Tory / US NHS Sell Off
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Tory / US NHS Sell Off
Appears JC has an un-redacted copy detailing trade talks between the Tories and the US. Unsurprisingly, it would seem the NHS was / is on the table.....
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Re: Tory / US NHS Sell Off
Boris has been running around promising the NHS is not for sale.
He'll now say these are just trade agreements between the NHS and the US, they're not actually selling the NHS.
Thickies will believe it.
Can you imagine if we had a proper media who actually went after the tories on things like this, rather than the angle of Corbyn's glasses.
He'll now say these are just trade agreements between the NHS and the US, they're not actually selling the NHS.
Thickies will believe it.
Can you imagine if we had a proper media who actually went after the tories on things like this, rather than the angle of Corbyn's glasses.
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Re: Tory / US NHS Sell Off
To quote Laura in more detail from the BBC website
This is all going to be furiously disputed through the day, no question - we're trying to get a link to the full documents so you can have a proper look.
It's important, though, that Jeremy Corbyn doesn't provide evidence that ministers have agreed that the health service should be part of a trade deal with US.
But details of discussions about the demands of US pharmaceutical companies will still be motivating for Labour voters worried about the NHS.
"Not for sale" has been biggest mantra at Labour events, even though the Tories have always furiously denied that the NHS is in any way "up for sale".
It's clear that US drug firms want access to UK markets - Labour suggests the UK has agreed they could extend patents of some medicines which could cost NHS more, for example.
There's a big political question about whether any UK government would ever do a deal that made medicines much more expensive for the NHS, and therefore the taxpayer - this would be massively costly for the government and likely deeply unpopular.
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So if the UK ministers' "Red line" in the talks is that the Health Service should NOT be any part of a Trade Deal, and the USA "Red Line" in that it should, then that would mean there'll be no trade deal.
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Re: Tory / US NHS Sell Off
Apparently those glasses are designed for people who have suffered a stroke. There was media reports some months ago that he’d had one, but denied it.RedO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:55 am Boris has been running around promising the NHS is not for sale.
He'll now say these are just trade agreements between the NHS and the US, they're not actually selling the NHS.
Thickies will believe it.
Can you imagine if we had a proper media who actually went after the tories on things like this, rather than the angle of Corbyn's glasses.
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So Corbyn's big reveal is an old 451 page document that mentions the NHS 4 times and does not say the NHS is up for sale
Nor were any of the meetings in these notes held under Boris
Nor were any of the meetings in these notes held under Boris
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Re: Tory / US NHS Sell Off
I wonder whether the foreign secretary at the time was involved in any of the meetings.
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Re: Tory / US NHS Sell Off
Constantine wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:54 pmI wonder whether the foreign secretary at the time was involved in any of the meetings.
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The important thing is what this document doesn't say. It doesn't say the NHS or food standards aren't on the table........
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Why not read the documents to find out.Constantine wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:54 pmI wonder whether the foreign secretary at the time was involved in any of the meetings.
They are easily available, but why the Foreign Secretary would be involved in trade talks between officials not ministers is a strange one
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It doesn’t say the EFL will not be under control of the USA. Now I’m worried. Nor does it say the BBC will not be taken over by Fox News. Bloody hell. Not does it say football won’t be played with a round ball. Catastrophic. Wonder what else it doesn’t say that we should worry about!Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:27 pmThe important thing is what this document doesn't say. It doesn't say the NHS or food standards aren't on the table........
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I would try to explain the significance of this to you but have decided to just conclude that you're a non-entity and a f*cking half-wit.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:10 pmIt doesn’t say the EFL will not be under control of the USA. Now I’m worried. Nor does it say the BBC will not be taken over by Fox News. Bloody hell. Not does it say football won’t be played with a round ball. Catastrophic. Wonder what else it doesn’t say that we should worry about!Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:27 pmThe important thing is what this document doesn't say. It doesn't say the NHS or food standards aren't on the table........
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Well done. I’ve already concluded the same about board moderators. Makes us equal.Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:29 pmI would try to explain the significance of this to you but have decided to just conclude that you're a non-entity and a f*cking half-wit.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:10 pmIt doesn’t say the EFL will not be under control of the USA. Now I’m worried. Nor does it say the BBC will not be taken over by Fox News. Bloody hell. Not does it say football won’t be played with a round ball. Catastrophic. Wonder what else it doesn’t say that we should worry about!Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:27 pm
The important thing is what this document doesn't say. It doesn't say the NHS or food standards aren't on the table........
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He's just angry cos they've turned down his application to go on the apprentice every year.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:31 pm For a supposed boardroom bellend, he is showing his naivety here.
Maffy always becomes more insufferable between now and xmas cos Lord Sugar's on the telly. It's just bitterness as seeing real business contenders fight it out in front of his hero, Claude Littner.
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At least Andrew Neil hasn't had his interview with Johnson yet, I'm sure he'll get to the bottom of this NHS sell-off issue.
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Ok Boomer.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:34 pmWell done. I’ve already concluded the same about board moderators. Makes us equal.Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:29 pmI would try to explain the significance of this to you but have decided to just conclude that you're a non-entity and a f*cking half-wit.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:10 pm
It doesn’t say the EFL will not be under control of the USA. Now I’m worried. Nor does it say the BBC will not be taken over by Fox News. Bloody hell. Not does it say football won’t be played with a round ball. Catastrophic. Wonder what else it doesn’t say that we should worry about!
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Ain't happening pal. Bojo's people won't put him on and AN aint brave enough to empty chair him.
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I’m looking forward to it. Hope he gives Boris a rough ride and brings up this NHS issue. Given my utter disrespect for both leaders I shall be quite pleased to see Boris squirm the same way Corbyn did.
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Re: Tory / US NHS Sell Off
No problem chips.Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:36 pmOk Boomer.dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:34 pmWell done. I’ve already concluded the same about board moderators. Makes us equal.Father Ted Crilly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:29 pm
I would try to explain the significance of this to you but have decided to just conclude that you're a non-entity and a f*cking half-wit.
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Re: Tory / US NHS Sell Off
Bottlejob Boris wont agree to one.