The Labour Manifesto

[Article_50]

Grimms' Fairy Tales must be more believable than Labour's Manifesto

Voters like you get what you deserve - the Trumpesque lying donkeys like Johnson, IBS and Rees-Mug.

Disoriented, every sixty seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you’ll never get back, and by the way, you're wrong to assume that I'm a Tory

[Thor]

I can put you in touch with a paRty that tells the truth if you like

Yeah nut a party that is quite clear about how it feels about people of a Jewish background, at least they tell the truth about them a Redo. Disgraceful.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I can put you in touch with a paRty that tells the truth if you like

Yeah nut a party that is quite clear about how it feels about people of a Jewish background, at least they tell the truth about them a Redo. Disgraceful.

Have you made your mind up who to vote for yet? Sounds like you’re getting closer after posting this bullshit.

[Thor]

Nope not yet awaiting on all manifestos before deciding. I was thinking about this very matter this morning and I was leaning towards not voting and being a protest vote.

[greyhound]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uproar-time-d ... 04499.html
proves Boris won the debate.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Can someone explain exactly what free broadband means. Not the headline but the reality. Corbyn said it will save famines over £30 a month I think.

[greyhound]

Can someone explain exactly what free broadband means. Not the headline but the reality. Corbyn said it will save famines over £30 a month I think.

reality D he is talking a load of bull.
the only thing to come out of that pledge is job losses for sure.

[Disoriented]

Grimms' Fairy Tales must be more believable than Labour's Manifesto

Voters like you get what you deserve - the Trumpesque lying donkeys like Johnson, IBS and Rees-Mug.

Disoriented, every sixty seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you’ll never get back, and by the way, you're wrong to assume that I'm a Tory

I have no interest in what you are. Your comment is way out of line.

[Still's Carenae]

Gonna need some big ferries to transport all their properties and businesses down to Monaco.

No - just a bank transfer and loan.

So they won't be taking all their property and businesses out of the country?

No just there money. The business side they will fill up with debt to keep profits as low as possible. Large loan on property.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Can someone explain exactly what free broadband means. Not the headline but the reality. Corbyn said it will save famines over £30 a month I think.

reality D he is talking a load of bull.
the only thing to come out of that pledge is job losses for sure.

When this was first raised I assumed it was just the line, Openreach. That part of the internet would be free but the ISP’s like Talktalk etc would still charge. Not free internet, deception really, but good politics. Guessed some staff losses at Virgin and Sky when a few people migrated and new business shrank.

Need to check but I thought Corbyn mentioned £30. Maybe wrong. But that cannot be the case as the line cost part of the internet is circa £12. Even the that includes the telephone so how does that fall into the equation. Corbyn cannot be buying out Vodaphone, Talktalk etc so what exactly is the free internet, it won’t be, just cheaper.

So what the hell is free internet

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uproar-time-d ... 04499.html
proves Boris won the debate.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

No - just a bank transfer and loan.

So they won't be taking all their property and businesses out of the country?

No just there money. The business side they will fill up with debt to keep profits as low as possible. Large loan on property.

You what? I have no idea what you’re talking about with loans on properties?

The debt thing already happens in lots of businesses - Thames Water, as a prime example - whereby profits are eaten up by interest repayments to offshore entities.

But not under Corbyn, they won’t be.

[Thor]

That’s right redo cos there won’t be any profits just debt and more debt.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

That’s right redo cos there won’t be any profits just debt and more debt.

So have you made your mind up yet?

[Article_50]

Voters like you get what you deserve - the Trumpesque lying donkeys like Johnson, IBS and Rees-Mug.

Disoriented, every sixty seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you’ll never get back, and by the way, you're wrong to assume that I'm a Tory

I have no interest in what you are. Your comment is way out of line.

Well, aren’t you just a shiny little hypocrite polished in bullsh1t!

[Thor]

That’s right redo cos there won’t be any profits just debt and more debt.

So have you made your mind up yet?

I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer provided earlier.

[Still's Carenae]

So they won't be taking all their property and businesses out of the country?

No just there money. The business side they will fill up with debt to keep profits as low as possible. Large loan on property.

You what? I have no idea what you’re talking about with loans on properties?

