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Dianne abbot, campaigns against private education but sends her kids to private school, and corbyn who likewise states that it is terrible that council housing is sold off at a discount under the right to buy , and is opposed to people letting out said premises via air b and b, is quite happy that his son, who he wangled into the position of a parliamentary adviser, to take advantage of both. Hypocrites.
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Redcard wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:40 pm Dianne abbot, campaigns against private education but sends her kids to private school, and corbyn who likewise states that it is terrible that council housing is sold off at a discount under the right to buy , and is opposed to people letting out said premises via air b and b, is quite happy that his son, who he wangled into the position of a parliamentary adviser, to take advantage of both. Hypocrites.
How do you know about the latter, haven’t heard that, The Abbott hypocrisy is well know .
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So Abbott is behind removing the charitable status of these places, even though it will increase the fees she has to pay.

Talk about principled. You wouldn't see a tory supporting a policy that negatively impacted on them.
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I still think the greatest political hypocricy out there is "One Nation Conservatism".

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Dohnut, article in daily express. Redo, come on get real, can’t you see the Forrest for the trees.
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Redcard wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:40 pm Dianne abbot, campaigns against private education but sends her kids to private school, and corbyn who likewise states that it is terrible that council housing is sold off at a discount under the right to buy , and is opposed to people letting out said premises via air b and b, is quite happy that his son, who he wangled into the position of a parliamentary adviser, to take advantage of both. Hypocrites.

Are these the biggest problems you see as confronting this country???
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E10, not at all, the biggest danger confronting this country is the prospect of a government led by a traitorous anti Semite Marxist. Exposing his hypocrisy is a side show.
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Redcard wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:23 pm E10, not at all, the biggest danger confronting this country is the prospect of a government led by a traitorous anti Semite Marxist. Exposing his hypocrisy is a side show.

Sorry, mate, can't agree with you. My politics are more concerned with the real lives of 60 million people, the vast majority of whom don't even get paid what is deemed the 'average wage', something in the £30 thousand per year.
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Tell that to the starving hundreds Of millions who have to survive on a few pounds a week.
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E10EU wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:36 pm
Redcard wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:23 pm E10, not at all, the biggest danger confronting this country is the prospect of a government led by a traitorous anti Semite Marxist. Exposing his hypocrisy is a side show.

Sorry, mate, can't agree with you. My politics are more concerned with the real lives of 60 million people, the vast majority of whom don't even get paid what is deemed the 'average wage', something in the £30 thousands per year.
So your needs will be met far more by the hypocrisy of people promising to do something yet do something else. Theres a sort of contradiction in there somewhere.
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Redcard wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:23 pm E10, not at all, the biggest danger confronting this country is the prospect of a government led by a traitorous anti Semite Marxist. Exposing his hypocrisy is a side show.
You left out commie and IRA loving for the clean sweep.
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I thought Marxist covered the commie bit, but you are right he is indeed an I.r.a supporting piece of sh*t.
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Abbott used to support the IRA as well back in the day and her explanation now is “we all move on” shocking.

Interestingly she has not been seen or heard of during the election, I wonder why that is? Curious as to the answer on that one.
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If the people being villified and others had not convinced the IRA that there was a political way forward we would still have bombs going off all over the place, this included Tory politicians as well by the way.

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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:45 am Abbott used to support the IRA as well back in the day and her explanation now is “we all move on” shocking.

Interestingly she has not been seen or heard of during the election, I wonder why that is? Curious as to the answer on that one.
Willie Whitelaw got Gerry Adams out of Jail in 1972 .

You know that William Whitelaw who became Maggies No1 fan.

Story party voters seem to be very slow in accepting that they moved on .
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RedO wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:41 pm
Redcard wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:23 pm E10, not at all, the biggest danger confronting this country is the prospect of a government led by a traitorous anti Semite Marxist. Exposing his hypocrisy is a side show.
You left out commie and IRA loving for the clean sweep.
How many times do i have to tell you .

The IRA was a Liberal movement small L

Th3 provies were Marxist & the INLA split to be more leninist in there views.

Get your Russian thinkers & freedom fighters/ revolutionarys sorted out !!
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:45 am
Interestingly she has not been seen or heard of during the election, I wonder why that is? Curious as to the answer on that one.
Actually, Abbott was speaking at Labour’s Race & Faith event yesterday, but I guess she said nothing for the arsewipe papers to laugh at, and the news cycle was more interested in other things.
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slacker wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:34 am
Thor wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:45 am
Interestingly she has not been seen or heard of during the election, I wonder why that is? Curious as to the answer on that one.
Actually, Abbott was speaking at Labour’s Race & Faith event yesterday, but I guess she said nothing for the arsewipe papers to laugh at, and the news cycle was more interested in other things.
Oh, you and your facts.
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:45 am Abbott used to support the IRA as well back in the day and her explanation now is “we all move on” shocking.

Interestingly she has not been seen or heard of during the election, I wonder why that is? Curious as to the answer on that one.
She is hiding in a cupboard with Moggy. Boggles the mind.
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Now this is not my writing I've picked it up off twitter interested in peoples thoughts on this.

