Andrew Marr

[Max B Gold]

Excellent to see Sid Bishop cut and pasting the views of a Trotskyite Marxist to support his argument.

[tuffers#1]

It’s all part of the plan for a one world government.

In other words a dictatorship where elections are no longer needed or ALLOWED !
Similar to the other one party Communist Countries of the World. Next step when that comes in, any dissenting voices to be locked up, brainwashed into the CORRECT way of thinking ! Happening already with China's brainwashing of Uighurs in prison camps. Funny how the many Lefties on this forum NEVER EVER mention these things about what happens to Countries when the Communists take control. Stalin also murdered many of his own population when leading the USSR.

Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

[Sid Bishop]

It’s all part of the plan for a one world government.

In other words a dictatorship where elections are no longer needed or ALLOWED !
Similar to the other one party Communist Countries of the World. Next step when that comes in, any dissenting voices to be locked up, brainwashed into the CORRECT way of thinking ! Happening already with China's brainwashing of Uighurs in prison camps. Funny how the many Lefties on this forum NEVER EVER mention these things about what happens to Countries when the Communists take control. Stalin also murdered many of his own population when leading the USSR.

Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

So of course you turn a BLIND EYE to the torturing and locking up of its own people and also the current slow subjugation of Hong Kong. The young people of Hong Kong have shown their opinion of Communist China, as did the students who were murdered in their thousands in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. Communist states always end up as one party states with a rich ruling elite and an end to free speech for the masses !!

“ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL / BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.” This phrase has been used by George Orwell in his phenomenal novel Animal Farm. This is, in fact, one of the seven commandments for the Animal Farm pigs reinterpreted by the evil new leader ''Napoleon''
Snowball was the first leader of Animal farm. He is more intelligent than Napoleon but lacks Napoleon's depth of character. He is also a brilliant orator. Snowball, who represents ''Leon Trotsky'' who is a progressive politician and aims to improve Animal Farm with a windmill and other technological advances, but Napoleon who represents ''Joseph Stalin'' expels him before he can do so. After ''Snowball'' is sent into exile, Boxer the hardworking, but naive and ignorant cart horse tries to think things over for himself, but all he can come up with is, "If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be right," and he takes up a new personal motto: "Napoleon is always right" Napoleon, the pig who emerges as the leader of Animal Farm after the Rebellion is based on Joseph Stalin, Napoleon uses military force (his nine loyal attack dogs) e.g Stalins secret police..... to intimidate the other animals and consolidate his power. In his supreme craftiness, Napoleon proves more treacherous than his counterpart, Snowball.
So if you wish UK to become an extreme left wing Country, be careful what you wish for !

[Sid Bishop]

Excellent to see Sid Bishop cut and pasting the views of a Trotskyite Marxist to support his argument.

Go take a visit to China and while you are there, visit the estimated million Uighur Muslims who are locked up in the ''re-education'' ( concentration ) camps. Be careful though, because if you use freedom of speech, you may never be seen again !

Surviving China’s Uighur camps

[Thor]

Scrap the licence fee is what i say.

[Max B Gold]

Excellent to see Sid Bishop cut and pasting the views of a Trotskyite Marxist to support his argument.

Go take a visit to China and while you are there, visit the estimated million Uighur Muslims who are locked up in the ''re-education'' ( concentration ) camps. Be careful though, because if you use freedom of speech, you may never be seen again !

Surviving China’s Uighur camps

I don't think they are allowed visitors so it would be a wasted trip.

Didn't realise you were right intae human rights and freedom of speech stuff. Will you be extending your new hobby to include the UK and other countries?

[Chief crazy horse]

In other words a dictatorship where elections are no longer needed or ALLOWED !
Similar to the other one party Communist Countries of the World. Next step when that comes in, any dissenting voices to be locked up, brainwashed into the CORRECT way of thinking ! Happening already with China's brainwashing of Uighurs in prison camps. Funny how the many Lefties on this forum NEVER EVER mention these things about what happens to Countries when the Communists take control. Stalin also murdered many of his own population when leading the USSR.

Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

So of course you turn a BLIND EYE to the torturing and locking up of its own people and also the current slow subjugation of Hong Kong. The young people of Hong Kong have shown their opinion of Communist China, as did the students who were murdered in their thousands in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. Communist states always end up as one party states with a rich ruling elite and an end to free speech for the masses !!

“ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL / BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.” This phrase has been used by George Orwell in his phenomenal novel Animal Farm. This is, in fact, one of the seven commandments for the Animal Farm pigs reinterpreted by the evil new leader ''Napoleon''
Snowball was the first leader of Animal farm. He is more intelligent than Napoleon but lacks Napoleon's depth of character. He is also a brilliant orator. Snowball, who represents ''Leon Trotsky'' who is a progressive politician and aims to improve Animal Farm with a windmill and other technological advances, but Napoleon who represents ''Joseph Stalin'' expels him before he can do so. After ''Snowball'' is sent into exile, Boxer the hardworking, but naive and ignorant cart horse tries to think things over for himself, but all he can come up with is, "If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be right," and he takes up a new personal motto: "Napoleon is always right" Napoleon, the pig who emerges as the leader of Animal Farm after the Rebellion is based on Joseph Stalin, Napoleon uses military force (his nine loyal attack dogs) e.g Stalins secret police..... to intimidate the other animals and consolidate his power. In his supreme craftiness, Napoleon proves more treacherous than his counterpart, Snowball.
So if you wish UK to become an extreme left wing Country, be careful what you wish for !

Can't argue with that first paragraph Sid. Well put. And how I empathise with the young people of Hong Kong! I hope they prevail, although I have my doubts.

[Thor]

Excellent to see Sid Bishop cut and pasting the views of a Trotskyite Marxist to support his argument.

Go take a visit to China and while you are there, visit the estimated million Uighur Muslims who are locked up in the ''re-education'' ( concentration ) camps. Be careful though, because if you use freedom of speech, you may never be seen again !

Surviving China’s Uighur camps

I don't think they are allowed visitors so it would be a wasted trip.

Didn't realise you were right intae human rights and freedom of speech stuff. Will you be extending your new hobby to include the UK and other countries?

Max where are we lacking human rights and free speech in this country? Proof please of your claim.

[tuffers#1]

In other words a dictatorship where elections are no longer needed or ALLOWED !
Similar to the other one party Communist Countries of the World. Next step when that comes in, any dissenting voices to be locked up, brainwashed into the CORRECT way of thinking ! Happening already with China's brainwashing of Uighurs in prison camps. Funny how the many Lefties on this forum NEVER EVER mention these things about what happens to Countries when the Communists take control. Stalin also murdered many of his own population when leading the USSR.

Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

So of course you turn a BLIND EYE to the torturing and locking up of its own people and also the current slow subjugation of Hong Kong. The young people of Hong Kong have shown their opinion of Communist China, as did the students who were murdered in their thousands in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. Communist states always end up as one party states with a rich ruling elite and an end to free speech for the masses !!

“ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL / BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.” This phrase has been used by George Orwell in his phenomenal novel Animal Farm. This is, in fact, one of the seven commandments for the Animal Farm pigs reinterpreted by the evil new leader ''Napoleon''
Snowball was the first leader of Animal farm. He is more intelligent than Napoleon but lacks Napoleon's depth of character. He is also a brilliant orator. Snowball, who represents ''Leon Trotsky'' who is a progressive politician and aims to improve Animal Farm with a windmill and other technological advances, but Napoleon who represents ''Joseph Stalin'' expels him before he can do so. After ''Snowball'' is sent into exile, Boxer the hardworking, but naive and ignorant cart horse tries to think things over for himself, but all he can come up with is, "If Comrade Napoleon says it, it must be right," and he takes up a new personal motto: "Napoleon is always right" Napoleon, the pig who emerges as the leader of Animal Farm after the Rebellion is based on Joseph Stalin, Napoleon uses military force (his nine loyal attack dogs) e.g Stalins secret police..... to intimidate the other animals and consolidate his power. In his supreme craftiness, Napoleon proves more treacherous than his counterpart, Snowball.
So if you wish UK to become an extreme left wing Country, be careful what you wish for !

Must be the same blind eye that forgets to see genocide in Ireland in Africa in India & anywhere else the Empire touched .

But then you'll say, . All they do is moan about how great Great Britain once was .


I remember watching a poor bloke recounting the story of his torture in Q8 by the Iraqis on 1 of many documentaries.
He was very scared , but a simple sentence by the torturers sent a shiver down his spine & gave him the greatest fear he was about to lose his life ,when he was sat in a netal chair with electrical rods where the seat should have been .

" We've been taught by the very best .

Britains S.A.S"..

[BoniO]

I think I'll start a thread entitled "When should you plant daffodil bulbs?" and see how many posts it takes before Sid begins his C & P's about the dangers of communism.

[tuffers#1]

I think I'll start a thread entitled "When should you plant daffodil bulbs?" and see how many posts it takes before Sid begins his C & P's about the dangers of communism.