The debt thing already happens in lots of businesses - Thames Water, as a prime example - whereby profits are eaten up by interest repayments to offshore entities.

But not under Corbyn, they won’t be.

This is just borrowing against your assets, principally so that they have no nominal value. So your wealth in the UK is nominal, but your cash is nice and safe abroad. Now there is no money to tax.

Corbyn, would have to be very quick, or indeed in government now. As everything will already be organised. Come the 13th December, if Corbyn wins, they are one button away from completing the transaction.

[Still's Carenae]

Just a thought. Our current interest payments on debt are higher than what we spend on defence. This is currently just over £40bn a year. Both sides want to borrow more.

It is like you buying a house and keep expanding and updating as your income increases, with borrowing. Until suddenly your income decreases, you start to struggle to pay the bills, your interest on future loans is much higher. This will happen within the next couple of years and you cannot expand your monetary policy because you have used your ammunition.

A recession will really bring this into focus.

[Disoriented]

Disoriented, every sixty seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you’ll never get back, and by the way, you're wrong to assume that I'm a Tory

I have no interest in what you are. Your comment is way out of line.

Well, aren’t you just a shiny little hypocrite polished in bullsh1t!

As stated, I couldn’t care less if you are a Tory or not. Perhaps your definition of ‘hypocrite’ needs work too.

[Max B Gold]

Just a thought. Our current interest payments on debt are higher than what we spend on defence. This is currently just over £40bn a year. Both sides want to borrow more.

It is like you buying a house and keep expanding and updating as your income increases, with borrowing. Until suddenly your income decreases, you start to struggle to pay the bills, your interest on future loans is much higher. This will happen within the next couple of years and you cannot expand your monetary policy because you have used your ammunition.

A recession will really bring this into focus.

Except of course there is no valid comparison to be made between the economy and a domestic mortgage.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Just a thought. Our current interest payments on debt are higher than what we spend on defence. This is currently just over £40bn a year. Both sides want to borrow more.

It is like you buying a house and keep expanding and updating as your income increases, with borrowing. Until suddenly your income decreases, you start to struggle to pay the bills, your interest on future loans is much higher. This will happen within the next couple of years and you cannot expand your monetary policy because you have used your ammunition.

A recession will really bring this into focus.

Except of course there is no valid comparison to be made between the economy and a domestic mortgage.

Except in both cases you pay interest and the loans need to be paid back by future generations probably

[Eat The Rich]

Its extraordinary in the ven diagram of political views that those who make the most noise about leaving future generations saddled with financial obligations (i.e - government debt) are the same ones who support policies that leave ordinary people saddled with mountains of private debt and environmental debts that are quite literally existential. Go figure.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

No just there money. The business side they will fill up with debt to keep profits as low as possible. Large loan on property.

You what? I have no idea what you’re talking about with loans on properties?

The debt thing already happens in lots of businesses - Thames Water, as a prime example - whereby profits are eaten up by interest repayments to offshore entities.

But not under Corbyn, they won’t be.

This is just borrowing against your assets, principally so that they have no nominal value. So your wealth in the UK is nominal, but your cash is nice and safe abroad. Now there is no money to tax.

Corbyn, would have to be very quick, or indeed in government now. As everything will already be organised. Come the 13th December, if Corbyn wins, they are one button away from completing the transaction.

You what?

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Its extraordinary in the ven diagram of political views that those who make the most noise about leaving future generations saddled with financial obligations (i.e - government debt) are the same ones who support policies that leave ordinary people saddled with mountains of private debt and environmental debts that are quite literally existential. Go figure.

That is a valid point. The answer has to be a balanced approach with plan for growth in the economy. I guess you believe we should only focus on the hear and now and let future generations deal with the debt.

Borrowing happens, it needs to be sensible until we have a strong economy that provides a surplus.

The interest we are paying back now could be better spent helping people now. We are indeed paying the price for past levels of borrowing, right now.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

But it wouldn’t be spent elsewhere. They’d persist with tax cuts for the richest.

The economy has been choked, all in the name of ‘austerity’. Meanwhile the richest have got richer, doubling their wealth in this period, so it’s not all bad.