Labour the party that

Created the bedroom tax
Life about Iraq
Sold a hospital to the private sector
Didn't build any houses
Closed 252 mines
Didn't bother to read the Lisbon treaty
Introduced disability assessments
Created zero hour contracts
Created a generation of dependency
Signed over 100 PFI contracts
Introduced tuition fees

Pretty damming all of the above is it not?
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Thor wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:43 pm Now this is not my writing I've picked it up off twitter interested in peoples thoughts on this.

Labour the party that

Created the bedroom tax - in principle but it took a callous Tory govt to bring it into practice (Labour voted against it's introduction)
Life about Iraq - bang to rights except the current leader was a vocal opponent
Sold a hospital to the private sector - presume they are referring to Hinchingbrooke Hospital which was privatised under Labour (though if you want to be a pendant the contract was signed six months into the Cameron Govt). Worth noting that it took 5 years of mismanagement before the Tory government brought it back into the NHS
Didn't build any houses - stupid phrase but to answer it Housing Associations not Councils build houses and they have continued to build under Blair and the Tories. Best not to mention starter homes though - https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/180 ... s-failure/
Closed 252 mines - in the 1960's under Wilson, closing unaffordable/spent mines is different to a political act of terrorism whereby miners are labelled "enemy of the people"
Didn't bother to read the Lisbon treaty - relates to Caroline Flint, Minister for Europe in 2009 and now a Brexiteer (quelle surprise
Introduced disability assessments - True for new claimants but it was the Tories who amended the regulations and in 2011 making all recipients of Incapacity Benefit and all disabled people on Income Support take the assessment
Created zero hour contracts - Sure, Presume so as they've been around for a while. However, I raise your zero hour contract with the National Minimum Wage legislation brought in under Labour
Created a generation of dependency - try and fact check this crappy phrase, I presume couldn't find examples of Labour locking up children
Signed over 100 PFI contracts - the first one was signed under Major but what the hell, I presume Labour went big on them
Introduced tuition fees - Sure did (£3k per annum), my daughter will incur £9.5k of debt this year.

Pretty damming all of the above is it not? - not really, most of it was Blair opening the stable door that the post-2010 Tories dashed through. On the Labour side none of the culprits are still in the shadow cabinet
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I’m a natural Labour voter, have voted Labour in every election until 2010 (when I didn’t think they deserved to be re-elected), but my votes have gone to UKIP/ Brexit Party in the last few elections of various sorts, as I consider it a higher priority to get back to running our own country, and then sort out which flavour of government we want.

But I couldn’t vote for the current Labour Party, too much hypocrisy as the title says, too many pie in the sky aims which I doubt can be properly funded, and too many nasty elements within the movement, albeit a small minority I'm sure, and they need sorting out. Will be interesting to see where it heads to after this election and (what I expect to be) a defeat, I wouldn’t rule out voting Labour again if it becomes more like the party I used to support.
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Nice reply Jamespevans, it’s certainly interesting how these games are played out. Labour started this, the Tory’s ran with it and vica versa.

Interesting comments by EDO as well and decent insight as to a true labour supporters feelings.
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EastDerehamO wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:11 pm I’m a natural Labour voter, have voted Labour in every election until 2010 (when I didn’t think they deserved to be re-elected), but my votes have gone to UKIP/ Brexit Party in the last few elections of various sorts, as I consider it a higher priority to get back to running our own country, and then sort out which flavour of government we want.

But I couldn’t vote for the current Labour Party, too much hypocrisy as the title says, too many pie in the sky aims which I doubt can be properly funded, and too many nasty elements within the movement, albeit a small minority I'm sure, and they need sorting out. Will be interesting to see where it heads to after this election and (what I expect to be) a defeat, I wouldn’t rule out voting Labour again if it becomes more like the party I used to support.
"get back to running our own country" - what does that actually mean?
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EastDerehamO wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:11 pm I’m a natural Labour voter, have voted Labour in every election until 2010 (when I didn’t think they deserved to be re-elected), but my votes have gone to UKIP/ Brexit Party in the last few elections of various sorts, as I consider it a higher priority to get back to running our own country, and then sort out which flavour of government we want.

But I couldn’t vote for the current Labour Party, too much hypocrisy as the title says, too many pie in the sky aims which I doubt can be properly funded, and too many nasty elements within the movement, albeit a small minority I'm sure, and they need sorting out. Will be interesting to see where it heads to after this election and (what I expect to be) a defeat, I wouldn’t rule out voting Labour again if it becomes more like the party I used to support.
I think many of us feel exactly the same way.

My background is very much Labour and apart from a short rebellious period where I went Liberal (Tories being a step too far) Labour are my roots, though in later life I did vote for Thatcher because of what was wrong at the time, before switching to New Labour. Part of the landslide Labour win.

But you have described correctly the current Labour Party. A real shame. Whilst Corbyn is in charges (Milliband too for that matter) I cannot bring myself to vote Labour again. Even if that benefits that d’head Johnson.
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