[Max B Gold]

Go take a visit to China and while you are there, visit the estimated million Uighur Muslims who are locked up in the ''re-education'' ( concentration ) camps. Be careful though, because if you use freedom of speech, you may never be seen again !

Surviving China’s Uighur camps

I don't think they are allowed visitors so it would be a wasted trip.

Didn't realise you were right intae human rights and freedom of speech stuff. Will you be extending your new hobby to include the UK and other countries?

Max where are we lacking human rights and free speech in this country? Proof please of your claim.

So you haven't heard of the Windrush scandal then.

[Sid Bishop]

quote=tuffers#1 post_id=69458 time=1575453667 user_id=86]


Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

[/quote]
So of course you turn a BLIND EYE to the torturing and locking up of its own people and also the current slow subjugation of Hong Kong. The young people of Hong Kong have shown their opinion of Communist China, as did the students who were murdered in their thousands in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. Communist states always end up as one party states with a rich ruling elite and an end to free speech for the masses !!


Can't argue with that first paragraph Sid. Well put. And how I empathise with the young people of Hong Kong! I hope they prevail, although I have my doubts.
[/quote]

Tuffers, Max, etc.

Perhaps you and others of a similar mindset should all go and take a Christmas trip to the Chinese Uighur Concentration camps to express your opinions on the glory's and joys of Communism and also of course give a few speeches praising ''freedom of speech' in China !! If you manage to get away unscathed to continue on your journey of the ''Joys of socialism'' then go to Hong Kong to give your opinions to the students and many others who are fighting to escape from the grasp of Communist China, people who would like nothing better than to be under the old rule of the ( hated by you ) United Kingdom. Last stop could be North Korea, but dont say too much there otherwise it may be a one way trip !! Of course non of you would DARE to do such a thing, just keep barking your nonsense while you stay safely in the places where you say you dislike being so much.
All Billy big talk and no action !

[Sid Bishop]

I think I'll start a thread entitled "When should you plant daffodil bulbs?" and see how many posts it takes before Sid begins his C & P's about the dangers of communism.

Go plant those ''daffodil bulbs'' in North Korea and see how they bloom !

[Max B Gold]

quote=tuffers#1 post_id=69458 time=1575453667 user_id=86]


Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

So of course you turn a BLIND EYE to the torturing and locking up of its own people and also the current slow subjugation of Hong Kong. The young people of Hong Kong have shown their opinion of Communist China, as did the students who were murdered in their thousands in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. Communist states always end up as one party states with a rich ruling elite and an end to free speech for the masses !!


Can't argue with that first paragraph Sid. Well put. And how I empathise with the young people of Hong Kong! I hope they prevail, although I have my doubts.
[/quote]

Tuffers, Max, etc.

Perhaps you and others of a similar mindset should all go and take a Christmas trip to the Chinese Uighur Concentration camps to express your opinions on the glory's and joys of Communism and also of course give a few speeches praising ''freedom of speech' in China !! If you manage to get away unscathed to continue on your journey of the ''Joys of socialism'' then go to Hong Kong to give your opinions to the students and many others who are fighting to escape from the grasp of Communist China, people who would like nothing better than to be under the old rule of the ( hated by you ) United Kingdom. Last stop could be North Korea, but dont say too much there otherwise it may be a one way trip !! Of course non of you would DARE to do such a thing, just keep barking your nonsense while you stay safely in the places where you say you dislike being so much.
All Billy big talk and no action !
[/quote]

Comrade Gammon

You are seriously confused if you believe I am a supporter of Chinese or North Korean communism.

[Sid Bishop]

quote=tuffers#1 post_id=69458 time=1575453667 user_id=86]


Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

So of course you turn a BLIND EYE to the torturing and locking up of its own people and also the current slow subjugation of Hong Kong. The young people of Hong Kong have shown their opinion of Communist China, as did the students who were murdered in their thousands in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. Communist states always end up as one party states with a rich ruling elite and an end to free speech for the masses !!


Can't argue with that first paragraph Sid. Well put. And how I empathise with the young people of Hong Kong! I hope they prevail, although I have my doubts.

Tuffers, Max, etc.

