management can’t see what we see every bloody game, our midfield being overrun, outfought. We are too lightweight and lack both energy and creativity.
, yes I know people would say he's had loads of chances but a gut feeling tells me he's gonna come good one day soon .
