Ross Embleton Full Match Record

[Thor]

It would appear that we are about to embark on a period with Ross as our head coach. A role that he has previously decided wasn’t for him. We have all heard Ling keep on pushing the merits of Ross to inherit the top job, which quite frankly at times has been emabarrasing. It is clear to me that Ross is not the man for the role in my opinion. We appear to be devoid of a pattern of play, our tactics seem inept and how many formations has he tried? A player wants to know what the plan is, where are we going and how are we going to get there. I did not see any evidence of a roadmap in anything that we do.

Ling it would appear has blindsided the board in to following his mantra. I would suggest that he is scared to find us a top quality head coach for the level we are at to come in for fear of a) challenging him and more importantly b) fear of failure.

I get the continuity angle which the owners appear so entrenched into following, most businesses do operate in such a fashion and let’s be honest a person born within the culture is going to be the best exponent of it. So I get it. What I fail to grasp is why they wish to persist with a person who publicly stated he didn’t want it, who has failed to demonstrate he deserves it (results based) and has a clear plan on where we are going. Right now it feels like it did under Bullshitti where we couldn’t buy a win. Remember we are only 1 point better today than he season we lost our league status, let that sink in for a moment.

So Ross was appointed to the role of whatever on the 14/11/17 and during that time he played 3 games and won zero of them.
He took up the mantle once more on 3/6 under terrible circumstances and it was only after he quit the role did results pick up with 5 wins from 16 games.
Finally he resumed his role on the 16/11 having won only 1 from 9 games.

Played 3 Won 0 D2 L1 Win 0%
Played 16 Won 5 D4 L7 Win 31%
Played 9 Won 1 D4 L4 Win 11%
Overall 28 Won 6 D10 L12 Win 21%

If we extrapolate the numbers over a 46 game season then we will end up with 44 points which is in the squeaky bum zone.

Just for comparison and we all know how bad Davis was he was fired for having a 27% win rate.

If he gets the job it will put to bed the uncertainty and I will support him like I have every orient manager. However, I do not believe he is the best placed candidate to take on this role right now, and right now we need certainty and a roadmap.

[Luna Tic]

I’m
Losing confidence in them appointing the right man or at-least a man most fans can agree on being a very sensible appointment. They seem in decisive and I have a horrible feeling Ross will be offered . Not what we need though and most can see that

[Lucky7]

It’s already been done zzzzz

[cymruO]

If Ross is offered - he can refuse. But would he and could he?

[Luna Tic]

Far easier to leave Ross in his actual job because he’s good at that and get someone whose good at managing and move on . It’s not difficult really . Let people do what they are good at and
What they really want to do . Ross had no wish to be a manager, which isn’t a good start

[moonwalk19]

It would appear that we are about to embark on a period with Ross as our head coach. A role that he has previously decided wasn’t for him. We have all heard Ling keep on pushing the merits of Ross to inherit the top job, which quite frankly at times has been emabarrasing. It is clear to me that Ross is not the man for the role in my opinion. We appear to be devoid of a pattern of play, our tactics seem inept and how many formations has he tried? A player wants to know what the plan is, where are we going and how are we going to get there. I did not see any evidence of a roadmap in anything that we do.

Ling it would appear has blindsided the board in to following his mantra. I would suggest that he is scared to find us a top quality head coach for the level we are at to come in for fear of a) challenging him and more importantly b) fear of failure.

I get the continuity angle which the owners appear so entrenched into following, most businesses do operate in such a fashion and let’s be honest a person born within the culture is going to be the best exponent of it. So I get it. What I fail to grasp is why they wish to persist with a person who publicly stated he didn’t want it, who has failed to demonstrate he deserves it (results based) and has a clear plan on where we are going. Right now it feels like it did under Bullshitti where we couldn’t buy a win. Remember we are only 1 point better today than he season we lost our league status, let that sink in for a moment.

So Ross was appointed to the role of whatever on the 14/11/17 and during that time he played 3 games and won zero of them.
He took up the mantle once more on 3/6 under terrible circumstances and it was only after he quit the role did results pick up with 5 wins from 16 games.
Finally he resumed his role on the 16/11 having won only 1 from 9 games.

Played 3 Won 0 D2 L1 Win 0%
Played 16 Won 5 D4 L7 Win 31%
Played 9 Won 1 D4 L4 Win 11%
Overall 28 Won 6 D10 L12 Win 21%

If we extrapolate the numbers over a 46 game season then we will end up with 44 points which is in the squeaky bum zone.

Just for comparison and we all know how bad Davis was he was fired for having a 27% win rate.

If he gets the job it will put to bed the uncertainty and I will support him like I have every orient manager. However, I do not believe he is the best placed candidate to take on this role right now, and right now we need certainty and a roadmap.

Results clearly show that with any other club he would be sacked. I totally agree with you Ross is not the answer and I cannot see us getting sufficient wins over the next 8-10 games to change my view. We will then be in a relegation dogfight which none of us want. We obviously don’t want a CF scenario to happen again. I hope that my negative view of Ross will change time will tell

[Howling Mad Murdock]

Operation FiascO is going well.

[eagwgw]

I do wonder if the players simply don't want him, or they want a better boss.

Seem to remember he was in the running the first time around.... then the 3-0 at Torquay happened which was such a bad performance which really underlined the fact we were in danger of another relegation.

We sneaked past Cheltenham on the first day of the season in a game helped by red cards but only won 1 of the next 11 games.... as soon as Ross steps down the team make a massive improvement.

He took charge again the second time and manage to deliver some improvements over Fletcher, but the last three games in terms of performance has been really poor.

One noticeable aspect of the Fletcher regime is that I recall barely any player interviews praising him or his training methods...quite understandable if many didn't like him. But similarly it seems to have gone all quiet from the players on Embleton as well, and this at a time when he could do with some public backing from some of the bigger personalities in the team.

[Thor]

Also we have not beaten any of the teams below us yet people on here think we are safe!

We are only 1 point better off than the year we were relegated out the league.

Our performances are shocking and show a lack of progress being made.

The comments of “they didn’t follow the game plan” seem to say the players aren’t listening has he lost or is losing the dressing room?

Wake up people this is serious.