Perhaps you and others of a similar mindset should all go and take a Christmas trip to the Chinese Uighur Concentration camps to express your opinions on the glory's and joys of Communism and also of course give a few speeches praising ''freedom of speech' in China !! If you manage to get away unscathed to continue on your journey of the ''Joys of socialism'' then go to Hong Kong to give your opinions to the students and many others who are fighting to escape from the grasp of Communist China, people who would like nothing better than to be under the old rule of the ( hated by you ) United Kingdom. Last stop could be North Korea, but dont say too much there otherwise it may be a one way trip !! Of course non of you would DARE to do such a thing, just keep barking your nonsense while you stay safely in the places where you say you dislike being so much.
All Billy big talk and no action !
[/quote]

Comrade Gammon

You are seriously confused if you believe I am a supporter of Chinese or North Korean communism.
[/quote]

Gammon and Pineapple........nice, especially with a good wine chilled by ''Snowflakes''

[Sid Bishop]

quote=tuffers#1 post_id=69458 time=1575453667 user_id=86]


Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

So of course you turn a BLIND EYE to the torturing and locking up of its own people and also the current slow subjugation of Hong Kong. The young people of Hong Kong have shown their opinion of Communist China, as did the students who were murdered in their thousands in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. Communist states always end up as one party states with a rich ruling elite and an end to free speech for the masses !!


Can't argue with that first paragraph Sid. Well put. And how I empathise with the young people of Hong Kong! I hope they prevail, although I have my doubts.

Tuffers, Max, etc.

Perhaps you and others of a similar mindset should all go and take a Christmas trip to the Chinese Uighur Concentration camps to express your opinions on the glory's and joys of Communism and also of course give a few speeches praising ''freedom of speech' in China !! If you manage to get away unscathed to continue on your journey of the ''Joys of socialism'' then go to Hong Kong to give your opinions to the students and many others who are fighting to escape from the grasp of Communist China, people who would like nothing better than to be under the old rule of the ( hated by you ) United Kingdom. Last stop could be North Korea, but dont say too much there otherwise it may be a one way trip !! Of course non of you would DARE to do such a thing, just keep barking your nonsense while you stay safely in the places where you say you dislike being so much.
All Billy big talk and no action !
[/quote]

Comrade Gammon

You are seriously confused if you believe I am a supporter of Chinese or North Korean communism.
[/quote]

Yes Max, far better and safer to just leave your Utopian theory of the joys of Communism to your vivid imagination ! Just keep safe and snug in a Capitalist Country as with your outspoken views and love of freedom of speech, would not go down too well if you gave opinions other than the strict party line.

[Max B Gold]

quote=tuffers#1 post_id=69458 time=1575453667 user_id=86]


Im so happy you brought up China.

Now has more Billionaires than the U.S.A .
Incredible when you think about it.

The plan hasalways been to show that 1 party communism will outlast multiple
party Capitalismn in the world.

So of course you turn a BLIND EYE to the torturing and locking up of its own people and also the current slow subjugation of Hong Kong. The young people of Hong Kong have shown their opinion of Communist China, as did the students who were murdered in their thousands in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. Communist states always end up as one party states with a rich ruling elite and an end to free speech for the masses !!


Can't argue with that first paragraph Sid. Well put. And how I empathise with the young people of Hong Kong! I hope they prevail, although I have my doubts.

Tuffers, Max, etc.

Perhaps you and others of a similar mindset should all go and take a Christmas trip to the Chinese Uighur Concentration camps to express your opinions on the glory's and joys of Communism and also of course give a few speeches praising ''freedom of speech' in China !! If you manage to get away unscathed to continue on your journey of the ''Joys of socialism'' then go to Hong Kong to give your opinions to the students and many others who are fighting to escape from the grasp of Communist China, people who would like nothing better than to be under the old rule of the ( hated by you ) United Kingdom. Last stop could be North Korea, but dont say too much there otherwise it may be a one way trip !! Of course non of you would DARE to do such a thing, just keep barking your nonsense while you stay safely in the places where you say you dislike being so much.
All Billy big talk and no action !

Comrade Gammon

You are seriously confused if you believe I am a supporter of Chinese or North Korean communism.
[/quote]

Yes Max, far better and safer to just leave your Utopian theory of the joys of Communism to your vivid imagination ! Just keep safe and snug in a Capitalist Country as with your outspoken views and love of freedom of speech, would not go down too well if you gave opinions other than the strict party line.
[/quote]

Ok will do.

[E10EU]

Is this still about Sunday's Marr programme when Johnson showed himself up as being incapable of being part of a civilised serious interview, namely the sort of thing that should give the public a clearer understanding of the candidate's credentials for the job of PM?

Johnson failed spectacularly in convincing the public that the country would be in safe hands under his leadership and that's even though Marr is considered to be an easier interviewer than Andrew Neil.

[tuffers#1]

The typical response from the Snowflake GAMMONS

Well if you dont lije ut why dont yoo go ..........


Why , the Sh*t still happens hear Sid .
Id be mad to waste an air fare

[tuffers#1]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opende ... nd-abroad/


Under the scrutinous eye yet again !!